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How is it that this can happen when some quarters call PAS Taliban?

According to P Uthayakumar’s latest statement:

“—our Hindu temple (Sri Maha Mariamman) stands right up to this day on the very main road leading into Tumpat town.  I nostalgically showed my wife and children the Hindu temple which I grew up with. It is still the history and heritage of Kelantan right up to this date.

This our Hindu temple could now be demolished or asked to be relocated as it is in a 99.99% Malay Muslim area or to be moved out of the state of Kelantan as it is in a “Serambi Mekah” State.

I believe it would not even have crossed PAS’ Kelantan Menteri Besar Nik Aziz’s mind.

This is religious co-existence in practice in 99% Malay Muslim PAS ruled Kelantan.

longest buddha

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The biggest sleeping Buddha in the world is not in Thailand, Cambodia Sri Lanka or India where Buddhism originated from but it is in Kg. Neting, Tumpat Kelantan.

In multi racial and multi religious Malaysia it should be religious coexistence as opposed to religious tolerance.

Then we wont get the case of the UMNO majority and dominant area like in Section 19 and 22 of Shah Alam objecting to hindu temple because it is a Malay Muslim dominated area and the cow head protest by the religious extremist who were never arrested on sight and who would never be seriously prosecuted by the Attorney General in Prime Minister Najib Razak’s One Malaysia.

Read the rest of his story HERE.

Shouldn’t UMNO feel ashamed of themselves?

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105 responses »

  1. blink4blog says:

    not only ashame, should apology to the people of Malaysia for their 50 years of foolishness and arrogant.

  2. rainstorm says:

    UMNO will not be ashamed of themselves as they think is their “birth right” to do what they want as they can’t differenciate anymore what is right and what is wrong. Their arrogant actions would lead to their downfall one day.

    Indeed they’ve a lot to learn from PAS government in Kelantan as PAS government is fair to the Chinese & Indians eventhough they’re only constitute less than 6% of the total state population.

  3. boing says:

    SA50 cowheads got kok stand from cowdung head krismuding cousin of najis. Now the umno kris is penetrating them.

  4. monsterball says:

    That Buddha statue is in a Chinese temple in Penang….correct?

  5. sloone says:

    Monsterball;

    I visited this Sleeping Buddha in Kelantan with my parents and aunties. It’s really awesome! Lots of visitors too. Large area, very peaceful.

  6. ktteokt says:

    I believe every religion teaches followers to be good, kind and polite! It is those people with bad intentions who bend such teachings and become arrogant as seen in these cow-head demonstrators!

    Do you find Chinese carrying the heads of khinzir to the mosque to protest? I am sure if they do so, they will be immediately arrested and put under ISA! So why is this group of nuts who carried the cow head for demonstration spared this DRACONIAN law? Or is it because “birds of a feather flock together”?

  7. monsterball says:

    Susan…Thank you for the information.

  8. monsterball says:

    There is no doubt Kelantan practices religious tolerance sincerely.
    More and more Malays are supporting PAS and keDAILan.
    One more UMNO parliamentarian died in Penang yesterday. May his soul rest in peace.
    This means by-election No.9 coming soon.
    Won by UMNO in 12th GE…lets see what will be the forth coming by-election result.

  9. navvies says:

    Others are going to Negeri Sembilan.

  10. najibmustdie says:

    “Do you find Chinese carrying the heads of khinzir to the mosque to protest?” – ktteokt

    UMNO has time for that kind of nonsense.

    http://justkhai.com/blog/kisah-pas-dan-kepala-babi/

  11. najibmustdie says:

    Kisah PAS dan Kepala Babi

    Hishamuddin smokes ganja or is on ecstasy pills…..it is not an UMNO flag

  12. enama says:

    `Others are going to Negeri Sembilan`
    navvies

    In the last GE12, Haji Ramli of PAS were leading by 1000 votes before postal vote came in and swipe away the majority from 1000 to PAS to 2333 to UmnoBN. There are around 5000 votes in this area, out of 12,000. In Bagan Pinang, even if Umno put a prostitute, they will win. But we will not give up. How would bloggers help in penetrating into army camp? Please help.

    http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/pilihanraya-kecil-bagan-pinang-rakyat-lwn-barisan-neraka/

  13. monsterball says:

    By-election in Negri Sembilan..not worth it.
    UMNO won by huge majority in the past…..maybe vote buying…but PR should not contest and save money….since chance is slim.
    PR win also no use…UMNO control the State.
    Do that in the bigger stage….liKe 13th GE.

  14. zane says:

    No, I say let’s fight on. Don’t be like BN who was coward when faced with lose. Remember Kuala Terengganu? BN ruled during the 12th GE but when the representative died, PAS grabbed it back. Thanks to the bloggers including RPK and his wife who were there for weeks, campaigning the Chinese!

    It was the bloggers that helped soooo much in each by election that ensured astounding victory to PR!

    Bravo to all the bloggers!

  15. wan says:

    Zana you are right. Fight them, even if there is a loss let the majority be reduced. Md Isa who was suspended still has much support and a big axe to grind. The devil is within umno. Destroy Najib.
    LAWAN TETAP LAWAN. PR are not cowards, even if BN are thugs, hypocrites, liars, scoundrels and murderers.

  16. no more h1n1 says:

    will everybody please pray for the world to be free of h1n1

  17. patahtulangdia says:

    Mampus pondan –

    NGOs still want Hisham to quit over cowhead fiasco

    http://www.mysinchew.com/node/28966

    “A home minister by portfolio and a lawyer by training, Hishammuddin has brought both his office and profession to unprecedented shame with his disregard for the law. Because he has turned the minister of law and order into the minister against law and order, he must resign or be sacked.”

    http://www.mysinchew.com/node/28966

  18. Menyalak-er says:

    What has AH1N1 gotta do with this Buddha Statue? Please lah go get a life! If you are afraid of a teeny, weeny invisible bug, go look at the whatever makes you grimace/smile, whatever… what is your religion, if any?
    Hi Zane and wan, a round of drinks (alcholic or non, done deal) from me. Yep, go down or up fighting (or barking, in my case)!

  19. Laugoo says:

    In Kelantan, you will find not only the Sleeping Buddha but also the Sitting Buddha, The Standing Buddha, the Dragon Boat Buddha and a host of others all built on large tracts of land allocated by the state. Apart from these there are also dozens of Taoist temples all over Kelantan.

  20. sembilan says:

    More than 20 years ago, I visited that Reclining Buddha in Kelantan when I journeyed from KL to Penang via the East-West Highway. I remembered my first remark in astonishment ‘ what? they have it here in KELANTAN too?’

  21. Subramanian says:

    When will come a time for Malaysians to truely claim as Bangsa
    Malaysia ? As long as this is not happening then there will be many more display of incidents of religious intolerance in Malaysia.Our youths
    are being exposed to religious intolerance.How Can you expect them to become examplary citizens of the world ?Our political leaders other than PR are playing a dirty game of divide and rule.To them,the future of the country is not important,self preservation is their main concern.

  22. navvies says:

    “When will come a time for Malaysians to truely claim as Bangsa
    Malaysia ?”

    NEVER

  23. navvies says:

    Najib: Muslims must not insult other religions

    One can never trust them when they are indulging in taqiya……….

    MARAN, Sept 4 — Muslims were reminded to avoid condemning or insulting other religions and the followers with their actions, but instead follow true Islamic teachings by respecting other religions.
    [In 2004, he said no one should question the right of muslims to slander non muslims]

    Sep 4, 09 – As far as Selangor opposition leader Mohd Khir Toyo is concerned, the controversy surrounding the cow-head protest in Shah Alam last week is just a big misunderstanding over a ‘stupid’ animal.

  24. remix says:

    Curry toyol must have gone stupid eating too much beef then.

  25. remix says:

    In fact he got so stupid (mad cow disease?) that he lost the whole Selangor state.

  26. wits0 says:

    “..just a big misunderstanding over a ’stupid’ animal.”

    There is no misunderstanding. If animals are(regarded as) stupid, humans certainly are not. The problem is the designed failure to accord respect to your peers but instead elevate yourselves above others. And then dress it up in double speak.

  27. vellupillai says:

    But what Raja Petra complains of is true. Non-Malays living in the vicinity of mosques in Kuala Lumpur hear this call to arms against the non-Muslims through high-pitches megaphones often enough to be dismissed as untrue. I suspect Dr Yusof is annoyed a Muslim has spilled the beans; if a non-Muslim had done so, he could be ignored. Perhaps Dr Yusof should also tell us if Christmas carols mentioning Jesus should be banned at a Christmas party organised by the government. Was there a ban? Of course there was. Father OC Lim, who questioned it, is too senior in the Roman Catholic Church, and not a high Muslim cleric, to shoot his mouth off. The minister had to step in to defuse it, and insist it was only a suggestion. But that only proves what Raja Petra said. This fracas is another example of Islamic extremism.

    The political reaction is even more bizarre. “We will investigate who is responsible for this website, and action will be taken as we cannot allow such websites to sow seeds of hatred among the people of different races and religions.” So says Dato’ Seri Najib. The import of what he says is more frightening: the people cannot, but the muftis and Islamic religious can sow religious hatred.

    -MggPillai [2004]

  28. vellupillai says:

    THE MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT BARRED, cavalierly, any mention of Jesus Christ in carols sung at a christmas party it would host. When a Roman Catholic priest objected, in public, it was denied, and blamed on an overzealous civil servant. But it would not go away. It happens too often. Zealous Muslim preachers call on Muslims, at Friday prayers, to treat non-Muslims as an underclass beyond redemption. When a Muslim questioned it, he was excoriated for letting the Muslims down.

  29. Menyalak-er says:

    Djinn toyol, djinn toyol, apa jadi pulak?
    Nak kumpulkan kuil-kuil Hindu disesuatu tempat?
    Kenapo begitu? Kau nak jadi iblis dajjal yg perlu disembayahkan?

  30. cathnews says:

    July 14, 2009

    Two Malaysian Catholics have lodged a police report against the Al Islam magazine over an article in which a Muslim journalist took the holy communion at a Kuala Lumpur parish before taking the wafer from his mouth and photographing it.

    The journalist, whose byline in the article was Muhd Ridhwan Abdul Jalil, described the holy communion ritual as “upacara makan roti putih” (“white bread eating ceremony”) and wrote about how he was given the wafer by the priest. The article also carried a photograph of the wafer with a caption that identified it as the wafer that was placed in his mouth.

    Xavier and Stanley in a press statement said they were “outraged that these Muslim men consumed it (the communion) only to spit it out later, have it photographed, and have its image published.”

    http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=15129

  31. pilocarpine says:

    i dun think this is religious coexistence or religious tolerance.

    by itself, it is the religion. religion. religion that put peace for everyone, above all things.

  32. Samson says:

    Monsterball,

    The sleeping Buddha statue in Penang is located in a Siamese Buddhist temple, the same in Tumpat….

    rgds.

  33. danet7882 says:

    True.. I myself have visited a buddhist temple in Kelantan too..
    I can say it’s pretty awesome too compare to those normal temple in other state..

    I believe there is tour group all over the country that arrangge such a visit.. You can try to contact ur nearest tour agency “monsterball”..

    Is there really a law that minority race can’t build a worship place in the majority race area? Or it is just the UMNO law?? MCA and MIC are really useless.. Can’t even fight for the rights of their peoples..

  34. wits0 says:

    http://niamah.blogspot.com/

    “Khir Toyo. This guy suggested that Hindu and Sikh temples be placed within an “enclave”. You think he might have had a great future during the 3rd Reich?…”

    ………………………………………………………………………………………
    The ancient Minotaur that reincarnated as a Toyol has a Final Solution Lite.

  35. PAS, PR for ALL says:

    This report has just come about the right time, especially after the cow head protest, and the cowhead stompings by the ultras, and you know whom. Our forefathers who were brainwashed since independence by the Perikatan folks, i.e “as non-Muslims, never vote for PAS”. We were definitely very scared of PAS and its Islamic ideology which was not clear, and let us be frank, which they were unable to share with the vast majority of Malayans at that time as we do not have the net and all the modern news media. To the Chinese, Perikatan said, do not vote PAS because of Islam, and to the Malays, they told them, do not vote DAP because it is a Chinese chauvinist party, but over the period of time, and with the advent of the alternative media, things certainly had changed!

    Today, we have an elite group of Malays who dare to openly work with the DAP, and who speaks and canvassed votes actively for the DAP, and we have an equally different breed of Chinese and Indians who openly canvassed and carried the flags of PAS during elections. This certainly augurs well for the rakyat of the country, while the BN continue with their rascists agenda. Little by little by the day, whatever support they have continues to erode.

    Honestly, we cannot continue to be misled by the BN led government, they had misled our grandfathers, our fathers and now certainly, we should wake up and not to allow them to continue to mislead us and our children. There is only one way for us all of us if we continue to blindly support BN i.e DOOM!

    The politician that deserves the respect of all Malaysians irregardless of race or religion is undoubtedly one man, and he is none other than the Tok Guru of Kelantan! A man of substance, he never wavered from his beiefs and stand! He never shirked from his responsibility and is never fickle, or flip flop. He is the model that all PAS politicians should follow and Malaysians will present the Government to PAS.

    But first and foremost, get rid of that Hassan Ali guy, this guy is dangerous and is flirting openly with UMNO. I regretted in voting him in 1999, that made him an MP, but after that, the constituents never saw him again. Because of his poor service record, PAS lost the constituency in the next general election, but took back the seat in 2008. It would be good if Hassan Ali declares himself and independent who is friendy to the BN, rather than sticking to PAS when his heart is hell bent on becoming the Menteri Besar of Selangor. The same applies to Nasharuddin Mat Isa, we do not need you in PR. I was really taken in by his rationale during one of the many “Debat Perdana” and he gave many a false sense of security that it is safe to vote for PAS, but then you can see his true colours after the 2008, political tsunami. The desire to be a Minister, is so irresistible, and the true Nasharuddin showed its colour. Please leave PR and join BN, please! Luckily, we have the Tok Guru with us and who had provened to all Malaysians, that even in a state where the population is 99.9% Malays, racial harmony and religious tolerance is something that PAS is proud to foster and promote and it can exhibit this to the world, unlike the cowhead stompers from UMNO!!!!!!

    Long Live Tok Guru! Hidup Tok Guru, Malaysians of all walks of life, love you. May God bless you with many years of good health and happiness.

  36. milkmaid says:

    Hassan Ali is going to die soon, paving the way for another by-election.

  37. alqaeda says:

    MUSLIMS HATE HINDUS ALL HINDUS MUST CONVERT

    Cow-head meeting descends into chaos
    By Syed Jaymal Zahiid and Neville Spykerman

    SHAH ALAM, Sept 5 — The town hall meeting called today by Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim to hold dialogue over the recent cow-head protest controversy has descended into chaos, with around 300 residents from Section 23 jeering and mocking the ongoing meeting.

    Proceedings barely got off the ground before the protesters started shouting and booing at Khalid, along with Khalid Samad (MP for Shah Alam), and Shah Alam mayor Mazalan Md Noor.

    Despite calls for calm, the ruckus is continuing with the upset residents yelling “Penipu!” (liar!) and “Bodoh!” (stupid!) when the Khalid attempted to address them.

    Tempers are increasingly frayed, with protesters starting to get rowdier, some standing on their chairs while shouting.

    Last Friday, a group of 50 protesters from the Section 23 area in Shah Alam held a demonstration in front of the state secretariat building to protest the planned relocation of the 150-year-old Sri Mahamariamman Temple to Section 23 from Section 19. They brandished a severed head of a cow at the protest.

    The 150-year-old temple was built on a plantation which over the years was developed into housing estates by the Selangor Development Corporation (PKNS). No provisions were made to relocate the temple, which is now in the middle of a Muslim majority area.

    malaysianinsider

  38. wits0 says:

    Not “misunderstanding” involved, simply bad intention as bottom line.

  39. muthupalaniappan says:

    Indians are also not stupid, they can be very patient and then judgement will be delivered.
    Khir Toyo cannot survive for long and will soon be eating raisins up there with his 72 virgins. A by-election is a strong possibility by the end of the year.

  40. alqaeda says:

    HAHAHAHA STUPID PAKATAN RAYAT COWS KALAH

    TEMPLE – MB Khalid says state will also find a solution to finding a new site for Hindu temple.

  41. r.krishnan says:

    Cow-ard muslims,

    TEMPLE – ‘Cow-head’ protesters asking the panellists to bar the media from publishing today’s meeting.

    http://twitter.com/insider_latest

    pengecut melayu takut apa huh?

  42. veryupset says:

    Susan…,

    So, do we now know who’s the one stroking the racism fan…?????

  43. NonaNona says:

    Tok Guru, we really salute you!
    Keep up the good work!

  44. V.S. Naipaul says:

    p. 262

    There were other leaders, with less difficult messages. Missionaries (from Indian and Pakistan) had brought the idol-smashing message to Malaysia. They had worked out, from various books they had consulted, how many thousands of years in paradise a Muslim earned for every idol he smashed; and they had calculated that a grand total of thirty smashed idols won a Muslim the jackpot, an eternity in paradise.

    The Malay rage was really about the Chinese shrines – some no more than concrete boxes – that were everywhere in the towns (there were two just outside the Holiday Inn). But the Chinese were powerful, and had their secret societies. The Tamil Hindus were a small, pacific community. So Hindu images were smashed. On many nights – during a three week period in 1978 – Tamil temples were desecrated.

    Then, at the Kerling temple, there was a tragedy. A group of five idol-smashers (at least two university students among them) were met by eight temple guards. Four of the idol-smashers were killed. Idol-smashing stopped after that. And now – more important than the Temerloh temple case – was the trial of the eight Kerling guards on charges of “culpable homicide not amounting to murder.”

    -NAIPAUL, Among the Believers

  45. NonaNona says:

    The less said about Khir Toyo, the better!
    Let this immoral, dirty, filthy, shameful, despicable moron have a good rest!

  46. r.krishnan says:

    Samy Vellu wants to send “cow” muslims to Tanjong Rambutan

  47. r.krishnan says:

    FLASH – Selangor PAS chief Hassan Ali summoned to palace over beer sales & cow-head issues.

  48. Has been Ali says:

    Hassan Ali was trying to be MB with UMNO as partners. Maybe now he will be appointed new MB (like in Perak).

  49. NonaNona says:

    All religions teach their followers about love, peace, freedom, truth, forgiveness, honesty, morality and justice which are the most important things in our lives.

  50. Perakian says:

    The Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Najib Razak yesterday reminded Muslims to avoid condemning or insulting other religions and the followers in their actions, but instead follow true Islamic teachings by respecting other religions.

    Najib is good at saying the right things at the right time, and at the right place.

  51. wits0 says:

    “..more important than the Temerloh temple case – was the trial of the eight Kerling guards on charges of “culpable homicide not amounting to murder.””

    Not a fair judgement by any count. Any fair minded person can understand that. They have no rights to defend themselves and their property under their charge against armed invaders?

    But Indians still kept voting MIC.

  52. doc says:

    “According to MIC insiders the going rate for a delegate is RM1,000 plus other incentives thrown in like expensive sarees, dhotis, and trips to Haadyai, Thailand across the Bukit Kayu Hitam border.”

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com.my/index.php/malaysia/36917-money-and-chinese-food-paves-mic-campaign-trail

  53. logical theory says:

    Vow! This Tok guru had been living from hand outs by the rakyat for ages! Time to bungus and chik chick out with chicks.

    Where’s the development in Kelantan?

    Now you see

    Now you don’t

    This is the result of trusting all these terrorist Talibans!

  54. korban says:

    “Where’s the development in Kelantan?” ——logical theory

    Come on, where are you from….they don`t need development

    Malaysia and the Club of Doom – The Collapse of the Islamic Countries

    The author talked about his chanced meeting with a group of Tabligh cult from Southern Thailand in a LRT train in Kuala Lumpur. “They were obviously very poor people but they have been on religious journey – away from home – for 4 months. They were rubber tapers and farmers…. When I asked “how does your wife earn money while you are away for 4 months? He replied “God will provide..”

    http://www.thai-blogs.com/index.php/2006/12/03/malaysia_and_the_club_of_doom_the_collap?blog=17

  55. wits0 says:

    “God will provide..”

    He has already…..provided a human brain/mind and that unspoken need for a sense of responsibilty wrt one’s own action. These people are just deluded by indoctrinated religiosity to justify their crummy prevarication. The same hypocritical excuse when they overproduce babies and doom them to the same cycle of poverty.

  56. wits0 says:

    “Where’s the development in Kelantan?” ——logical theory

    My suspicion, “logical theory”, is that you may be a sly agent provocateur.

  57. wits0 says:

    Understanding misunderstanding
    http://snipurl.com/rmerq [www_themalaysianinsider_com]
    ———————————————————————–
    Nice one describing Bodohspinland.

  58. howtostayalive says:

    written by telur dua, September 05, 2009

    The moral of this story is, if you must commit a crime, do it in small numbers. LOLLLLL. No wonder so many plunderers, rapists, snatch thieves and robbers are not caught.

  59. howtostayalive says:

    OTOH for larger amounts, the smaller the numbers the better, like this 1:

    Bekas pegawai belia dan sukan UM diarah bela diri

    KUALA LUMPUR: Mahkamah Sesyen di sini, semalam memerintahkan bekas Penolong Pegawai Belia dan Sukan Universiti Malaya (UM) untuk membela diri atas tuduhan menipu tiga pembekal peralatan sukan membabitkan lebih RM2 juta dengan menggunakan surat palsu antara 2002 dan 2003.

    http://www.hmetro.com.my/Saturday/Mutakhir/20090905074213/Article/index_html

  60. PAS, PR for ALL says:

    Hahaha! Not surprising! The way the rascists UMNO acts at the dialouge organized by the PR Govt. to relocate the temple. It is good and great to show everyone the real and true colours of UMNO. Action speaks louder than words and what we saw is what actually took place. The act of sabotage took place because they fear the public will realize how much the PR Govt. are with the rakyat. An excellent example is the way the PR Govt. fought for though without thanks for the KBP folks. Without which they would probably be squatting today.

    What have you gotta say now UMNO? The winds of change from Indonesia, Thailand had swept Taiwan and Japan and it only half swept Malaysia in March 2008. Like the tsunami, it only affected part of Malaysia. Let us hope that the winds of change will sweep and make sure it blows strong and thorough from Peninsular to East Malaysia and let the UMNO regime be history. Look at Indonesia today, what the wind of change had done to the country, a more prosperous and corrupt free Indonesia. Growing day to day and from strength to strength every day, with their economy flourishing, and our Barang Naik Government, having to increase the price of fuel to increase their income to fill their empty coffers! Their policy remains, if the coffer is empty, harga Barang Naik and they get to fill their coffers again. If not, allow more special 4d draws, that is the only way they know how to fill their coffers. Will they ever learn? Hahaha, the price of fuel had fallen and not increased since thier statements that world price of crude had increased.

    Let us hope Malaysians of all walks of life realized what changes can do. Indonesia had done so well after the winds of change swept through Indonesia with the demise of the Golkar, Thailand is recovering, Taiwan had done well and Japan, Japan, too had kicked the LDP out. Singapore is shivering and when will Malaysians wake up and with one heart and determination kick the present UMNO led regime out for good. We can vote them in if the PR does not perform and if they repent and not cause unnecessary rifts between the people of all races of Malaysia.

    1Malaysia! PR led 1Malaysia is the real deal!!!!!

  61. thiukai says:

    And what does the kingy do while his country is rotting besides playing the biola…ooops polo

    http://khookaypeng.blogspot.com/2009/09/3-stooges-1-apple-polisher.html

  62. PAS, PR for ALL says:

    Developments in Kelantan? We do not need it at all. Please go and develop your BN held states. After the project is completed, monies changed hands, there is no maintenance at all and the rakyat will be on their own. You cannot see the developers thereafter.

    Developments? MRR2? The stadium in Terengganu and a whole lot of schools that even before completion collapse? Well, do it in the BN States that you govern, we do not need unnecessary developments. We want peace of life and peace of mind. Never mind, you can have and fight for all the developments you want. We will develop according to our need and that of the rakyat.

    Only BN can deliver? That slogan sudah tak laku, but this one may be laku, ONLY BN CAN DELIVER UNSAFE DEVELOPMENTS for the RAKYAT!!

    We are happy with the way Kelantan had been and will be for many years to come. Go develop Kuantan into the next KL, Kelantanese are happy with the simple way of life and living. All Government servants have their pockets full on pay days and they can shop till their hearts delight, unless our poor cousins in BN led states who had not enough to spend. Because they gotta spend on 4d, tolls etc. In Kelantan, what we earn is our real take home pay. We are happy.

    PAS, PR for ALL

  63. Jambala says:

    That is the difference of those who live their religion and not those who exploit it. Can you really imagine those UMNO leaders living like that after the cameras have been turned away and the crowds return home ?

    What do they do in their frequent sojourn overseas?

  64. logical theory says:

    Sigh! Kelantan is still in the cave age, praying to stones and moons and washing as*es with sand.

    If you want to play politics with religion, please la go to the deserts then all would never give a damn.

    Sigh! In the US, not even a biblical quote is allowed in a radio, let alone in schools and politics.

    No wonder Bolehland people are still living on trees, mountains and caves…

    No wonder the Umnoputras are so ‘advanced and progressive’ as compared to the Kelantan Talibans so much so that the Umnoputras can practice aberrant religious politics with impunity, and nobody can dispute this bizzare theory.

    If there is any fault in their theories, they would say they just practiced what is it’s up. Who should we pursue up there aka the arbiter?

  65. logical theory says:

    This religious belief is nothing but only a belief and it’s only an unproven theory and it’s only an apocryphal.

    Those who are using religion in politics are nothing but amoral.

    Where is the logic with this new millennium, advanced information and communication technological age, there are still people playing religions in politics, this is utterly an anachronism.

    You know why Bolehland is besieged with all kinds of problems springing from religions?

    Why we have this cow head problem in Shah Alam? Isn’t this tied to religions?

    Religion is not a logical solution to the labyrinth of problems in Bolehland. To the contrary, it compounds the problems in Bolehland.

  66. logical theory says:

    Therefore the logical theory is that religion should not be mired into politics, else Bolehland will be like in the Middle-east with all kinds of religious problems pitting one people with another people.

    This is a proven logical theory and it’s only wise if Bolehlanders must separate religion from politics.

    Haiya, the British colonial master was the chief culprit in allowing this religion in politics in Bolehland so that Bolehlanders would forever living in chaos- quarreling and fighting among the Bolehlanders.

    This is the hallmark of our former British masters and Bolehlanders are falling into their trap. Our former British Masters created problems not only in Bolehland but all over the world la before they deserted the colonized countries.

    If something is wrong in Bolehland, it’s only logical to right the wrong using proven logical theory!

    Don’t be like an otak udang believing something which is seriously wrong in the policy can still work out perfectly for all!

    It’s time for Tik Tok Guru to retire and Pas must bungus together with him for the benefits of all in Bolehland!

    Please be a 100% full time religious preacher and one of the major problems in Bolehland is then solved.

  67. Menyalak-er says:

    The arbiter? Whazzat?
    Talibans are found in Afghanistan/Pakistan. Because they consider themselves talibs – religious students/scholars.
    Over in Malaysia, they are called Palat-i-bans.
    Although there are such palats in Pas/Pkr, they are not nearly as numerous as in the main fascist-feudalistic-hubristic entity called bumno.

  68. logical theory says:

    The existence of God is a perennial problem to mankind.

    Sigh! Now Bolehland is sinking deep into this archaic religious problem!

    Where is the logic???

  69. Menyalak-er says:

    Religion and “logic” does not mix. Just like religion and politics, comprendo.
    As regards to Darwin’s ‘Theory’ of Evolution – there is continuous revision and ‘Larmackism’ is currently in ‘vogue’.
    Einstein was a Deist.
    Atheist’s do not believe in ‘arbiters’.

  70. getout says:

    m`kini – Temple relocation in Shah Alam ‘shelved’

    The PAS & UMNO palat-i-bans have won. Indians get out of Sek.23 so malay property prices can go up, better still get out of Shah Alam and go to Subang Jaya or Puchong before the palat-i-bans come to your houses and you begin to hear bells. For the time being cower in fear.

  71. wits0 says:

    Cow-head bullies strike again — Neville Spykerman

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/opinion/breaking-views/36955-cow-head-bullies-strike-again-neville-spykerman

    Sept 5 — Yet again, the bull headed protesters of Section 23 have successfully shamed Malaysia.

    From the word go, it was obvious that disrupting the town hall meeting, rather than engaging in a dialogue, was high on their agenda….
    ————————————————————————-
    Umno’s long years of ketuanan effort has to show, wat.

  72. Menyalak-er says:

    And muslims amongst those arrested in louge while imbibing drugs and alcohol in Cheras lounge at 1pm…
    And i seriously thought that we as ‘kaffirs’ were the pits of maggotry!

  73. 丫雅 says:

    Most of you may have not seen these:
    1.Standing Buddha, Kampong Balai, Bachok, Kelantan

    2.Sitting Buddha, Tumpat ( on the Roadsite, where everybody can see)

    3. Sleeping Buddha, Tumpat (in the middle of the Malay Kampung, Kelantan, NOT Penang)

    A few more photo at below link:

    http://photobucket.com/caperang

    Too bad I don’t have the Hindu temple (Sri Maha Mariamman).

  74. thiukai says:

    丫雅,

    Nice, enjoy them while they are there.
    The bamiyan buddhas too stood a long while, but are no longer there.

  75. thiukai says:

    Hindu Temples – What Happened to Them

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=2267322

  76. tipusu*tan says:

    Gandhi’s experiment with Islam and why it failed

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/HinduWoman40718.htm

  77. wits0 says:

    tipusu*tan, that FFI link has been clocked by MCMC very sneakily on the quite. Use a proxy server.

  78. wits0 says:

    “blocked”, i.e.

  79. dharmic girl says:

    ..” ah, ‘stupid’ animal”….

    if the cow is stupid..why eat it in the first place..
    So..the saying ‘ you are what you eat’….is truelah !
    That’s why so much of such happenings by Shah alam protesters..ah?
    Thank God I am a vegetarian ! Thank God my parents taught me to behave well and be tolerant in a multiracial community.
    SOrry Najib……..far from achieving 1M’sia…your own people will demolish your dream!

  80. rastavibrator says:

    # Mahatma Gandhi on Muslim massacres of Hindus and Sikhs: “I would tell the Hindus to face death cheerfully if the Muslims are out to kill them. I would be a real sinner if after being stabbed I wished in my last moment that my son should seek revenge. I must die without rancour. … You may turn round and ask whether all Hindus and all Sikhs should die. Yes, I would say. Such martyrdom will not be in vain.”

    * He criticised refugees fleeing the Pakistani jihad, and told them to go back and die: “I am grieved to learn that people are running away from the West Punjab and I am told that Lahore is being evacuated by the non-Muslims. I must say that this is what it should not be. If you think Lahore is dead or is dying, do not run away from it, but die with what you think is the dying Lahore.”

    # Hitler actually explicitly said that Gandhi’s tactics would not have worked with him. At a meeting with Lord Halifax in 1937, Hitler advised the British to: “Shoot Gandhi – and if that does not suffice to reduce them to submission, shoot a dozen leading members of Congress; and if that does not suffice, shoot two hundred and so on until order is established. You will see how quickly they will collapse as soon as you make it clear that you mean business.”

  81. My2cen says:

    I think this is Kelantan led by Nik Aziz. We cannot equate his leadership style and tolerance with PAS. Look at PAS Terengganu, under Hadi. Look at the potential of PAS rule in Selangor under Hasan, I don need to mention what he has done/said. He’s not even the MB, yet he overule the MB of the state!!!

  82. remgold says:

    After living together in multi-racial Malaysia for so long, what if these days the silent-majority Malays (as compared to the Umnoised or Pakatanised Malays) are less tolerant of other religions?
    If an accurate polling was done, and the result is so, that could be the end of Malaysia as you know it.
    Just think about it.

    It means that modern, middle-class, urban, educated Malays have become more ‘Islamic’ in the sense that I would call as narrow-Taleban Islamic, kill-all-kafir types.

  83. remgold says:

    “Later, Datuk Mohamad Munir Bani, the private secretary to the su*tan said the meeting between Dr Hasan and the su*tan was to discuss on daily issues.

    When asked if they discussed on the relocation of the Hindu temple from Section 19 to Section 23, he just laughed it off without giving a clear answer.”

    -Star

  84. najib manaukau says:

    The Home Minister has not learnt from his Keris waving incident that eventually had him and UMNO ‘stabbed’ in the last GE by the Keris.
    One would like to think he should have learnt his lesson from that but the people of Malaysia should know by now he will never learn because it is in his blood. How can a dog roar !
    His support for the cow head incident will get back at him soon or in the next GE but whenever it is let us all not forget to have him kicked out in the next GE at the latest. Do not forget to come out to have him and in particular kick out UMNO in the next GE !

  85. FenceSitter says:

    The cow-headers won because they have the 1SidedAct to protect them. They knew they would not be questioned because anybody that does risk being 1SAed. They have showned once for all that double standards and blantant abuse of this Act. It must be abolished.

  86. bonzaibonzai says:

    A simple yet definitive argument to counter the ‘Malay majority’ bullshit by the cow-head protesters.

  87. monsterball says:

    UMNO crook ssimply love eating chicken.
    No wonder they love 2 legged chicken so much…cannot share…must C4ed after using.
    Chicken backside…which is known as “bishop nose”….most tender to eat. Don’t tell me those hypocrites to not enjoy eating the backsides.
    One ate so much…got the smart idea to use backside story and put one in 6 years jail.
    Now become a living hungry ghost…cannot eat like before.
    All UMNO crooks will become hungry ghosts…in the next life.
    Tax payers will feed them…with pity…20 years from now..mostly gone…and Malaysian Malaysia is OK without oil.
    But with UMNO…it will be living dead for Malaysians.
    Vote wisely.

  88. R4Os says:

    Be aware of the reality, that PAS has 2 factions:

    1. The moderate Erdogans — lead by Nik Aziz, Kelantan shows the example of “multi racial and multi religious Malaysia”…

    2. The extreme Radicals — led by Hadi Awang, consist mainly hardline Islamic fundemntalists, who are also racists on top of religious extremists!!!

    BE VERY CAREFUL of this group, don’t ever vote them in, come GE-13, voters better put in “Spoilt Votes” instead of voting them in, or else we will get more of HASSAN ALI’s in our assemblies, that may give us our WORST NIGHTMARES…

  89. R4Os says:

    BEWARE OF THE SECOND GROUP ABOVE…

  90. wits0 says:

    Yes, R4Os, PAS has two factions. The minus point is that Nik Aziz is growing old and Husam lost the last party election. Nashty and Hadis are untrustable.

  91. gdp says:

    “Later, Datuk Mohamad Munir Bani, the private secretary to the su*tan said the meeting between Dr Hasan and the su*tan was to discuss on daily issues.

    When asked if they discussed on the relocation of the Hindu temple from Section 19 to Section 23, he just laughed it off without giving a clear answer.”

    -Star
    remgold – September 6, 2009 at 6:18 am

    One can only hope their teeth will fall out soon, then maybe we can see less laughter from skunks.

  92. gdp says:

    We all know that even in the Arab countries the Hotels serve pork it served almost alongside the beef, lam and chicken, here it seems that even looking at pork can be sinful.

    Take a closer look at things and you’ll discover that the Halal label is being used to try and create a monopoly. Why, not too long ago there was on ad on radio of a a halal credit card, just imagine a credit card becoming haram, and an other halal.

    This is a poly by UMNO to rid the country of the Chinese businessman, our friends in MCA are busy fighting for their own individual political rights they do not even have an inkling of what is happening.

    With the growing Malay population Chinese and Indian businesses will be rendered useless by this Hallal thing, it is happening, even in cordials they use a halal label, in the future there will be halal and non Halal shops, and later on only Muslims will be able to operate and own such shops, that will put all no Muslims out of business.

  93. wits0 says:

    Variation on a theme….

    http://www.markbeast.com/

    Mark of the beast required

    “He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17

  94. vsp says:

    The cow-head protesters said that the cow is stupid. Anyway who is the most stupid – the cow or the Muslim rabble-rousers?

    A cow is a very patient animal, it is hard-working and it provides labour and food to mankind and it never complains. But these rabble-rousers are lazy, sacrilegious and mentally unstable. They despise God’s gift by stomping and spitting on the cow. Worse, being Muslims they should be showing the world what true Islam is. Alas, it was not to be, instead they became possessed with hate and evil and threatened death and violence to those who disagree with them. They were not amenable to any kind of rational dialogue. All these being displayed in the holy month of Ramadan and behind the backdrop of the “1Malaysia” slogan. Truly the tolerant Islam is flushed into the toilet bowl by these hypocrites.

    Malaysians used to be tolerant with each other. But years of UMNO rule has breed a group of uncivilised bigots who destroy this treasure house of understanding and respect. These bigots only know how to take but never give in return. These so-called religious rubbish love to worship power and money and they are willing to misuse Islam to justify corruption, cruelty, incivility and uncouth behaviour.

    O Malaysia! weep for the lost innocence, welcome to bigotry.

  95. Menyalak-er says:

    “…that will put all nonMuslims out business.” (gdp 7.03pm)
    I beg to differ. About 80% of “halal” big business and manufacturing are operated by the nons. Notice the halal certification on almost all your snack-foods, beverages, sauces etc? In fact the Halal certification is a boon to Malaysian manufacturing – it’s just that the goonies have their own concept of haram/halal.
    Do you think they can run the Islamic Banking System by themselves? Pok-kai before 6 months! It is not incompetence – it’s their corruption and blaise’ attitude. Fact is, the Kelantanese are shrewd businessmen and entrepreneurs, especially the women.

  96. getout says:

    If anything, the encounter has forced some Hindu residents of Section 23 to take a hard look at their neighbours.

    One woman said: “We have been close to our neighbours all this while and have looked out for each other, but this incident has shown how our neighbours view us and where we stand.”

    http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=37742

    Stupid kaffir get out before you are raped.

  97. boing says:

    KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 7 – Fugitive blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin is taking his fight to the government with a series of video interviews that are expected to be posted on the Internet from this Thursday.

    His popular Malaysia Today website began airing a trailer yesterday to promote the video interviews. In the short trailer, RPK, as he is popularly known, is shown talking about what he claims is government persecution against him.

    “They already decided on my crime and the punishment I am getting without investigations,” he is shown saying.

    He also comments on the continuing debate about Islam. He says in the trailer: “Muslims are the biggest enemies of Islam, not the kafir (infidels).”

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/37059-rpk-strikes-back-with-videos-

  98. tampoihostel says:

    UMNO donkey makes Syariah Court laughing stock:

    “For the discussion to be fruitful, PAS should not question the ‘akidah’ (faith) of Umno members as they are also Muslims.”

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/37122-najib-to-meet-pas-if-it-recognises-umnos-islamic-credentials

    His cousin Lembumudin:

    Apparently, the Home Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein has “cleared” the Prisons Department to cane Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, the part-time model who was caught drinking beer.

    “Cleared”??? What the f*ck does that mean? Oh wait, the YB goes on to explain…

    And how did they perform this demonstration for the YB?

    “She tapped the back of a chair with the cane……….. (don’t you just love that statement? – PT)

    ……There was little force involved and it was not going to inflict pain, not even like the caning carried out in schools in those days.”

    http://niamah.blogspot.com/2009/09/okay-la-go-ahead-and-cane.html

    ROTFL

  99. ktteokt says:

    There’s a difference between PAS Islam and UMNO Islam. Just look at Kelantan and compare it with SHAH ALAM!

  100. ktteokt says:

    They use different KORAN ah?

  101. tititis says:

    Tell that to the TITAS (Tamadun Islam dan Tamadeun Asia) lecturer who, in Universiti Sains Malaysia’s Dewan Tunku Syed Putra (USM DTSP) packed with around 1000 captive university students from various schools attending the compulsory subject, declared that all religions apart from Islam were misguided and wrong, naming Christianity and Buddhism specifically.

    And the kicker I will always remember him saying immediately after his non-muhibbah insults:

    “Kamu jangan marah. Ini bukan opinion, ini FAKTA.”

    (”You all don’t get offended. This is not opinion, this is FACT.”)

    There were 1000 students in the hall with me that hour of that day who can attest to my story.

    Mr Bigoted Lecturer, you can thank the merciful heavens that video-recording handphones were not widespread back in 2002.

    http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/usm-titas-lecturer-who-slurred-other-religions-in-2002/#comment-37356

  102. Fairplay says:

    Which BN MP from Penang died ?????

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