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I read with sympathy and offer my condolences to the victims of Bukit Antarabangsa. (Malaysiakini)

According to Marina Mahathir, there is a need for volunteers at the tragedy site:

‘Volunteers needed for surau Bukit Antarabangsa. Minta bantuan orang bersihkan sebab medics and police disitu sibuk menolong orang di surau. Kena bersih. Pls contact MARES/rescue (Aziz) 0169007763. Also bawa biskot & roti, dia orang tak makan. Pakai boots lecah. Bawa hp fully charged.’

I pray for the safety of many others who are still missing, and those who are injured for speedy recovery.

Amen.

Ps. Read also Elizabeth Wong’s “Bitter Vindication”.

36 responses »

  1. PureMalaysian says:

    Very sad indeed…

  2. batu ferringhi says:

    My condolences to all family members of victims. I am also feeling very angry… why oh why we don’t learn from the many tragedies and still allow (over) – development on hill slope Class 3 and 4…. and writing this, I think of the 3 ongoing projects along Jalan Batu Ferringhi. I drive pass everyday and I really don’t like those projects. I even feel scared for the house buyers. There are mini mud slides even now everytime it rains… dunno lah!

  3. Jackie Teo says:

    Dear all,

    May God Bless all victims! May God also bless all the irresponsible parties to sleep well at night!

    To these irresponsible parties involved, I am sure you would still drive to work with your Mercedes or BMWs even if you take extra afford to promote safety. Please do not play with innocent lives anymore.

    Uphold safety & not enrich your pocket alone

    God, please bless them to have a conscious!

  4. abi says:

    How much more before we really start learning? Sigh…Prayers to those effected by the tragedy

  5. malayamuda says:

    hangat hangat tahi ayam

    Go BN Go !!! Pegi mampus ko orang !

  6. Ffi says:

    Petrol station also can approved to be in Bukit Antarabangsa. I don’t know if peoples living there can remembered, during the time when they started work for the Petrol station OMG OMG the whole slopes shaking and trembling like no body business even those living down in BA like Pengirran Ukay,Tm Jobina, Ukay Height also rasa the fear and yet……No point talking and planning la after few mths lupa
    God, please bless them to have a conscious!

  7. ericind says:

    Deep condolences to the victims family,btw,is this bt antarabangsa hillside housing project approved by former MB THE ANAK TOYOL…

  8. anti greedy developers says:

    Asalamualaikum ,

    inilah akibatnya mengacau dan membinasa alam semulajadi kurniaan Allah
    yang sepatutnya di jaga dan di pelihara untuk kesejahteraan
    manusia.

    Pihak pemaju dan ahli politik sama sama untung.

    Percayalah lepas 3 bulan semua kembali seperti biasa
    dan akan di lupai sehingga berlaku kejadian yang tidak di ingini seterusnya.

    Inilah Kerajaan Malaysia Boleh.

    Ameeen.

    BTW can we have a Fatwa banning Hillside development ? long overdue….

  9. ericind says:

    SAD,SAO,SAD..

  10. ericind says:

    Deep condolences to the victims family,btw is this bt antarabangsa hillside housing project approved by former MB anak toyol..

  11. Aki-Odu Nabalu says:

    My condelences to all family members of victims.May God bless them.The blame should be not the developer itself but the blame goes to the BN government too.The BN government should take fully responsible.

  12. wandererAUS says:

    Let us hear the message of Condolence and Sympathy from the dentist toyo and his exco members of the previous State govt. They have blood in their hands!

  13. kittykat46 says:

    My condolences to the families of the victims.

    Unfortunately this may be another case of Mati Katak (Mati sia-sia). The Federal Court already ruled in the Highland Towers appeal case that Local Authorities cannot be held legally liable for building collapses, slope collapses etc. In my opinion the court erred in worrying itself with the financial impact on the government, instead of strict interpretation on the principle of liability and accountability.

    The other alternative for the victims would be to go after the developers, but if the actual avalanche occurred on government land, they can wash their hands, too..

    So, in Bolehland, as usual, in the end nobody is responsible…

  14. Anonymous says:

    Condolences to those who lost loved ones and sadness to those without homes and lives shattered.
    BolehLand supposedly proud it has no natural disaster to cause misery, death, loss of property and people’s hopes, has man made calamity and disasters. We seem to court danger, asking for it to happen and challenging ‘mother nature’. And those with money think that their money is as strong as the foundation piling, retaining walls, artificial landscaping, ‘man mad’ or is it ‘mad man’ or is it man made structures we erect on contours that defy logic, engineering or plain common sense. Thank goodness they are not blaming allah… yet! see ‘slip sliding away attitude’ http://www.jonathan66-my.blogspot.com

  15. ericind says:

    Let the ghosts haunt the anak toyo n the gang tonite,make em sleepless..

  16. jonathan says:

    BolehLand supposedly proud it has no natural disaster to cause misery, death, loss of property and people’s hopes, has man made calamity and disasters. We seem to court danger, asking for it to happen and challenging ‘mother nature’. And those with money think that their money is as strong as the foundation piling, retaining walls, artificial landscaping, ‘man mad’ or is it ‘mad man’ or is it man made structures we erect on contours that defy logic, engineering or plain common sense. Thank goodness authorities have not blamed allah… yet?
    Condolences and prayers to victims, lives lost, homes destroyed and lives shattered.. see.’slip sliding away attitude’ http://www.jonathan66-my.blogspot.com

  17. wits0 says:

    ‘So, in Bolehland, as usual, in the end nobody is responsible…” – Kittykat46.

    After the usual initial proffering of sympathy and condolence, the toilet paper media will quickly revert to the role of reasserting the propagation of public amnesia. This is an old script.

    From: http://tinyurl.com/6kmnoo
    “The Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi yesterday lamented that “Malaysians never want to learnt from past experiences” – “They want good views while developers only seek to profit; but no one takes safety and soil stability into consideration”.

    Conspicuously absent from Abdullah’s blame list are the various government agencies and authorities who should be even more culpable in giving approvals or closing an eye to dangerous hillside developments and in totally ignoring the lessons of the Highland Towers tragedy 15 years ago.”

  18. Eric says:

    Undi BN dan Toyol if you support landslides!

  19. Jackie Teo says:

    Prevention is better than cure. While I note the good intentions by the new ruling Selangor government, may I know what measures has been taken for those houses or apartments/condos that has already been build and going to be approved by the municipal council such as MPAJ? My question is whether the bad condition was discussed & transferred???

    I have a concern because the apartment I bought shows cracks all over. It’s at Block B, Pandan Perdana Lake View Apartment, K.L. I have written to MPAJ, Land Exco & my constituent YB to ask the safety condition of this building but to date, no answers has been given.

    I have proof of letters & emails from MPAJ copied to the Yang Dipertua Dato Mohammad Yacob to show that at initial stage, MPAJ hold the developer responsible and then later confirms the other as the management has been transferred from the developer owned management team to a new entity.

    One thing is confirmed by MPAJ – Jika ia melibatkan struktur bangunan tiada tempoh kecacatan.

    Now that’s the question I am asking!

    If the structure is Ok, then it is safe for me to occupy and as such, if the building collapses one day, we know who to send the bill to!

    I hope you can agree prevention is better than cure! We should have programs to check the living ones instead of praying for the lost ones.

    We should have MPAJ who are at tax payers cost to have preventive measures!!! A responsible body to protect the people!!!

  20. bamboo river says:

    I have only two things to say.
    My deep condolence to the families and my sympathy to the affected malaysians.

    I hope this will be the last ‘promise’ by the gomen to prevent unnecessary developement of hillslopes.

  21. Pegasus says:

    My deepest condolence to the victims families and to all affected by this tragedy,15 years after the Highland Towers tragedy,we would hope this would not occur again, but it did and the BN government with its cronies will start back with new development again.
    If my memory serves me right,during the Highland Towers tragedy, one of the resident says that the Ampang hills had waterfall , but this was redirected into the ground by the developer( am not sure how ),during the rainy season the rainwater flow is heavy and in turn the underground soil movement is heavy and loose causing landslides,this had affected the pillars pretty much and brought down the Highland Tower building then.I don’t know how much truth is in this but it was certainly thought-provoking.Whatever this hill-side developments should be stop in this country, May God Bless All.

  22. billauchris says:

    My friend’s son died in the Highland Towers tragedy about 15 years ago.

    If not for the lengthy phone call that I engaged my friend in, she would have joined her son on that tragic day.

    Despite the legal suits from the victims against the the developer and the local authorities, the apex court of the land came down with a shocking decision that they could not be held legally liable for building and slope collapses.

    The questions on liability and accountability evaporated since the date of judgement.

    It was a total loss for all the victims of the Highland Towers collapse.

    Did the developers and the local authorities learn any lesson from the Highland Towers incident? I do not think so.

    The PM lamented that the hill-slope developers cared more for profits than the safety of the property owners. As such not much emphasis on soil stability and foundation was given in the construction of high-rise apartments on hill-slopes.

    Public protests were silenced. The authorities continued to approve hill-side and hill-slope development projects. So, they must share a major part of the liability fdor allowing such projects to proceed on.

    It is hoped that no more approval shall be granted by the authorities for any developmental projects on hill slopes and hills. Please, please do not repeat history. For heaven sake, learn from history and abolish the practice fire fighting administration.

    The previous Selangor State Government MB and MPAJ President should be hauled up to show cause why disciplinary action should not be taken against them for granting approval to the recent incident.

  23. Collateral Damage says:

    Condolences to those affected.

    Our so called “leaders” should just shut up. Bunch of insensitive jokers talking through their backside.

  24. justme says:

    In the land of instant Phd’s,whats so difficult to get instant expert certification and approval for hillside developemant?

  25. fomca says:

    Yes, just blame everything on BN.

  26. Gadfly says:

    Physical or material safety is the foundation of aesthetics, comfort and quality of life. There is no absolute safety. It should be redefined as the degree of unsafety. However, marketing strategy and profit maximisation can blur sound engineering principles. Unethical business strategies coupling with unenforced safety regulations tend to produce social-technical failures. From the systems theory, neither purely technical nor social causes can explain disaster of this nature.

    Insights from previous man-made disasters are not difficult to be learnt. But the culture of accountability of the loss of human life with possible criminal and civil charges is far from nurtured. When no one can be held responsible for the loss of human lives, who cares?

    The maxim of safety regulation is ‘Whoever creates the risk, whoever is to control it.’ Obviously the business concerns create the risk. However, the government cannot shirk its responsibility to control and regulate the creators of risk. Unfortunately, the concept of ethical business and social responsibility is obviously lacking.

    Greed is good for capitalism?

  27. monsterball says:

    I spoke to Aziz..and he said…food and water..no problem.
    He needs a car battery…to be converted to charge HP batteries at the site.
    He said it will not cost more than RM200….which I agreed to pay.
    Keeping in touch with Amin Iskandar and Sheih…on this matter…for more details.

  28. Baby Ktemoc says:

    My Papa is unhappy why everybody is only blaming BN for this tragedy.

    This was clearly an Act of God
    (my Papa doesn’t believe in God, but you know what I mean).

    On top of that, what has the PKR-run Selangor state government and MPAJ (which is under their jurisdiction) been doing in the last 9 months ?

  29. panca says:

    With hearfelt sympathies and deepest condolences to the family of those that perished in the landslide. Prayers of calm and peace be with the families.

    Our new agenda must be to not support any project that cut hills or refrain purchase of housing project that built near vallley where upper slopes are not being protected from further development.

    The government must never allow this to happen, never again. These owners are victims of such unforgiving circumstances, a case of money comes first and absolute negligence of both the developers and the government(previous).

    There is no substitute for corruption except a change of government for the PEOPLE. We surely must make any current government to amend if there do not exist stricter regulations or enforcement be the order of the day to siff through the proper channel of administration for hillside project approval.

    Just who is going to say I am responsible for the cause, a case of one after another. All rhetoric aside, preventive measures must be the main administrative rule no 1. when we have too much of hillslope projects not properly guard against while we are not against development of housing, this must be put right politically, if needs be after found site unsuitable must be stopped.

    The government must be a responsible government as well those in high public posts, your salaries comes from the Rakyat including from those affected by this trajedy. So be responsible, all this is seriously lacking in our government machineries. The new government who is into cleaning those messy and dirty acts of the previous must ensure these salaried top officials in the government are made responsible and do the good and right things otherwise they should be reprimanded, fired and if they are only interested to waste the public funds warming their asses and waiting to get their palms greased they should opt for immediate retirement and start a business. Many are doing such while in positions and if there are news of them involving in abusing their positions for business gains, there should be no hesistant to clear their name, full investigation be led up.

    No more this shit in the government.

  30. panca says:

    With hearfelt sympathies and deepest condolences to the family of those that perished in the landslide. Prayers of calm and peace be with the families.

    Our new agenda must be to not support any project that cut hills or refrain purchase of housing project that built near vallley where upper slopes are not being protected from further development.

    The government must never allow this to happen, never again. These owners are victims of such unforgiving circumstances, a case of money comes first and absolute negligence of both the developers and the government(previous).

    There is no substitute for corruption except a change of government for the PEOPLE. We surely must make any current government to amend if there do not exist stricter regulations or enforcement be the order of the day to siff through the proper channel of administration for hillside project approval.

    Just who is going to say I am responsible for the cause, a case of one after another. All rhetoric aside, preventive measures must be the main administrative rule no 1. when we have too much of hillslope projects not properly guard against while we are not against development of housing, this must be put right politically, if needs be after found site unsuitable must be stopped.

    The government must be a responsible government as well those in high public posts, your salaries comes from the Rakyat including from those affected by this trajedy. So be responsible, all this is seriously lacking in our government machineries. The new government who is into cleaning those messy and dirty acts of the previous must ensure these salaried top officials in the government are made responsible and do the good and right things otherwise they should be reprimanded, fired and if they are only interested to waste the public funds warming their asses and waiting to get their palms greased they should opt for immediate retirement and start a business. Many are doing such while in positions and if there are news of them involving in abusing their positions for business gains, there should be no hesistant to clear their name, full investigation be led up. No more this shit in the government.

  31. panca says:

    Sorry Susan double posting, please do away one, thanks. A case of not appearing and then re-posting, sorry again.

  32. living on flat ground says:

    Lest everybody forgot….

    Just why did those people choose to BUY property in the dangerous highlands?

    Case in point, the development in Bt Ferringhi Penang, you can see the amazing foundation works done to supposedly strengthen the buildigs. If you feel it is not secure, do not buy. And the developer will not build. And the PBT will not approve.

    It all starts with the demands….

    Please…start blaming the buyers for once!

  33. Con Text says:

    The toyol blames Pakatan:

    *

    Khir Toyo’s comment on the Dec 08 Bukit Antarabangsa landslide, during his time, Semuanya OK

    The New Straits Times Online……

    “During my time, the state Public Works Department, with the assistance of the Public Works Institute of Malaysia (Ikram), the Geology Department and the Drainage and Irrigation Department, provided reports every three months on hillslope conditions in Hulu Kelang,” Dr Khir said.

    “This started after the last landslide in the area, which happened in Kampung Pasir in May, 2006.”

    Dr Khir said the currenthousing area where the landslide happened was not approved during his tenure but more than 15 years ago.
    He said during his tenure, the state had established a special committee headed by the state secretary to oversee all hillslope developments.

    “There was no problem then. I don’t know what happened after the new administration came in,” Dr Khir said.

    http://omong.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/khir-toyos-comment-on-the-dec-08-bukit-antarabangsa-landslide-during-his-time-semuanya-ok/

  34. ericind says:

    MB Selangor said today the hillslope housing projects were approved by anak toyo during his 8 years adminstration,but this twist n turn bugger still in the state of denial,trying to clean his bloody hands.

  35. drrafick says:

    Hi Susan
    I guess you forgot that I live in bukit antarabangsa as well ..

    dr rafick
    rights2write.wordpress.com

  36. tanagnes says:

    Hi Susan,

    Photos of the tragedy in Bukit Antarabangsa (5/12/2008 )brought anguish & sadness to our heart, How ‘s feeling when you see photos of hills clearing (underway now ) Go to posting “All projects at the hill slopes will stop” ?????? http://thetrekkers.blogspot.com,

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