I hear alot of people talking about neutrality, of being un-bias, fair, bla, bla, bla…Journalists and now even bloggers have to deal with this issue sometimes. I have this to say about it, but not my words though:

“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” (Desmond Tutu)

If I think of it like that, it’s sure easy to know where I stand. How about you?

236 responses »

  1. JeyS says:

    For the truth….and nothing but the truth.

    However the sad thing is the truth shall never emerge in this country. They have no balls to accept what they have to hear. They wish to live in this make believe world of theirs.

    Which side has the truth….thats where my head lays.(Pure truth not fabricated one)

    Cheers!!!

  2. When the government of the day cannot meet the standard of a responsible and transparent government ,whose interest is to violate the constitution and the laws of the country to perpetuate its grip on power….its hard to be neutral!!

  3. clearwater says:

    You stand on the side of what is right, not what is might, even if the numbers are not with you. In Malaysia, incumbents have the might but are seldom right because power and greed have corrupted the system and its adherents irreparably. If each of us were to do just a little bit, some brave souls doing much more, Malaysia will be a better place for all. There is still hope for change and reform.

  4. equality justice says:

    I stand for those who are really showing justice. So far what happening in Malaysia is all one way traffic with the government of the day manipulating a lot of things.
    I feel we are goin back to the dark ages.

  5. Ctizen Me says:

    Power corrupts absolute power allows you play GOD

  6. At th end of the day AI will still have to give his DNA !
    What is the aim of the entire exerciase, just to delay the truth ?
    Will he accept someone who acts and behaves like this when he DOES become the next P.M..

    AI refuses to explain why when he was in the cabinet he had asked the Chinese Malaysian to go back to China and also what did he do for the non Malays ? Does he want to be the P.M. of Malaysia without Chinese?
    These are simple questions and deserve answers, surely he cannot just avoiding them.
    Has he no answers for these questions being asked numerous times ?
    I will keep asking these same questions even post them in other blogs as well as his blogs until he either confirms or denies them. Simple as that.

  7. kesava says:

    Najib wants to drink chinese blood
    In Perak UMNO wants to kill indians.

  8. bamboo river says:

    I will stay neutral if matters are carried out without fear or favour regardless of rank and position.
    How to stay neutral when the other side is very biased?
    To the BN , neutral is “We are always right and we are never wrong”

  9. kesava says:

    (The Star) – Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim lashed out at the police saying that to date they have not given him a copy of the police report of the sodomy allegation made by his accuser Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan.

    He questioned why despite repeated requests the police report was being kept from him and his lawyers.

    “Is it so that they can keep amending and amending and amending it to fit in with the statement that I have just given to the police? I gave my statement for five hours yesterday (Wednesday) and for another 30 minutes this morning.

    “If they give the report to me now, how am I supposed to know that it is the original? Are they waiting to make up the ‘perfect’ police report?” he asked, adding that each time he sought a copy, the police said they had been instructed against giving him the report.

  10. najib manakau,
    RPK says he is ready to F_CK the Government.
    The only person missing is U (you) !!!

  11. whispering9 says:

    The time I stood ‘neutral’ was when I don’t care who won. Just before election, many took the side of the mouse. But if DSAI saga continues with him constantly taunting the government without bringing out the promised solid evidence, well, many will become neutral again. Come the next election, PR will only be remembered as a nonsense political front quarreling throughout the 4 years. Frankly, if DSAI pushes UMNO to change leadership prematurely and the new UMNO president adopts a moderate and firm stand…GE14 is over for PR. Sometimes, you are allowed to win a battle so that you lose the war.

  12. Tanpa Kepala says:

    I am also in the mood to F__K the government!

  13. nextgen says:

    the stupid BN goon Syed Hamid Albar came on TV when asked about Anwar’s DNA eveidence said…”what’s the problem giving his DNA…THAT’s ALL WE WANT”. Clearly these words show who is behind all these shenanigans. Why cldn’t he use BN’s usual words like, “I don’t know, it’s up to him, that’s what the police wants, he should just cooperate, blah, bla, blah”.

    Anyway, with all those petronas billions in BN’s pockets now, thay’ll start buying over PAS, PKR, DAP supporters, attempts to pay off Altantuya’s family, Bala, the whole works,…that’s BN (actually UMNO) for you. UMNO will never give up their position, too much at stake. GOD SAVE M’SIA.

  14. sick of all the drama says:

    dont know who i dislike more.. the govt or anwar. but just because i dislike anwar less, doesnt mean i m all for anwar to be next PM. so sick of all the drama, threats, counter threats, sd, froggies, milking sympathy…blah blah blah. so sick of the govt;s over-reaction to a single rakyat – anwar.

    i would like to know the truth but i dont want all of this stupid drama to crowd out and divert our energies and attention to more important bread and butter issues (issues important to the common rakyat).

    give us a break la.. Govt and PR, pls carry out your duties to the rakyat first before engaging in stupid moves and counter moves.

    where’s the evidence, ezam?
    where’s the evidence, anwar?

    dont say you’re holding out for the strategic moment. Rakyat deserves to know the truth NOW and not subject to MORE SANDIWARA.

  15. Maverick says:

    Fairdinkum ,
    we had enough of the umno led bn government who hoodwinked the citizens for as long as I can remember. A new dawn is approaching and I am very optimistic that the silver lining on the horizon is nearer than all expect. PKR is sure to win the hearts and minds of all who wants a change for the better. Long live DEMOCRACY !!!!!!!!!!

  16. sick of all the drama says:

    correction.

    would like to know the truth but i dont want all of this stupid drama to crowd out and divert our energies and attention FROM more important bread and butter issues (issues important to the common rakyat).

  17. kesava says:

    Bread and butter issue – scrap national service and use the money for other things. Not inflate BN pockets esp. that fellow from Pekan running around with C4 like it`s national service.

  18. kittykat46 says:

    There is a time to be neutral.
    There is a time when you have to stand up for what you believe.

    The BN was good for this country – once, years ago. Not any more.

  19. sunwayopal says:

    najib Manaukau (07:53:42) :

    At th end of the day AI will still have to give his DNA !
    What is the aim of the entire exerciase, just to delay the truth ?
    Will he accept someone who acts and behaves like this when he DOES become the next P.M..

    AI refuses to explain why when he was in the cabinet he had asked the Chinese Malaysian to go back to China and also what did he do for the non Malays ? Does he want to be the P.M. of Malaysia without Chinese?
    These are simple questions and deserve answers, surely he cannot just avoiding them.
    Has he no answers for these questions being asked numerous times ?
    I will keep asking these same questions even post them in other blogs as well as his blogs until he either confirms or denies them. Simple as that.

    To answer the above, the differnce is this, DSAI has now quite govt and has not said any of those things anymore, on the contrary, he is for a Malaysian Malaysia for all! That is all I need to know, I do not need to know 10 years ago, or 20 years ago or even what he did as a boy! What good will it do me?

    When you were a kid, didnt you steal anything in your life before? Why ? Why? Why?

    The important thing is the NOW, the TODAY! What sort of person are you?

    DSAI has turned over a new leaf and so long as he espouses the right things, he is the NEW leader.

    As for people like Najis Razak, Hamid Albar, Nazri and ultras like Keris-Muddin, like Bung Mokthtar, these are the idiots that still advocate a divide and rule by basis of ‘race’. People like MCA are still running dogs, clearly proven, they cannot even say ANYTHING that upsets UMNO even though thats the truth!

    Why do you focous on DSAI 20 years ago when clearly TODAY the BeeEnd leaders are racist TODAY ITSELF!!!!

  20. montoya says:

    ‘the fallen does not always finish last’

  21. kesava says:

    If the police are so desperate for DNA samples that can only mean the existing evidence is very shaky and a charge by the AG will not stick.

  22. Can leopard changes its spots ?

    To answer sunwayopal’s question if I had stolen anything when I was a boy ?
    The answer is no and not even till today. The same question is ,can the leopard changes its spots ?
    He had asked the Chinese to go back to Malaysia and also what has he done for the non Malays when he was the deputy P.M. plus a host of other questions.
    Why is he unable to give these answers and have the similar postings in his blog taken off. The questions deserve to be answered before the people can give him the support he is looking for.

  23. lakshmi says:

    I cannot remain neutral, not as long as BN remains the racist party it is. As a human being who believe in equal rights for all of us, God nor me will accept that, we His/her children, are unequal and that a particular should be given special privileges. If anyone believe that the constitution says so, then a fair government should change that outdated law.

    Anwar may have been whatever he may have been, I do not care about that any more. as an intelligent person thrown into prison for 6 years on some trumped up charges has clearly shown him that he cannot follow the path he may have followed before. He advocates change because he sees the vision for the future as us Malaysians living in a globalised world

  24. JAMES LOW says:

    This democracy in Malaysia is a sham. Try to be fair and righteous and make your stand, you are certainly not welcome in this bolehland.Whilst the inept and corrupt can bask under the sunny sand the smart and righteous are prosecuted until they lose their pants. Millions of ringgit for suckers in the squandering BN, brickbats and gaol for those who dare to dissent.

  25. Why should DSAI give new DNA to them. They already have the DNA recorded in 1998/99. The ex-DPP said that it doesn’t require DNA for this case in court, even the DNA experts from overseas and local also said the same. Then why they need new DNA, the goons must have evil motives. We, RAKYAT will supports with NO NEW DNA for those goons and never trust those goons. Those GOONS got evil motives to FABRIGATE the DNA, very OBVIOUS! Maybe NAJIS SPERMS INSIDE SAIFUL ASSHOLE, Perhaps NAJIS should be examined too for DNA!! ALLAH will send those eveil people to HELL very SOON!!!

  26. Robert Teh says:

    UNTIL the Govt effectively reform:

    The Police
    The Judiciary
    The ACA
    The Immigration Dept
    The JPJ
    The PSD
    Local Govt

    Meantime I shall remain biased, not-neutral.

  27. fred says:

    najib Manaukau, nobody will block you from asking questions. but please don’t spam this blog and many other blogs with repetitions. just state your question once. spamming and repetitions are uncalled for.

    i am probably saying this to someone who post and never listen. and his logic is flawed. while not an Anwar supporter myself, i think the GREATER evil here is our government who make malaysia a fcukin joke with its abuse of power to their own personal and political gains.

    najib Manaukau is probably one of the coterie of the ruling gansta. sent here to najis.

  28. Anonymous says:

    thnx 4 dis!

    but i wonder how many ppl relly get it, or rather they get it but they dun buy it …(in dis case) …mayb they oredy take side wif the elephant….or they simply hate the tikus 2 much for stealing his cheese 15yrs ago…sum ppl place hatred above justice u c

    sick of all the drama …its exactly such attitude tat demotivate any hero from rising…on tat 38 day, u ppl said “lets fight 2gether, we r ready 2 stand by u thru all the hi & low”, juz how many months thru the ‘low’….n u started 2 complain u r sick 4 simply listening 2 the news? well wat abt the 1 actually DROWNed in the drama….while at the same time receiving all ur complain?

    jesus christ!

  29. Hunk says:

    There are neutral bloggers and there are neutral commentators but upon chances what Dr. Ismail words of BobbyNZ at seperate topics, I am confident that BobbyNZ is an UMNO cyber-trooper before he was booteD BY Rja Petra.
    _____________________________________________
    Below was a commentator from MalaysiaToday Link :
    http://72.47.255.22/2008/content/view/9050/38/

    Smidgen of Excerpts from an angry commentator on BobbyNZ :
    My..my… what a surprise to see the self-righteous, condescending, santimonious BobbyNZ still around making a fool of himself.
    ______________________________________________________
    Hahahahahhaahhahaha. No wonder he is on medication. He should has shoot himself in the head. Hahhhhhhhhhhh haahahahahahaaaahaha.

  30. kesava says:

    Meet the new IGP – Khairy Jamaluddin:

    Apakah Khairy Jamaluddin terlibat di dalam siasatan kes Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim ?
    http://shamsuliskandar.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/apakah-khairy-jamaluddin-terlibat-di-dalam-siasatan-kes-dato-seri-anwar-ibrahim/

  31. mugabe says:

    Dear Ms Sloone and all Malaysians,

    Let put a simple check on the reality of Malaysian Ethic Socio-Political ecology.

    1] a) Chinese are divided along basically, the MCA type of businessmen who would like to continue their relationships with the UMNO Malays while they still hold power and keeping some of them [UMNO] with gifts and more gifts or appoint Malay Tan Sris and Datoks Chairmanships of companies to lobby for projects or sub-contracts;

    b) DAP Socialist-type of Chinese who believe without the benefit of any intellectual content, an egalitarian type of society, like what Lee Kuan Yew is doing in Singapore; the only trouble is that Singapore has its leaders a bunch of IVY League, Oxbridge buggers.

    2] the Indians will be always divided still in Caste system, Christians and Hindus, Tamil Nadu, Ceylonese and English-speaking Indians [well most Indians even in the Estate speaks a spattering of English].

    3] The Malays are divided among the following 3 groups:

    a) UMNO Malays still harping on Ketuanan Melayu and take advantage of all the wealth while they cling to Power and give Projects they have obtained to the Chinese Contractors to do the jobs.

    How they do this, simply to mark up the Profit Margins, spend the margins and let the Chinese contractors do the dirty job with foreign labour.

    b) PAS Malays, many still believe in the dream of an fantasy Islamic State, as if that alone will solve all problems ; meaning, they inidividually and collectively do not have to stive to be “Islamic”.

    Sometimes they mixed up the Malay Nationalism with Islamism and at other times, toss around with all kinds of fringe or wayside non-mainstream Islam; like Wahhabism, Reformism or Ikhwanul Muslim.

    c) PKR Malays behaving like cult followers of Anwar Ibrahim without him there will be absolutely nothing ..everything will simply crumble .

    And the many odd modern Anglophile or Americophile Malays who don’t give a shit about his religion or politics.

    4] so what is happening now and what you see it simply the FEAR very REAL FEAR of the UMNO Malays elites about to lose ALL their Privileges, Patronage and Feudal existence.

    b) The UMNO Malays comprising from the Sultans, Cabinet, State Exco, Ketua Bahagian and the IGP-Police, AG-Judiciary, Immigration, JPJ, Customs and above all the GLCs and State Government Subsidiaries are REALLY SCARED of losing everything.

    c) What are they losing …. share of the Wealth by means KOSHER, Halal, Above Board, Transparent, Competitive Tenders, Free Market, Disclose All Clause in Toll Agreements, and Completely Government Military Arms and Weapons Procurement …. say through Arms & Weapons Procurement Commission …with an Armed Forces Board.

    5] This fellow of the name Anwar Ibrahim is slowly dismantling all this nonsense and leading a Multi-Racial Party with High Ideals and using the very word that Islam fights for ie. JUSTICE.

    How to scuttle Anwar Ibrahim’s dream and the dream of many right thinking Malaysians … sodomy , corruption [now cannot lah, he no longers hold Government position ….

    BTW the last time he was charged with Corruption was simply to ask the SB to “frigthen” this Umi Halfida, sister to Azmin Ali ]

    Sometimes, all you need to do is seek the guidance and protection of your Creator whether you live in Zimbabwe or Zimbabwe Timur and enjoy watching the “drama” , “sandiwara” “Chinese Opera” or Hindu Modern epics playing live for free!

    Cheers and have a nice day!

  32. eeyaw says:

    Anwar past aside, what would you do if have been treated by the PRDM the way he was man-handed especially when Anwar is not just any ordinary bloke? If this is not Police State then Zimbabwe would be a bed of rose!

  33. Jsss says:

    So irritating, the way botak albar talk on TV news yesterday. Inside the botak’s head full of mud instead of brain. Talk rubbish dosen’t make sense.

  34. sunwayopal says:

    “””najib Manaukau (09:04:05) :

    Can leopard changes its spots ?

    To answer sunwayopal’s question if I had stolen anything when I was a boy ?
    The answer is no and not even till today. The same question is ,can the leopard changes its spots ?
    He had asked the Chinese to go back to Malaysia and also what has he done for the non Malays when he was the deputy P.M. plus a host of other questions.
    Why is he unable to give these answers and have the similar postings in his blog taken off. The questions deserve to be answered before the people can give him the support he is looking for.”””

    You are not answering the question, what about the current BeeEnded leaders today? Why do you not ask Najis Razak who said he will bathed the chinese in blood, about Kerismuddin action and Tajudin from UMNO etc etc etc.

    Chinese go back to China has been uttered by so many leaders lah, from Mad Hathir time already. You are asking questions that UMNO people have said from time immorial.

    By saying DSAI is still bad , what is yoru alternative??? Are you saying we then support the current racist in UMNO??? In BeeEnd??? Is that your solution??? They are the current racist TODAY and is still saying it!!!

    DSAI is no longer an ultra, he hasnt been an ultra since 1998.

    That to me is the difference and why DSAI deserves all our support!!!

    To break the racist UMNO and hegemony of BeeEnd.

  35. Hunk says:

    “Najib manakau”, BobbyNZ may have been the same person under such fictitious
    nicks to “hentam” others. No wonder RPK charged that they were hired by Adelina Dykeman. Hahahhhahahahahahahhahaahhaha. They tried to provoke a havoc and social discord any attempt to get us and the blog owner to be charged by the authorities before RPK kicked em out.

    Dr. Ismail was right, these sickos needs medications. Ha ha and ha.

  36. lovemalaysiaforever says:

    BN UMNO SHITS ALL THE TIME………….THEY R NOT UMNO DAHULU…….ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!!! IT’S THEIR BLOODSTREAM OF CURRUPTED CULTURE ALREADY………DON’T THINK WE PEOPLE ARE STUPID!!! UNTIL NEW GOVERMENT IS FORMED THEN MALAYSIA WILL SEE RAINBOW………..

  37. Tanpa Kepala says:

    Now is NOT the time to remain neutral. NOW is the time to KICK OUT BN once and for all. I think if Anwar and gang find that the only way is to use DIRTY TACTICS than I am ALL FOR IT. Once PR is the new government, then we can think about being neutral and start keeping tabs on them. Not now while BN, whose people are made up of idiots and evildoers, is still in power. GET RID of BN now!

    To Najib Manaukau,

    Are you trying to say that a politician must remain the same all his life? Maybe it’s true that you never stole as a young kid, and maybe you yourself have never commited indecencies all your life, but surely you have changed. As man, change is what defines us. Some of us change for the better, and some of us for the worse.

    I salute Anwar for paying no heed to people like you who continue to call him a chameleon. I mean come on, we are human beings and we change for God’s sake!

    Stop being as idiotic as BN okay.

    “F__K THE GOVERNMENT”

  38. Ashverine says:

    I cannot be VERY sure who is guilty or innocent. Because in this country, semuanya BOLEH!!! SO my stand is…. transparency and a fair justice… Where the polic should do what they preach!

    Honestly, the way things are brewing, there is no fairness and we are against it. So treat Anwar’s case fairly… and all other cases. How can the rakyat ever feel safe if the law can be manupulated?

  39. kesava says:

    Mahathir never apologised for May 13 with najib father. Badawi was the Secy of the emergency Council. At that time Anwar used to be in his shorts.
    None of them apologised. Thankfully 1 of the dirty 3 suffered with cancer and died. But even there that evil man had the last laugh – he left us his son to take care of.

  40. 2 cents says:

    just heard from a friend that her nephew was stabbed in broad daylight at a traffic junction while on a motorbike by a snatch thief. he died leaving 3 young children. should i be biased when i hear of the balaclava-clad officers and the huge entourage used to catch one person with unproven and alleged “crime” while the rakyat is faced with increasingly daring real crime, you bet i am biased.
    when i hear that the whole city was immobilised because of some rumors of rally being organised while the real sufferings of the rakyat are ignored, you bet i will be biased. i am sorry BN, you lost me long2 time ago. you can bet that my future generations and beyond will also be biased..

  41. kesava says:

    “As a politician with a conscience, I share the people’s frustration of watching the widening gap between the rich and the poor, the permeation of racial disappointment in public policies, the rising corruption and the abuse of power.

    “Despite the growing discontent of the people, Barisan Nasional has shown neither the determination nor the commitment to address these problems,” she said.

    On MCA, Tan said the party’s struggle to defend the interests of the Chinese community often ends with having to ‘concede and compromise’.

    – Tan Yee Kew
    [

  42. Dave says:

    To remain neutral or not to remain neutral? That is the question of the day.
    To remain neutral means you’d have to not side against anyone, if you choose the other way round, then you’d have to side with somebody.
    The issue here, I think is not wether we should remain neutral but if we should choose the right path, which path is the right path?
    Go with BN? Already done that, been there, not very rosy future by the looks of it.
    Go with the opposition? Not proven to be able to lead the country.
    How about go with our own instincts? There is a chance that if the old horses are no longer there, the new horse might not be so bold, hence we might be better off.
    SO side with no one, but side with the people of Malaysia, if we can all agree that we should take the leap, then just elect them out with one voice, that’s the only voice that you can trust.

  43. Hi Najib Manaukau,
    A good day to you. Let’s forgive and forget and moves forward to a better tomorrow and if possible an alternative govt. Do you see our future better with the present govt? Only if we do not have a choice, I would say. For generation my family have been staunch supporter of the BN, particularly MCA…. what have they done ……….behind those close door? Anyone’s guess is as good as yours. Asking AL about the past statement will not solve anything. View his present action. Most if not all umno members have said something that hurts other races at one time other another. The only differences between them and the other political parties is that one says it in public and the other in close door.

  44. kesava says:

    Yang lebih lucunya kenyataan Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar berhubung isu DNA saya. Mempersoalkan motif saya untuk tidak mahu memberi sampel DNA kepada polis. Jikalau kebenaran jadi ukuran? Bersihkan dahulu elemen-elemen yang merosakkan dalam polis dan agensi keselamatan lainnya! Jangan tahan orang tanpa bicara! Yang takut bukan saya tapi bapak-bapak menteri yang entah bila akan kehilangan kuasa. Jika Menteri Dalam Negeri tahu bagaimana rasanya diikat lalu dipukul setengah mati, oleh Ketua Polis Negara ketika itu dan di dalam Bukit Aman, ibu pejabat pasukan polis! Baru layak rasanya bicara dengan saya. Dunia sedang menyaksikan komedi gelap bagaimana aparat-aparat pemerintah mampu untuk memalsukan bukti demi memastikan segelintir terus memerintah.

    Kita sudah puas melihat kejelekan proses pendakwaan dan perbicaraan tahun 1998. Bukti-bukti dipalsukan, para saksi diugut serta dipaksa untuk mengaku. Semuanya taktik lama, aktor picisan baru yang sandiwaranya dimainkan oleh aktor penting yang lama. Cuma cubaan untuk mengelirukan rakyat kali ini pasti tidak akan berjaya. Rakyat mahukan perubahan.

    ANWAR IBRAHIM

  45. allthings101 says:

    Neutrality is for the weak minded. A life, to me, is full if one thinks. Thoughtful lives and forming opinions about life, freedom, trust, sacrifice…I could go on and on. I’m happy to have found your blog!

  46. Arumugam says:

    I dunno about how you guys think, but I definitely don’t want DSAI to lead the country. Although DSAI looks very charming, attractive, outspoken and convincing to you guys, but I rather to have AAB, Najib or even Mukhriz itself to lead the country.

    When it comes to theories and speeches, Anwar is the best. But for management and realization, BAH. What a crap and cheap talks.

    However, I’m not siding in either party. I’m just hoping for the chosen contestant from the public to continue doing jobs to solve the problems face by the rakyat not making stupid rubbish political talks.

  47. chew for justice says:

    Any man / woman with sound and critical mind would belieive or strongly suspect that the sodomy charge is part of political conspiracy by the UMNO- led government to cripple the the rise of Datuk AI as the figure head of the alternative political coalition to take over the government.
    Let not forget, Umno and its leaders are infamous over the years for being best at resorting to whatever dirty tactics there are to grab and hold on to power. To Umno and their leaders, the end justifies the means. And they cover up all these dirty tactics all these years with the help of Mainstream media that they control, the propaganda agencies like Biro tata negara, the NGOs they fund and the control that they have over ACA, Judges and the police force.
    No doubt Datuk AI presents a great threat to them, especially since last GE results. What worry most to Umno are the facts that he can mobilise resistance and oppositon from ordinary masses and that his political ideas seem to be well received by malaysiams of all races. For this, Datuk AI has to be stopped and terminated for whatever cost and by whatever means.

    The big question now is, will the majority of malaysians continue to remain silent and neutral as they have been or rise up and make their stand known.

  48. PHUA KL says:

    Learn from history!

    If too many good people stand aside today when injustice is being done right before their very eyes, worse will come tomorrow.

  49. tanpa kepala,
    everybody are in the mood to F_CK the Government!
    Please include Najib Manaukau in the line up!

  50. eeyaw says:

    We make a stand when we see injustice done not just to Anwar but to Altantuya as well. It would be an injustice if we do not speak up for our fellow Malaysian who was man-handled like a criminal while the real criminals are roaming the streets striking terror to ordinary folks. To would be injustice if the people in power are allowed to bully their ways to retain power using institutional instruments like PDRM & AG, and are treated at different standards from the ordinary citizens. To the Barisans they think that it’s an entitlement to retain power at the expense of fair play & Justice while the Citizens are being oppressed by inhuman treatments!!!

  51. kesava says:

    Circumstances? Hours after the debate, minutes after an ACA report, an hour early without any plausible reason whatsoever, and with a squad of fifteen cars. Balaclava masks were used as well, but close inspection of the pictures suggests that the mask wearers were in fact overweight, sloppy, everyday cops who were given ski masks to wear along with their goofy vests and plain clothes at the last minute, rather than professional special-ops personnel (they also appeared fully prepared for their photo-ops, never straying far from Anwar).

    Was this by design?

  52. Jeffripower says:

    I don’t want Anwar to lead our country.. Never..never..and never… because he has so many ‘songeh’. If really he was innocent, why he always make something stupid. Look like he was paranoid.

  53. Klaw says:

    To some commenter above, if what it takes to get to the truth is all the drama right now, then would you then prefer to get to the truth, or prefer the bread and butter issues to be fixed first at the expense of truth?

  54. kesava says:

    It is worth investigating on a procedural level exactly what led to the charge against RPK – was it a police report by Najib? Or a police report by some unknown police officer?

    Note further that RPK’s trial – in which he can finally reveal to the world on record all his hidden proof and dirt on the Altantuya murder – is set for the exceptionally early date of August 15 (magistrates are appointed directly by the AG’s chambers), whereas his other sedition charge, months ago, is only set to be heard in early October. Presumably, if Anwar is ever charged with sodomy, his trial is likely to take years before it is heard.

    Hit Anwar to embarrass Abdullah, hit RPK to embarrass Najib, and all in all, show them who’s boss.

    http://jelas.info/2008/07/18/invisible-hands-digging-out-the-true-motives-of-anwars-arrest/

  55. […] Susan said in her post: I hear alot of people talking about neutrality, of being un-bias.. […]

  56. Orang Utan says:

    Arumugam,
    I think u prefer all the corruption and discrimination to carry on ? I think u r not an Indian. Other races have been continously being discriminated.Just look at the Govt dept and all the major local banks, they are just being dominated by one race.

  57. fergie says:

    I have always supported the under-dog but if a crime has been committed then the guilty party should be punished .. not til he/she is proven guilty tho.

  58. I said this before I am not a supporter of UMNO , in fact I detest them. Everyone of them in UMNO !
    I hope this is clear once and for all.
    All I am asking for are answers to some of the questions I asked so many times before from AI.
    Is it so difficult and too much to expect from someone who aspires to be the P.M. ? May be he has no answers or is not able to do so.
    Is avoiding giving an explanation AI’s way to becoming the next P.M..
    To some of you who suggest I am mentally sick because I am asking for answers to my questions
    These people are blind sick themselves, may be even dictators in the making I might add. If they are not already one.
    To these people you are not allowed to question why but to do and die !
    We are not from the past, we are in 2008.
    We are not Mamak Mahathir’s supporter either for your information.
    The need for these answers does not mean I am a supporter of Najib or any of UMNO pigs and dogs. Truthfully I wish cancer will strike all of them to day and take them away from this earth. Malaysia will be a better place without these half breeds !

  59. Harrison says:

    “Power corrupts the few, weakness (to act) corrupts the many”-Eric Hofer

    Only In neutrality, an unbiased conducts determined and reflects our strength, nerve, grace, and spirit to fight for the truth under God, otherwise our actions will only manifestly seen as an act of blind patriotism.

    Raja Petra write of the “ALim”/ Pious where one committed 99 murders and repented before hitting the 100 marks, they are under the presumption that they will go to heaven.

    When Mahathir Mohamad criticized when he mentioned “to my supporters and detractors” merited me to wonder that if one one my comments calling him “the bigger of the 2 hypocrites between him and Pak lah) was disaproved, how can he dispensed the word “detractors” when the tangibilities of your comments was not even published?

    (Blind) Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious according to Oscar Wilde.

  60. Mahendra says:

    If we do nothing now, we are doing injustice to Malaysia.

  61. sick of all the drama says:

    hi klaw

    that;s why i said to ezam and anwar, if u said u have the evidence just show it… why play dilly dally, hard to get…

    if they have the evidence that brings us to the truth (or closer to the truth), then GIVE THEM UP, we want to know the truth so that we can bring all those charges, allegations to a close. All everyone did was to trade allegations and write SDs.

    I did not say to sideline the truth… I said i was fed up of all the stupid drama while the “evidence” is being kept close to heart by those who said they have it. either for personal or political gains i m not sure.

    If anyone withholds evidence about crime, it is also a crime!

    you can talk about worries about personal safety, but if they dare to challenge each other with allegations and what not, why wont they dare to GIVE UP the real EVIDENCE as well, since many parties (ezam, anwar etc) claim to have EVIDENCE of crime and wrongdoings.

    Police should also start investigation on najib’s involvement in altantuya case.

    so that the whole country can move on instead of having SANDIWARA playing before our eyes.

  62. sick of all the drama says:

    to add..

    Police should also start investigation on najib’s involvement in altantuya case.

    (and i mean REAL, SERIOUSinvestigations – open to public)

  63. TRUTH is ubiquitous. The more one tries to hide it the more it pops up and faster too.

    The TRUTH in Malaysia is: we are all screwed – right, left and center!

    The 12th GE has not enabled cooperation, collaboration and direction setting to keep the nation on its pathway to growth, peace and success. Now who takes the blame? The rakyat? Opposition? BN?

    The TRUTH is the PM must take the blame. Period. That is what leaders are, aren’t they?

    TRUTH also says that the powers-that-be ARE scheming – on both sides of the divide. And in-between, the helpless rakyat are being squeezed with help from the forces-that-be.

    TRUTH also says that the signs are all over the wall. The working man on the street will be the ultimate pawn while the powers that be move on and harvest the spoils. And that harvesting has been going on for the last three decades. Only now it is going overdrive. Can’t you see?

    Do this Malaysia is NEVER going to be the same Malaysia that we knew when we joined its First Prime Minister in the thundering shouts of ‘Merdeka!’.

    Everything else we may say is only momentary….unless of course a BRAVE, ‘NEW’ LEADER emerges with VISIBLE help, support and endorsement from the Rulers. Otherwise too, any blooming leader will be nipped. Can’t we see what is happening to DSAI for example?

  64. kram says:

    “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.” (Desmond Tutu)

    If one cannot see the above reasoning, then it’s unproductive to continue.

    When there is injustice, with our judgement, we need to take a position.

    Otherwise, you know what I mean.

    That is a very relevant quote. Thanks ….
    I am begining to like this blog

  65. peng says:

    If we continue to stay neutral, we will be extinguished in no time!
    As someone wrote in Malaysiakini, ‘Speak up now or you will be next’.

  66. BobbyNZ says:

    I am apolitical but this person called Anwar Ibrahim, former DPM and Finance Minister should never become PM of Malaysia for 3 reasons:
    a. He betrayed his countrymen in 1997 by legalising short selling of currency
    and stocks to facilitate the attack of the CROOKS to destroy the livelihoods
    of Malaysians. This was covered up with massive propaganda by the crooks.
    b. Quite a number have complained being sodomised by him. Some have
    complained to Dr M. One of them told me personally. The latest case is of
    interest.
    c. He demonstrated no leadership quality during the “financial attack”. Instead
    he took a trip to the land of the CROOKS, got a red carpet welcome and a
    tour of the Pentagon. His friendship with the CROOKS is evident to this day.

    Cheers!!!

    BobbyNZ

  67. sunwayopal says:

    “””””””” najib Manaukau (11:00:12) :

    I said this before I am not a supporter of UMNO , in fact I detest them. Everyone of them in UMNO !
    I hope this is clear once and for all.
    All I am asking for are answers to some of the questions I asked so many times before from AI.
    Is it so difficult and too much to expect from someone who aspires to be the P.M. ? May be he has no answers or is not able to do so.
    Is avoiding giving an explanation AI’s way to becoming the next P.M..
    To some of you who suggest I am mentally sick because I am asking for answers to my questions
    These people are blind sick themselves, may be even dictators in the making I might add. If they are not already one.
    To these people you are not allowed to question why but to do and die !
    We are not from the past, we are in 2008.
    We are not Mamak Mahathir’s supporter either for your information.
    The need for these answers does not mean I am a supporter of Najib or any of UMNO pigs and dogs. Truthfully I wish cancer will strike all of them to day and take them away from this earth. Malaysia will be a better place without these half breeds !
    “””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””

    Your actions does not coincide with your words. You are now holding DSAI to a higher standard than Najis Razak or even Badawi.

    Badawi is currently PM now and Najis Razak is currently DPM.

    Instead of hounding DSAI, why do you not post in ALLL of the BloGS, why is Najis Razak our DPM when he has promised to bathe his Keris in Chinese Blood.

    That is what you should be doing.

    And finally if you do get an answer, then you may have the right to ask DSAI!

    Remember DSAI is not in Govt even now and you are holding him up to a higher standard to leap over than the currrent people in Govt today , ie Najis Razak and Badawi!

    You are acting the same as the corrupt PDRM of Malaysia, when it comes to DSAI, a one extreme standard of arrest and questioning, when it comes to Najis Razak, a VERY different standard indeed!!!!!!!!!!

  68. he replied to the question “why he chose to against the gov” is becoz the gov din listen to his view. yup, he might not suitable to become PM, let her wife be and he’ll be just another NGO who the new gov willing to listen……

  69. sunwayopal says:

    DSAI should be our PM….

    Unlike Mahathir who paid money to meet George Soros secretly and then in front act like hypocrite!!!!!

    Unlike Badawi who has a crooked SIL but doesnt realise it.

    Unlike Najis Razak who is racist to the core and who is now accused of being party to the Altantuya case!!!

    DSAI may not be perfect, may be guilty of a lot of things in the past but he is the FUTURE HOPE of this country , hope from the corrupt entity that is UMNO !

  70. God's army says:

    I’m no supporter of any parties and neither am I interested in politics.
    What I can’t bear to see is those bullies, who’re intimidating not only the people,
    but also playing dirty tactics to “kill” certain individuals because of greed and power.
    Rest assure, all you innocent ones!!!
    By year end, the divine forces will end the misery of those who suffered and banish those “demon armies” to hell.
    I’m no jesus nor am I an angel, but I do have certain limted “powers” that could invoke angels and spirits.
    It’s payback time to the one who think they could cover the entire sky with one hand.
    Tolerance has its limit!!!

  71. ylcw says:

    Anwar
    Do we recall such a large number of Rambo styled police involved in arresting the suspect in the Atlayunta case. Is sodomy also more serious than fixing of a judicial system, corruption, vote rigging, marginalisation of minority races, lying, robbery, discrimination?
    What preference of style Anwar favours is none of anybody’s business. It is his private life, and is something very personal between him and his wife (you are the guilty one in the eyes of the law if you are caught peeking in the window to watch what he was doing!). He obviously seem a normal person to me to begat so many children. How many of us would admit what style we do behind closed-doors? How many people you know have extra-marital affairs or men/women friendships? Some get caught, others don’t. Policemen are no exception. Or is it just ANWAR? Come on! – my husband is a foreigner, and seeing is believing when you witness the kind of conversations the “kwei lohs” are having. They are just laughing their heads off and commenting that we people are not that serious! The US & Japan are not stupid. They have their embassies based in KL to provde them with feedback – common sense will tell you that they do not need Anwar to “snitch” on BN. As for our ex-PM …. please, can you just retire quiety in Langkawi. You are no angel yourself!

    Raja Petra
    He has got an awful sense of humour. My sister is a great fan of RPK, and he really makes us laugh. We need more people like him with that kind of courage and dertermination. More of us should speak up. We shall not think it funny though if the authorities try to intimidate or put RPK behind bars! Shame on the government/police for their bullying tactics.

  72. Harrison says:

    file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Tony.HOME-E239F1AB85/Desktop/mahathir%20and%20soros.jpg

    One fanatics can only trust Mahathir of his words. Once an enemy, nows a friend.

    Mahathir will stick his a$$ with Ca$h whenever chances comes by.

  73. RKP says:

    What do you do when you see snakes and scorpions on your way? You naturally would want to trample and crush it with your feet.
    Just recollect the 50 years of venom and poison and you will know which side you should be on?
    If it is still not clear to you: check on the many twist and turns of this country?
    Justice- No
    Uprightness of behavior-No
    Fairness to the poor-No
    Greedy politicians -yes !

  74. kesava says:

    Mahathir was the most corrupted. His sons also.

  75. kesava says:

    Badawi also corrupted. Khairy also. Najib also.

  76. God's army says:

    Remember Tun Mahathir!
    While you were lying in IJN, God has given you another chance to live.
    Not because you’re lucky or the doctor is good.
    You knew very well that it’s because you’ve to redeem your previous guilt and to mend those silly mistakes which you’ve done by putting those evil ones to power.
    Time is precious as you should know so do your work fast, before you expire!!!

  77. kesava says:

    And Tajuddin, in response to another comment by S Kulasegaran (DAP), retorted: ‘This is Malay rights. I have met several cabinet ministers and they agreed me with me that scholarships should only be reserved for Malays. There should be no compromises!’

    The UMNO MP is also quoted to have later said: ‘I’m not racist.’

    http://imagineequality.blogspot.com/2008/07/constitution-is-clear.html

  78. kesava says:

    “Time is precious as you should know so do your work fast,…”

    Yes join up with najib for ketuanan melayu riots.

  79. Orang Utan says:

    BobbyNZ,
    Let discuss about sodomy- the physical aspect.
    Let’s assume that u r six feet tall and a weak man about 5 ft plus & also have undergone surgery his back problem try to sodomise u.
    First he has to undress u.Do u think a man trouser is so easily been undress?.
    Then he has to grab u & turn yr backside around. For yr info the ass hole very small.In order for him to penetrate u must keep very still. Even a slightest movement is not possible. Dou think u can stay still for the other person to
    sodomise u?. So just think of the physical difficulty involved.

  80. Pink Panther says:

    http://jelas.info/2008/06/28/anwar-accused-of-sodomy-again-coincidental-timing-or-did-anwar-have-the-50-mps-he-needed/

    Another of BobbyNZ’s malice. He hounds on almost every blogs prostituting his falsehoods and lies.

    And another, Yes, BobbyNZ is indeed a cyber-trooper.
    http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/rpks-out/

  81. Bolehwan says:

    Funny, this ppl are so forgiving when those in Gomen can do:-
    1) Murdering by C4;
    2) Getting commissions at the expense of tax payers’ money;
    3) corruption at tax payers’ money;
    4) brainwashing the next generation of leaders with BTN so there are more racist;
    5) deterioration of quality of education for the sake of racial supremacy at the expense of the economy;
    6) selling off country’s precious resources and pocketed the most of the proceeds;
    7) allowing foreigners in from neighbouring country and giving them citizenship without scrutinising them whether they are capable and able to contribute to the national economy by adding value into it;
    8 ) allowing this foreigners to take what is rightfully for the bumiputeras and thus causing them asking for more allocation;
    9) causing the judiciary, the police and the attorney to be dogs that serve their political masters;
    10) and much more.

    but are so adamant in striking off DSAI just because
    1) gomen says that he kowtow to IMF;
    2) some college dropout who went to Najib’s office and house in the wee hour of the morning to get a scholarship which he is not qualified at all, accuse him of sodomising…..

    funny…so funny all this ppl.

  82. Orang Utan says:

    BobbyNZ,
    So do u see my point? Unless u r a very willing partner there is no way d other person can sodomise u. Even Singapore have change their law to allow for such action beween willing adults. So what is the fuss about this rather unimportant issue.Even the blind can feel that all this saga is being coup up by d govt to buy time.However I think d next general election they r finish.

  83. mark says:

    Seems we are in the middle of one who is weak, one who wanted the chinese to leave and another who wanted to bath his keris in chinese blood. How la like this . Folks who voted for PR seem unhappy with their policies, BN seems unable to come to terms with their loss and get to work. Almost all politicians BN or PR seem to have a past that might not be favourable to some.

    So what do we do?

    If we are really serious about having a well governed country free from all the Bs and Bs’ers we and by that I mean we the people without the support of any party or leader should call on the King & the council of Rulers to outlaw all political parties. Let them elect competant individuals to manage respective ministries. Like any manager, their preformance should be reviewed annualy. A new set of mps and councillors too must be elected first showing a clean track record before they contest. This way all mps will be free of party control and agenda. Bills will be passed in a more democratic manner. The King can take on the role of PM as well since he only sits one 5 year term which should be rotated according to the current system.

  84. Menyalak-er says:

    Wah Susan and kawan2,
    A lot of shouting and screaming here la… very scary!
    Hey folks, i think none of us us can change our views until we all agree to a standard definition on Truth.
    I dunno about u guys but for me, Truth is:
    1. based on reality – something we can always count on- no trickery, deception, illusions or surprises;
    2. based on purity – absence of qualities that are harmful, inferior, free from imperfection;
    3. integrity in strength – to be able to withstand forces that shatter or break.
    Don’t intend to give a lecture on philosophy/theology etc.; but there is only ONE truth. There is no such thing as ‘Relative’ truth.
    Therefore no one can be neutral, except through lies, deception, confusion, inability to forgive, foolishness and ignorance etc. – i.e. all human frailities.
    To me taking stock of all that is going on; i choose “resistance” to Be-eND based on my view of truth.
    Can i do that? Meanwhile have a nice time…

  85. JOECOOL says:

    Actually we Malaysians should be ashamed of ourselves….we have power to act against the injustice and travesties committed by the ruling party and their associates but most of us just opt to stand aside and make a bit of noise…some of us even write beautiful and forceful words through the blog….BUT HOW MANY OF US ARE ACTUALLY STANDING UP AGAINST ALL THESE INJUSTICE & ABUSES openly committed by those in power…? Fellow Citizens, whether your ‘sanitized’ brains admit it or not we are already living in a Police State. Well, when the police & judiciary only serve to take orders from politicians from ruling party……can you call it democracy? Hypnotised for nearly 50 years by state controlled tv & press we have been turned into a non-functional creatures who only say Yes, Yes, Yes….. After the latest incident of the 15 police cars & the massive road blocks….i now am able to feel exactly what those poor, helpless citizens of the former East-bloc countries experienced…..for me ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! Its NOW time for the experts from the legal fraternity together with neutral, influential people like Lee Lam Thye, retired judges etc convene an emergency meeting to submit a powerful petition on behalf of the citizens to the Agong. And if they want me to join the thousands of others to walk with them to the Palace I WILL BE THERE!! As a Christian i know that for as long as we are fighting for the TRUTH, God will always be with us. Please lets save our country!

  86. Orang Utan says:

    BobyNZ,
    Any person who has d intention can obtain a person DNA by many means.Eg by saliva or drinking cup/glass. So once u have d other person DNA u can say whatever u want bcos surely the DNA will match his sample.

  87. Ganesan says:

    What Neutrality, for the past 50 years the government has only shown its populace not to be neutral. What do expect from citizenery when the powers to be behave in such unneutral way. we are product of what we learn from our leaders. The police who are to safeguard our interest will selective prosecute those the government does not like, similarly the judiariary will punish selectively and to talk about neutrality is total waste of time.+

  88. anti says:

    i know a lot of kl resident will thrown there anger towards the PR for helding the demonstration and hence the massive road block , is this the strategy by Bee ended ?
    2. the police could have better works to do than having to block the road nwday become police can be very easy , shacking there leg beside highway , having there kopi and observe the road block
    3pls let us know where is the secret info from ( ? rumour or fact ? from the net ?sorry , i just heard that pak lah peoples should not believethe net info ) can u see any single demonstrator in front the parliment ? not enuf with that … the police continuing with the unpopular act by blocking the road again this thursday . what the f$%&%ck !!our 625Rm rebate are just wasted with this massive waste of petro and most our precious time .
    4 OK , Even if there is a demonstration … which the bee endedparty will ruin our economy , hence scare away the investor .. right . Right AFTER winning the 2004 election , can u see any demonstation to against the gov ? but the economy is not much better , or i would say down spiraling with the continuing of corruption and cronysm , crisis justise sysmtem , flip flop gov policy ? so …. do we need a strong corrupted regime ? to whom that not reliased the fact malaysia`s economy is worsening regardless there is demonstration or not . All the people , or the demonstrator want is the CHANGE of poor management in this country.

  89. artemus22 says:

    It’s easy for common folks like us to judge between right and wrong, but once you’re in politics, greed begins to seep in and you’ll lose your sense of judgment. The more power you have, the more power you pine for. The more money you have, the more your desire grows. For example, you anti-government bloggers out there, say someone were to come to you and offered you a million ringgit to counter attack all those negative comments about the government and say all the nice juicy things about the government (like the main stream media), would you take or leave it? I bet many of you would grab the offer. Why? Because people don’t do as they think, but what benefit them, the same with many of our politicians, police, judges and etc. today. Only those who are honest to himself/herself are true leaders, but sad to say, their numbers are few.

    I came from a political background. As a child, I was raised by my grandmother. Whatever gifts or toys that people brought me, my grandmother would give them away to the poor children behind our house. Most of those gifts and toys came from my own father, but I was not allowed to accept them. My grandmother didn’t want me to grow up to cultivate this habit of accepting bribes from anyone, including my close family members.

    Now I’ve grown up and I’m involved in social work. People are so grateful to me for helping them. Some brought me gifts and others wanted to elect me to this and that committees, but I declined all of them. My life is simple, my needs are few. With no greed in my heart, I get to stand for the truth.

  90. Oh man….the F word is the first word Malaysian learn when they learn english. I am sad to see actually some Malaysian think it’s cool to use it. I was in Vietnam airport, saw bunch of Malaysian kids talked very loudly #(#*&$(*@(@*#& in Cantonese, oh, this is really the quality of people we have now?

  91. Orang Utan says:

    I think d govt has make a mistake in hiring a local producer & director for the sodomee episode. They should have hired John Wu of brokeback Mountain.
    D hero should not be a six footer. He should be a short and very weak guy so it will be more realistc.I think the govt is still in the black & white era where all film r produced in black & white. The audience can see a string attached to the object flying around.

  92. GOOD POINT SUSAN ! well done.

  93. Orang Utan says:

    Chang Jiang Hao,
    I dont know where r u from. However the four letter word r borrowed from Hong Kong & America.

  94. Jsss says:

    Of course UMNO nuts are corrupted but the king of corruption is MAMAK Mahathir so now the sons follow fathers footstep maah!!!!!!!!!!

  95. Orang Utan says:

    Chang Jiang Hao,
    I recommend u watch any latest uncensored US film I can gurantee u that the four letter word ‘F..K U” were being spoken more that a dozen in any film. So why pick on Malaysian only?

  96. Orang Utan says:

    Chang Jiang Hao,
    So dont condeme others.Watch out fro yr own children, they can b far worse than the Malaysian children behind yr back.

  97. RKP says:

    Qoute :b. “Quite a number have complained being sodomised by him. Some have
    complained to Dr M. One of them told me personally. The latest case is of
    interest”. by bobby NZ

    Did anyone complain to the same Dr.M that most of his men are all corrupt,swindlers of public money,that he himself gives all the financial backing to his cronies with public funds,that the public servants under his charge are abusing their powers,the poor are neglected and the rich are becoming corruptly richer,the judiciary is no more trustworthy, that the politicians under him were having good times with wine,women and wealth and so forth..

    Common, we the rakyat of Malaysia knew all these things that were happening then.We were quiet to see how far these things will go…This is how far it will go ! No more than this. How come Dr M did not answer to anyone of these complaints but only to ones about Anwar.That also the rakyat knew.

    If Dr. M was careful enough to ‘check’ on his men and himself then, we won’t require ‘checks and balances’ today. Anyway, every country needs ‘checks and balances’ on the ruling govt. or else as human as we are, with a sinful nature inside all of us,no matter who we are in position, we can still be tempted to err in our ways.Exercising self control in everything should be our training and practice daily.This is what i have learnt in life,the hard way.

    Even in a ordinary football match which Malaysians are mad about,there is two sides to the game.One team a proponent and the other,the opponent.There is a ‘higher body’ appointed referee in between them to decide the game is played fairly.Isn’t it fun to watch them compete professionally on the field. Now what happens when there is ‘match-fixing’. It becomes a disgust to everyone,including the spectators right? Its the same thing here.

    Why are Malaysians showing disgust at the political scene,now? Because,there is outright foul play.The question is: who will blow the whistle here for the rough and unfair game to stop? The ‘spectators are getting fed-up.

    Let there be a fair game to all,spectators and players.I think instead of highlighting one another’s mistakes can we see a fully changed scene.
    A fair ‘game’.

    Can we have for once, Anwar Ibrahim to be the captain of the peoples favorite
    team and see him in action with his new team(PR) play a fair game with the opponent team(BN).And if Anwar fails to captain the team to victory in the international and local scenes, we can still opt for the opponent team next time.And it will continue on through our children ,grandchildren,great grandchildren’s and many more generations in this fashion.

    Meanwhile,can we Malaysians unite and respect each other as we are so that we be good examples for our children and grandchildren.Thanks MALAYSIA!

  98. Su says:

    I remembered being told that the elephant’s nemisis is the mouse. Some thing about the mouse able to kill the elephant by going into it’s ear ( can’t recall the details ). So the mouse is actually not as helpless as it seems on the surface.

    Where we stand should be based on the truth! The question is what is the truth? Things does not seem clear at the moment.

  99. anti says:

    wanna rise few questions
    1. if the semen sample from saiful rectum match Anwar DNa , is that prove anything ? he ( saiful ) could have privately colleceted the sample while anwar doing his business ( who know he got DIY )??so . we cannot rule out there is possibilities of semen sample purposely inserted .
    2. there is a serious warning to all the guys who DIY , ur semen could have make u a serious charge like rape case .pls take care ur semen and keep it properly , the used condome pls disposed it with safe .hahaha..
    3. The charges must not only proove with DNA , it shows our home minister`s legal knowledge is too shalow ..

  100. two-face says:

    Kesava & Sunwayopal

    Anwar is not corrupted? Do you think Azmin is a saint? Go and check their bank accounts and see where all the millions came from. Definitely not as private secretary. Don’t be naive, this is poitics lah.

  101. TheWrathOfGrapes says:

    /// Orang Utan (12:07:21) :

    BobbyNZ,
    So do u see my point? ///

    Orang Utan – I hope you ram your point into BoobyNZ’s bottom. He’s still sore after all these years – wow much have been a traumatic experienced for him to be sodomized.
    🙂

  102. Orang Utan says:

    anti,
    Let’s discuss about the d physical & practical aspect of sodomy.If a person who has undergone back surgery and five feet plus try to rape & sodomise a young six footer do u think it possible? First he has to undress him.Mind u a man ‘s trouser with belt on is not eay to take off. Then he has to turn & hold on to his back & mind u the rectum hole is very tight & small. The person being sodomised must not even move. Then he has to apply a lot of jelly or else his penis might break. So do u think it possible without his consent?

  103. chaptokam says:

    Dear All,

    The world is But A BIG STAGE ,We are all actors in this big stage .
    We are were chosen to be born here in Malaysia .
    Be thankful with what we have .
    Be thankful that we were not born in Iraq, in Uganda , in ziimbabwe , in palestine, etc etc.
    It is also that we are not born equal , our fingers are also not the same length
    Our parents might not love all their children equally
    Our own brothers and sisters might not have the same life as one another
    We should be thankful to be born perfect , not cacat.
    Doesn’t mean that if we are born in the garden of Eden we have no woes
    I feel in view of all these we should make the best of our own lives .
    It is destined that we should all go thru our lives with some hardships .
    It is also destined that we should come out better persons after going thru these .
    So stop complaining , stop condemning , all you see are happening are but a stage show with you as one of the actors and the one up there directing .
    Everyone has their role to play .

  104. Orang Utan says:

    chaptokam,
    So yr opinion is that we should bear whatever it is being thrown at us? That we should continue to let our children & grandchilren suffer?

  105. LeeZ says:

    two-face,

    no i don’t think everyone here would think that they (Anwar and Azmin) are saints… but at least, for now, what all of us can see (unless the person is blind or ‘buta hati’) is that they are not the ones who are stealing and spending away most if not ALL of our country’s wealth!!!!

    and yes, I am tired of ALL these dramas, but for now, all i want to see is that the BN is OUT of our country!!!!

    so, you know which side i am on now…

  106. RKP says:

    I don’t think you will be able to find a saint for the post of a politician.I don’t think they would want that job.They would rather stay in their santuary and not get defiled by ‘dirty’ politics.

    Why not give the opposition a chance to prove their worth, for we have seen the performance of the proposition enough.Lets together see what the oppositon can do for the country.Its a challenge.

    If the opposition also fails us with their swindling and corrupt practices,than Malaysia would be like what Pakistan is today-void of leadership.

  107. The quotation from Desmond Tutu is just right!!!

  108. Scott Thong says:

    “All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.” – Edmund Burke

    “Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” – Thomas Mann

    From « Excellent Sandmonkey Posting: Why Obama Will FailAhmad Shabery vs Anwar Ibrahim Debate on Oil & Economic Policies »Associated Press Journalist Gleefully Dreams of Pulitzer While Terrorists Murder Women in Front of His Rolling Camera

  109. Scott Thong says:

    Bad html. Meant to say,

    “All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.” – Edmund Burke

    “Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” – Thomas Mann

    From Associated Press Journalist Gleefully Dreams of Pulitzer While Terrorists Murder Women in Front of His Rolling Camera

  110. TIPAHMakeUp says:

    Barisan Nasional (BN): let’s face it y’all, BN is packed with the old school, bull shit “kopitiam” Malay dudes who use Islam and “Bismillah” (In the name of God, Allah Almighty) to push their OWN political agenda and “F-up” twisted mind of democracy! Thank the Lord, the Rakyat is more educated nowadays and has spoken their mind! The recent election speaks for itself urging for CHANGE & REFORMATION! Bravo to you, the Rakyat of Malaysia!!! CHANGE will better your (already messed-up) country and your own people! Importantly, CHANGE will help Malaysia understands as to how they are being perceived by the world! SAY “GOOD BYE” to the BN bitches! MOVE-OVER PKR dudes!!! These are all good!!! Bring me higher!!! Fierce!!!

  111. orange says:

    stand on the side of pandai and not bodoh la! obviously one of the main problem here is that there are a lot of dumb people making fart decisions resulting in shit actions. just take the example of this latest DNA issue. what the heck is DNA sample good for if the supposed rape victim makes himself available for all sorts of tests, weeks after the alledged incident? he would have by then obliterated any credible traces. and lets just say for arguements sake that there were traces found, cannot compare with the stuff they took off DSAI years back? DNA can change over the years is it? all this hoohah about getting new samples is dumb and they would just probably use it to plant as evidence anyway. CSI is purely tv and entertainment – the gomen should try using more credible methods than simply using tv series as guide. they take us for fools?
    besides, accusing someone of sodomy to gain points is plain lame. i’d take more notice if they could prove that DSAI is a dumb dumb like the rest of the gomen goons. don’t know about everyone else but my simple wish is not to have morons with collective iq under 120 running the country.

  112. roy selvan says:

    God provides choices and challenges. Some people fear challenges thus practice cowardice (an Evil choices). God emotionally punishes these people and also emotionally punishes those who allow themselves to be the victim. Unfortunately children have little choice in this scenario. Their potential in life will be reduced. This is still one of the God’s challenges that man has not solved. The challenge here is for man to create understanding so that these children are not harmed. Also to catch the Cowards that do evil against society and induce behaviour changes(read incarceration). Remember Man is expected to do his part. Do not expect God to do everything. If God did everything, life would be boring and not worth it, there would no longer be a challenge.

    People that are cowards are not willing to accept responsible challenges. They are only willing to participate in challenges that do not include responsibility, as this is easy. It only takes a match in the case of an person committing an evil actions of burning buildings – arsonist. They think that this gives them power. Walking takes more intelligence and mastery than setting a building on fire; even a 2-year-old can walk. The exceptional evil in the case of a person who commits this evil action is that they, in many cases, inflict emotional scars that can last a lifetime. People who use a Computer to inflict damage also practice cowardice. These people are commonly called Hackers, they do require intelligence and knowledge. These people do not realize that their evil actions do not create, but only destroy. People who inflict evil actions by creating a virus for example not only destroy, but also in the case of some individuals can cause bankruptcy and/or create emotional scars that may last a person’s lifetime.

    People who inflict these evil actions create destruction to fulfill an emotional need, as do arsonist, emotional predators and bullies. Cowards will always take the easy way. If you can cause these people to understand how God punishes (read God’s Structures) in this life, then those who create destruction, may recognize and understand their emotional problem and be willing to take the challenge to deal with it. People who take this evil action, are not willing to take the responsible challenge of the real world, to create a product that man needs and is willing to buy. If they do, not only will man reward them but God will also emotionally reward them.

    Cowards by their very nature participate in Evil action.

    The Potentially the most Dangerous Human is the Coward. The coward must operate in the shadows (as does evil) as he/she is without courage. They learn to hide or align themselves with like-minded people and form gangs/Corporatons. If they do not join gangs then they must disguise who they are because, if friends or acquaintances knew what they were capable of doing to them. They would either shun or drive them away or do whatever is necessary to remove them from their life in order to protect themselves from harm. You will be emotionally punished if you allow yourself to be a victim. God will emotionally punish you for not making responsible choices above and beyond the damage that the perpetrator does to you.

    You may have an opinion that your acquaintance may disagree with and not say so due to business interests. This is not a coward.

    A coward when hearing an opinion that he/she disagrees will say nothing as they feel, you would put them down if they disagree or they may be made to look ridiculous or you would no longer be their friends. This emotionally crippling problem was probably inflicted upon them as a child by one or both of their parents.

    A man or a woman that would hit another because they fear the challenges of life is a coward. This is common in men that hit their girlfriend/wives. They are fearful of life and compensate by beating their mate to show their bravery; instead it only shows their cowardice. Take note: beware that some women will bait a man to hit them for a profit, either monetary or emotional.

    A bully is another example of a coward. Bullies (Cowards) by their very nature are fearful of life (challenges), so to compensate, they will find someone that they may injure without any real threat to themselves so they may feel good about themselves. Without a victim they feel inadequate. They must find a victim. This attitude is usually a result of a cowardly parent.

    Cowards either large or small in stature will frequently travel in-groups not only for protection but to enable them to participate in finding and creating a victim or several victims simultaneously. Running in packs makes it difficult to prove which one committed the crime. Further it allows the individual bragging right within the Group without fear of criminal charges.

    Cowards (emotional cripples) that disguise themselves will always find someone to attach him or herself. This allows them a type of protection or a chance of living vicariously. They will usually do poorly in life. If they appear to do well, it will be by thievery of some nature. God will emotionally punish them in this life. God’s emotional punishment may not be evident to those who do not understand the Living Word of God. Man also must physically punish in a manner that is clear to society. Man must also provide emotional teaching for this person, physical punishment is insufficient to return this man to society as a healthy individual. Man must eliminate Lawyers confidentially rights, thus allowing illumination of evil, thus making catching and proving a crime in a court of Law more viable. I do not see such a structural change at this time in history, nor is their any emotional counseling built into the justice system.Cowards (bullies) in schoolyards are a common malady. They will commonly travel in-groups of three or more and will attack children that are new to the school, as the new children will have made no friends yet, therefore make safe targets. Children that are different or awkward make good victims as they also have few friends.

    Another characteristic of Cowards is that they will do whatever it takes to attain the highest position of power in an old Structure or mature Company, allowing them a wider selection of victims or a greater number of victims or perhaps just greater protection while victimizing. Take note; one has to be in a position of power to victimize. They will not try to work their way up in a new Structure or new Company, as this requires accepting responsible challenges and creativity. Cowards (emotional cripples) rarely have these qualities.

    Cowards who play the part of Bullies frequently came from homes in which at least one of the Parents is an Emotional Predator.

    Another characteristic of Cowards is to act as an Emotional Predator. See Sermon on Emotional Predators and the Sermon “Family Violence”

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  113. AHoo says:

    Very interesting comments thus far ! To sit on the fence and watch the drama pass by is just too passive lah. We are facing real hard times ahead in the months to come and a trus blood malaysian, you heart and mind would have lead you to the side that you know is just.

    Forget about RPK’s and Anwar’s for the time being. For 50 years or so, tell me are you still in denial that this nation needs drastic change ? Can we still stay neutral and watch those corrupted continue to plunder this nation’s coffer with impunity ? Show me someone that are connected with the power that be and are caught or charged for corruption ? Those that are caught are obviously in disagreement with the power that be. Can we continue to live with uncertainty and selective prosecution ?

    Let’s not be implusive in decision but think of what will happen if all the good men remain neutral and let the evil ones take hold of this nation. Do something, do anything that’s within your control and the confine of the laws for the good of the future generations. As for me, migration is out as I’m born here and will die here. I know what I should do and I’m not going to sit on the fence and stay neutral, cannot lah after 50 years of plundering, they still want exclusivity to the pie.

    We just need good man to manage the country and they can be from any political parties. Najlis past can be forgiven but clear your case first in a court with just judge not political appointee, Pak Lah seems nice and fine but show that you can lead and manage this country not after 5 years still undecisive and need help from young turks !!! Until we can have a judiciary that is independent and the setting up of IPMC to look into the abuses of the police force, I’ll continue dreaming that this nation will be return to its sanity one day.

    If we allow those who are corrupted to continue doing so, someday in the very near future, there will be many poor malaysians living around the city in and around KL and mind you, there are malaysians not foreign beggars. Let’s hope that it will not lead to that day but then the govt of the day must change their altitudes. Be accountable as we know the billions that was supposingly saved during last year’s petrol hike ….. where is the money ??? Now, many billions saved in view of drastic petrol hike ….. where is these savings going to ? Maybe those billions are so desparately needed by our bros’ in the east and have now swim across to save them from jumping ship. Can we stay neutral ? No way ! Just do what you need to do and stand up against injustices and surely good sense will prevail as God has certainly not abandon us as this nation is unique without calamity of nature. Love this nation and stand up for it not sit and watch and let the evil ones destroy it right under our nose.

  114. wits0 says:

    Susan: “..un-bias, fair, bla, bla, bla…”

    Too much water has flowed under the bridge for too long to resort to inane platitudes pretending towards a moral highground out of the real context with a situation at hand. Political correctness is an insidious disease of the brainwashed and the mentally cowed.

  115. Jsss says:

    Khairy is the next versation of the famous former menteri kerjaraya “Samy.” What I mean is….bla..bla…blaa.. Hope you guys got it.

  116. Ravindran Kunjan says:

    I stand for REFORMATION!!! Enough of those lies, rascism, discrimination, cronyism, nepotism, corruption, play acting, racial bias, irrational governance, selective double standard prosecutions and undemocratic administration of the fanatical, sore loser UMNO/BN government. We had the chance to throw them out on March 8, but sceptism deluded many……. now we have to face the reality of unjust rule.

    Some say truth is important!! Human beings by nature are sinners; Man is a faust and expects the ideal utopia….but it is an impossibility. An ideal solution will be to reform and have stringent checks and balances ie IPCMC; ICAC, Independent Judiciary and Attorney General, to bring about just and fair rule. Prosperity is not designed for one particular creed but for all.

    Our nearest conduit pipe for such reformation is DSAI & PKR. A two party system will create a more responsive, rational and productive rule with balanced development in all areas. Mutual understanding and compromise will ensure a Malaysian Identity, if not, a Malaysian race.

    We have seen the “horrors” of Mahadey Kutty’s 22 year rule. We had been taken for a ride in all aspects ie equality, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, draconian laws that disrespects human rights, freedom to live with harmony, peace and tranqulity.

    Please ponder on this for the best posible future.

    God Bless us.

    Ravindran Kunjan

  117. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan
    So yr opinion is that we should bear whatever it is being thrown at us? That we should continue to let our children & grandchilren suffer?

    Nope I don’t mean that , what I am saying is that change as we want it depends on our capability to effect that change for our livelihood and our quality of life .
    in fact in all religions it is said god help those who help themselves , in Buddhism it is effected by our own actions which is term cause and an effect or reaction takes place . In other words our lives are entirely determined by us ourselves. We effect the changes .

    We are not in a position to effect the current spat between Anwar and the polis /Govt/ Pak Lah . What I am saying is nobody cares what we write or comment here . Maybe some comments will be noted but this is merely to let us let of steam otherwise we will be blown off by our own C4 . These people already have their own private agenda unknown to us and they are having their sequel being played out among themselves . The end story we still do not know how it is ending , perhaps god is directing from up above and god should know how its ending . We are merely spectators in this case as we are not in a position to effect a change ie to get Anwar and the govt to settle the issue . We shall not be made use off as tools by them .

    We are in a position to effect a change by way of the democratic process which god has given us . This is by itself the change that will see our children and grandchildren see better days ahead . Humans evolved no matter what condition to adapt to those conditions and for our children we can do a lot for them but I wouldn’t worry about our grandchildren because what sort of conditions that will exist during their time nobody knows. We may leave them with millions , what becomes of it after we are gone nobody knows . Like what the Chinese use to say , won’t go thru three generations .
    But we can as I say effect change thru the ballot box . We have given the PR the chance to govern five states . This is the time for them to change whatever is deem not right in their states . We have also denied the BN two thirds majority . We have actually denied them the right to change and pass laws as they please . We have put in enough Opposition MPs to effect changes in Parliament . We have seen matured parliamentarians in other countries like England voicing out and fighting for their people’s betterment . Unlike them we have the opposition instead of doing just that , we have them passing vote of no confidence on the PM , enticing frogs to lompat , dramas being played out in and out of parliament .This is what i detest . When will they start to get down to do what is required of them ?? to effect changes the proper way ?? I think I have to stop here . To me these people are just a bunch of monkeys .

  118. nikmj says:

    being neutral is to be in the middle and not try to middling with other peoples affair because once you do you already infringe other people rights to be which means you no longer have a right to do so already … so visit my site lah http://www.nmjnh.wordpress.com🙂

  119. Orang Utan says:

    roy selvan’
    I think yr sermon is too long & boring.I think only the govt dept staff r interested bcos they have nothing much to do.

  120. Orang Utan says:

    Ravindran K,
    Totally agreed with u. However there r some who disgree like BobbyNZ & Ayoyosamy.

  121. wkp says:

    The very foolish police force listened only to rumours that caused a massive jame on Monday(14.7.2008)

    BUT they didn’t trust the words of DSAI and his laywers who assured and confirmed and that Anwar was sure turn up at the police HQ by 2.00pm.

    Who is more professional??

    And the idiot Hamid was absented mind in telling the world that DSAI might not be going to the police HQ after the ACA meeting with Anwar. Hamid, the idiot fool was thinking that Anwar was going by another way instead of heading to the police HQ. What please tell me is there only ONE way to go to the HQ!! What a clever fool. Hamid is!!

    Haven’t you heard about that all roads lead to Rome in ancient times. NOW we are living in the 21rst century, don’t tell me there is no other way going to the police HQ.

  122. Arumugam says:

    I would like to be open mind with the situations and seeing the best in every steps reforms form the current situation happen in our country. AAB is letting the country to reform like the citizens always wanted and his openness has lead to weakness in his line-up cabinets administrating the country.

    The openness of democracy like the citizens and the opposition party always wanted had lead to chaos and arguments like cats and dogs. Perhaps this is the requirement in order to make reforms in the country for a better country.

    I am siding on either party, but am just agreeing in each party that contributes the best and the most for the our needs and the growth of our country.

  123. Help him … he is only 24 and has a BRAIN TUMOUR and needs 40 000 euro for the brain surgery in Hannover, Germany … please watch this Youtube movie made for him… maybe we can help him from dying: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYsm20XbGXI

  124. rao says:

    Why is it that Malaysia is always in the limelight for the wrong reasons. Anyways Pak Lah is not out of the woods yet as the Iraqi Government plans to sue firms and individuals involved in making the illicit payments. Below is a report on the link between Mastek and the scandal.

    PM & The Oil for Food Scandal

    http://bangmalaysia.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/oil-for-food-scandal/

  125. rao says:

    Puravalen is the third lawyer to have been summoned by the police in the span of one week for questioning in relation to private investigator P. Balasubramaniam’s two contradictory statutory declarations (SD) on the murder case.

    He said he had been served a notice yesterday afternoon to meet the police at 10am to have his statement recorded.

    Americk Singh Sidhu, the lawyer who prepared Balasubramaniam’s first SD, was the first to be questioned last Friday, followed by N. Surendran, lawyer to R. Kumaresan, nephew to the missing detective, last Saturday.

    Surendran, who was also present today, told reporters that police had kept him for one-and-a-half hours.

    “They asked me where Bala was. But they already know (the answer). So they want to know what we know. And why is that? I can only conclude that they have something to hide.”

  126. BobbyNZ says:

    Just a repeat for those who miss my points:

    I am apolitical but this person called Anwar Ibrahim, former DPM and Finance Minister should never become PM of Malaysia for 3 reasons:
    a. He betrayed his countrymen in 1997 by legalising short selling of currency
    and stocks to facilitate the attack of the CROOKS to destroy the livelihoods
    of Malaysians. This was covered up with massive propaganda by the crooks.
    b. Quite a number have complained being sodomised by him. Some have
    complained to Dr M. One of them told me personally. The latest case is of
    interest.
    c. He demonstrated no leadership quality during the “financial attack”. Instead
    he took a trip to the land of the CROOKS, got a red carpet welcome and a
    tour of the Pentagon. His friendship with the CROOKS is evident to this day.

    Cheers!!!

    BobbyNZ

  127. Kim says:

    Sodomy or Doremi?? Don’t really care. What goes around comes around. Let them taste their own medicine. Damn the roadblocks and waste of ppl’s money. Where’s the priority? Gomen and PDRM nothing better to do than creating drama and hardships to struggling ppl trying to earn a decent living. Malaysia has never been so infamous. The whole world is laughing at us. God bless the innocent.

  128. rao says:

    In 1998-1999 trials, Anwar experienced the phenomenon of fabrication of DNA evidence. We had SAC Rodwan illegally removing DNA samples from forensic custody. In cross-examination of the prosecution’s witnesses it was exposed that DNA taken from blood samples was planted on the infamous mattress.

    When confronted with this fact the prosecution amended its charge and persuaded the judge, Augustine Paul (now Federal Court judge), to expunge the entire DNA evidence from the record, preventing Anwar Ibrahim’s lawyers from responding.

    The persons who were implicated in the fabrication of evidence during Anwar’s 1998-1999 trials, namely (attorney-general) Gani Patail, (police chief) Musa Hassan, and Rodwan (Mohd Yusof) are the same players who are involved in the current case. Today they are in much more powerful positions within the law enforcement apparatus.

    Anwar has even more reason to believe of the probability that DNA evidence will be fabricated once again. This is reasonable because the complainant remains in police custody since June 28, 2008 and the police are also in possession of Anwar’s DNA from the earlier case. Our client’s concerns are therefore not resolved, as Syed Hamid believes, by his handing over a DNA sample through his own doctor or through an international forensic expert.

    http://malaysiakini.com/news/86373

  129. rao says:

    The allegation that he was stripped naked, however, was denied by hospital authorities who also claimed he was not “measured”.

    A hospital official said all those brought in for rape of sodomy cases were given due respect and examined in a professional manner in keeping with the code of medical conduct.

    “At all times, due respect is given to ensure that the patient’s decency is not violated,” the official told the New Straits Times.

    Now, enters the third version. This is from Anwar’s lawyer and the MP for Subang, R Sivarasa, and I quote Malaysiakini:

    “That statement is false,” said R Sivarasa in a press conference today, referring to a New Straits Times report which quoted hospital authorities as denying that Anwar was stripped naked and measured.

    A reprise of the 1998 debacle?

    http://www.jeffooi.com/2008/07/stripped_and_measured_another.php

  130. focus says:

    I sometime wonder how could it be that so many pple are more interested / easily distracted / surprisingly agitated in what goes on in other people ‘backyard’ (if really it happened’ ) more so, than reacting to the fact that you have just been robbed / burgled by thieves coming from the front door . What’s more important ?? U decide

  131. Orang Utan says:

    BobbyNZ,
    Rather than talkcock, if u can provide a logical & practical explanation to my questions and convince me with yr answer than I will turn 360 degree and fully supoort u in whatever u say.OK?
    1. How is it possible that a 61 yr old man with previous back surgery and back pain can subdue a bull like a 23 yrs old six footer before being raped & sodomised?
    2.How is penetration possible when the anus hole is so small and tight when the poor victim is struggling about?
    Just explain to me how the above is possible?

  132. Khairy Kemulutin says:

    Existing DNA sample is old, says PM
    Jul 18, 08 7:37pm
    The authorities require a fresh DNA sample from Anwar Ibrahim because the sample extracted 10 years ago is old, said Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi today.

    I laugh at this… DNA is not fresh fish lah Pak lah! You understand what is DNA kah?

    How about the last time you explain about Blue Ocean … something to do with Palm Oil?

    Come on lah Pak Lah.

  133. Khairy Kemulutin says:

    The quote is from Malaysiakini…sorry to give credit

  134. roy selvan says:

    Thanks. Some like burgers some like a full meal. Its choices that we make.You have a choice. Skip the comment or read it.Have a nice day.

  135. sunwayopal says:

    “””””””””””””two-face (13:39:26) :

    Kesava & Sunwayopal

    Anwar is not corrupted? Do you think Azmin is a saint? Go and check their bank accounts and see where all the millions came from. Definitely not as private secretary. Don’t be naive, this is poitics lah.””””””””””””””””

    Eh DUNGOO!!!! I am not saying DSAI is not corrupted!!! Are you saying then that Najis Razak, Badawi, his SIL, Nazri, Kerimuddin are NOT???? They are lining their pockets now!!

    The difference if you will care to notice is this!!!! If ever DSAI becomes our PM, he will have to do it with a coalition with DAP and PAS and this is the MOST PERFECT check and balance we will have coz if any of these party breakout, the whole Pakatan falls apart, you think they will want that?

    So, we have nothing to fear from PAS, if they get extreme, DAP just walks and we hand the Govt back to BeeEnd. This is the true check and balance!!!

    Now , what happens??? Come on Rakyat, UMNO and people like Najis Razak, Mad Hathir is robbing the country blind!

    And the rakyat is being told all these lies about DSAI and 20 years ago what he did!!!!!

    With this coalition, he cant do it, he will stay true!!!!!

  136. Gan says:

    I surely know where I stand !

  137. sklee says:

    One cannot be nuetral in the present situation.It is obvious some “planning” have been done by somebody.The stake is very high indeed, and that somebody has to take such an action as he has no choice.”Its either him or me….and it is better for me that it is him!”That somebody is talking about being politically dead!Guess who that somebody is?From what happen so far, public opinion is with DSAI.He represents the hope that Malaysia will one day become a modern democratic, multiracial country where everyone is treated equally and corruption is reduced to the minimum!We are not living in Tanah Melayu in medieval times! There should be no more talk about the so-called Malay Agendas.

  138. What a joke! says:

    HAHA.. joke of the day! Existing DNA sample too old, our PM really dumbass. No wonder our country ruined by UMNO dumbass, welcome to the Shaberry Dumbass club.

  139. gooeyglobs says:

    Hi BobyNZ, it is a good for you to read what was written by K.Bing in the letter’s column of malaysiakini.

    I am captivated by the perceptive ability of K.Bing who wrote “Why I believe Anwar is not guilty.” There is no doubt, your perception about what you have observed in Anwar’s case is excellent. I am sure many readers share your views but are unable to pen them concisely as you what you have done.

    I enjoy reading that article and looking forward to be more informed. Thank you borther.

  140. wits0 says:

    Page 5 (pdf):
    http://tinyurl.com/5o9tql
    q/
    “DNA samples that were thought too small or degraded
    7 DNA & Crime Victims What Victims Need to Know 8
    for testing at the time of the trial can now be analyzed.” u/q

  141. DARK KNIGHT says:

    THE BN GOVERNMENT HAS PLANTED BOBBYNZ AND AYOYOSAMY AND NAJIB MANAKAU TO COUNTER TRUTHS WITH LIES!

    WE KNOW YOU ARE DESPERATE TO CHANGE THE NEGATIVE PERCEPTION ON THE BN GOVERNMENT!

    FOR PEOPLE LIKE THESE BUGGERS ONLY KNOW HOW TO LIE – AND THAT ABDULLAH BADAWI IS OUTRIGHT DISHONEST…

    WORDS HE UTTERED CAN CHANGE OVERNIGHT… LIES ABOUT TACKLING CORRUPTIONS BEFORE THE 2004 GENERAL ELECTIONS. UNTIL TODAY, HOW MANY HIGH PROFILE CASES HAVE BEEN SOLVED?

    NOW THEY SAY THE ACA IS TAKING ACTIONS AGAINST THE IMMIGRATION OFFICERS. LET’S SEE IF THEY THROW THEM INTO JAIL.

    NOBODY CAN TRUST THIS PRIME MINISTER ANYMORE!

  142. javgeek says:

    LOOK AT MADHATER Statement!!!

    “by claiming the probability of the allegation against Anwar is true because it is unlikely that the government will use the same allegation twice.”

    There, a blatant admission to be responsible for the first sodomy fabrication.

    WHY THE POLICE DO NOT ACT ON THIS SUBMISSION???

  143. Virgil Hart says:

    “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” (Desmond Tutu)

    I feel the analogy is rather poor. The mouse won’t appreciate your neutrality, but only because it doesn’t understand the basic, conceptual grounding of the idea of neutrality…

    On a more serious note, I disagree with the statement anyway, if you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have not chosen the side of the oppressor, as the oppressor, to you, is not an oppressor, you are objective in your neutrality, as such neither side is oppressing or victimising you, and you are essentially chosing the side of following short-term, positive outcomes, for yourself.

    There’s nothing wrong with that.

  144. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan
    1. How is it possible that a 61 yr old man with previous back surgery and back pain can subdue a bull like a 23 yrs old six footer before being raped & sodomised?
    2.How is penetration possible when the anus hole is so small and tight when the poor victim is struggling about?

    Anwar’s back surgery has obviously rectifed his slip disc condition which was giving him back pains . Similarly a guy who has a knee cap replacement thru surgery will undergo psychotheraphy within one week of operation and should be walking within two weeks . In other words Anwar back surgery should not be a factor now as the surgery was done a few years ago .

    As for subdueing a six footer , I feel he was never subdue . Imagine a guy who joined Anwar’s team gets promoted to his aide within three months is something to think about . I believed Saiful if you look at him carefully looks like a homosexual and I have reasons to believe that they were taking their time to enjoy it together and was never subdue and many were led to believe . If I am not mistaken there were as many as six or eight times . And this led many to question why Saiful only chose to report now and not the first time when he was sodomised . That is one question on everyone lips and only Saiful can answer that .

    On whether Anwar could still sustain a erection , should ask Chua SL as he is about the same age as Anwar . A 100 mg viagra should do it , it comes in various gm starting from 50,100,200and 500gm. Normal usage is aroung 50 to 100 for those still able to sustain an erection but not hard enough . This should be able to last for a few rounds .

    On whether penetration is possible when the anus is hole is small and tight . Assuming that Saiful is a virgin and the hole is small , yes the anus is small but it can expand as in the case when you are shitting hard stools . The hard stools when it comes out is roughly the diameter of the penis and it is hard and long . Of course it is tight and that’s where the pleasure comes from .
    Imagine the womans vagina , it can expand until the size of the head of the baby . Same explanation here . All it needs is some lubricant .

  145. once upon a time says:

    You know why they arrest Anwar and make him stay for the night? First they clean the cell and next morning they comb the cell for Anwar’s hair and plant it inside Saifu’s ass hole. The rest is history.

  146. DARK KNIGHT says:

    THE BN GOVERNMENT HAS PLANTED AYOYOSAMY AND BOBBYNZ AND NAJIB MANAKAU TO COUNTER TRUTHS WITH LIES IN THE CYBER WORLD.

    WE KNOW YOU ARE DESPERATE TO CHANGE THE NEGATIVE PERCEPTION ON THE BN GOVERNMENT!

    FOR PEOPLE LIKE THESE BUGGERS ONLY KNOW HOW TO LIE- AND THAT ABDULLAH BADAWI IS OUTRIGHT DISHONEST….

    WORDS HE UTTERED CAN CHANGE OVERNIGHT…LIES ABOUT TACKLING CORRUPTIONS BEFORE THE 2004 GENERAL ELECTIONS. UNTIL TODAY, HOW MANY HIGH PROFILE CASES HAVE BEEN SOLVED?

    NOW THEY SAY THE ACA IS TAKING ACTIONS AGAINST THE IMMIGRATION OFFICERS. LET’S SEE IF THEY THROW THEM INTO JAIL.

    NOBODY CAN TRUST THIS PRIME MINISTER ANYMORE!

  147. wits0 says:

    I never trust Desmond Tutu’s wisdom. He is not that rightfully wise.

  148. HELL WARDEN says:

    THERE IS SOMETHING VERY FISHY WHY THEY WANT ANWAR’S DNA…..THEY ARE GOING TO MANIPULATE IT AS MATERIAL EVIDENCE TO NAIL DSAI.

    I HEARD FROM THE TV INTERVIEW LAST NIGHT THAT BOTAK HAMID SAID THE OLD DNA SAMPLE WAS MANIPULATED. I HEARD VERY CLEARLY THE WORD MANIPULATED AND I COULDN’T BELIEVE MY EARS!

  149. goodtimepolitics says:

    Take Obama for a good example..he says one thing today and tomorrow another! He has lied to his supporters about pulling the troops out of Iraq! He lied to them about supporting the warrantless spy bill which he voted for! How can we vote for someone like that?
    Here is a song that will enlighten everyone!🙂
    http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/07/17/fla-billboard-reads-please-dont-vote-for-a-democrat/

  150. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan (19:03:43) :

    let me answer on behalf of the rest

    Anwar’s back surgery has obviously rectifed his slip disc condition which was giving him back pains . Similarly a guy who has a knee cap replacement thru surgery will undergo psychotheraphy within one week of operation and should be walking within two weeks . In other words Anwar back surgery should not be a factor now as the surgery was done a few years ago .
    As for subdueing a six footer , I feel he was never subdue . Imagine a guy who joined Anwar’s team gets promoted to his aide within three months is something to think about . I believed Saiful if you look at him carefully looks like a homosexual and I have reasons to believe that they were taking their time to enjoy it together and was never subdue and many were led to believe . If I am not mistaken there were as many as six or eight times . And this led many to question why Saiful only chose to report now and not the first time when he was sodomised . That is one question on everyone lips and only Saiful can answer that .
    On whether Anwar could still sustain a erection , should ask Chua SL as he is about the same age as Anwar . A 100 mg viagra should do it , it comes in various gm starting from 50,100,200and 500gm. Normal usage is aroung 50 to 100 for those still able to sustain an erection but not hard enough . This should be able to last for a few rounds .
    On whether penetration is possible when the anus is hole is small and tight . Assuming that Saiful is a virgin and the hole is small , yes the anus is small but it can expand as in the case when you are shitting hard stools . The hard stools when it comes out is roughly the diameter of the penis and it is hard and long . Of course it is tight and that’s where the pleasure comes from .
    Imagine the womans vagina , it can expand until the size of the head of the baby . Same explanation here . All it needs is some lubricant .

  151. chaptokam says:

    DARK KNIGHT (22:28:27) :

    Do you seriously think that all the people here are fools to believe what you say ?

  152. jeremy says:

    I stand in the breadline with the rest of my American friends.

  153. doggone says:

    MSM should be neutral.
    Austria and Switzerland are neutral.
    ‘Ground’ wires are neutal.
    Colors can be neutral.

    but..

    Saifool must be N E U T E R E D !!!

  154. amuruthamsujan says:

    today is simply beautiful to you

  155. flyer168 says:

    Dear Susan,

    Nice…you have very smartly put the challenge to your Blog commenters….

    What the Powers-that-be (individually and/or collectively) has achieved for this great nation, its reputation, etc & it Downtrodden rayaat is Criminal…maybe equivalent to Treason!

    With the Powers-that-be still in “Denial” & maintaining their “Auto-Pilot Self-Destruct” mode path there is nothing much more that our MPs, State Leaders, Aduns, Intellectuals, etc can do to change their “Paradigm”.

    Their motto has been, is still & will always be “Heads I win, Tails you Lose” for their own Personal agendas at the nation’s & rayaat’s expense using their Lapdogs to do the dirty work.

    Our “Defenders of Justice & Freedom” in their “Noble” pursuit, who have all suffered in one way or another will never give up their struggle for this great nation & for us citizens.

    So let us all stand UNITED, stay COOL & not fall for their “Barbaric” intimidations right into their “TRAP”.

    We just have to give them more rope to hang themselves at every turn !

    “Divine Intervention” works “Wonders”!

  156. kesava says:

    Branch doesn’t want to wait for two years. The largest Umno branch in the Pekan division in Pahang passed an emergency resolution today to nominate local boy Mohd Najib Abdul Razak as Umno President at the party elections in December.
    Kampung Ubai’s decision went dead against Umno President Abdullah Badawi’s offer to hand over the job to Najib in June 2010.

    Question is, will the other branches follow suit?

    Read Utusan Malaysia’s online report here.
    http://rockybru.blogspot.com/2008/07/najib-for-president.html

  157. wonder kid says:

    Aiya! Dear sloone, where do I stand is not the criteria but to dispose this satanic government and install a good and utopia government is the only chief and only aim for the rakyat.

    The setans in the satanic government must be gotten rid of and destroyed completely.

    That is where I stand and all the rakyat in Malaysia should join forces in achieving this chief aim.

  158. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan
    BobbyNZ,
    Rather than talkcock, if u can provide a logical & practical explanation to my questions and convince me with yr answer than I will turn 360 degree and fully supoort u in whatever u say.OK?
    1. How is it possible that a 61 yr old man with previous back surgery and back pain can subdue a bull like a 23 yrs old six footer before being raped & sodomised?
    2.How is penetration possible when the anus hole is so small and tight when the poor victim is struggling about?
    You don’t mind I answer on his behalf .
    Anwar’s back surgery has obviously rectifed his slip disc condition which was giving him back pains . Similarly a guy who has a knee cap replacement thru surgery will undergo psychotheraphy within one week of operation and should be walking within two weeks . In other words Anwar back surgery should not be a factor now as the surgery was done a few years ago .
    As for subdueing a six footer , I feel he was never subdue . Imagine a guy who joined Anwar’s team gets promoted to his aide within three months is something to think about . I believed Saiful if you look at him carefully looks like a homosexual and I have reasons to believe that they were taking their time to enjoy it together and was never subdue and many were led to believe . If I am not mistaken there were as many as six or eight times . And this led many to question why Saiful only chose to report now and not the first time when he was sodomised . That is one question on everyone lips and only Saiful can answer that .

  159. chaptokam says:

    On whether Anwar could still sustain a erection , should ask Chua SL as he is about the same age as Anwar . A 100 mg viagra should do it , it comes in various gm starting from 50,100,200and 500gm. Normal usage is aroung 50 to 100 for those still able to sustain an erection but not hard enough . This should be able to last for a few rounds .
    On whether penetration is possible when the anus is hole is small and tight . Assuming that Saiful is a virgin and the hole is small , yes the anus is small but it can expand as in the case when you are shitting hard stools . The hard stools when it comes out is roughly the diameter of the penis and it is hard and long . Of course it is tight and that’s where the pleasure comes from .

  160. chaptokam says:

    On whether Anwar could still sustain a erection , should ask Chua SL as he is about the same age as Anwar . A 100 mg viagra should do it , it comes in various gm starting from 50,100,200and 500gm. Normal usage is aroung 50 to 100 for those still able to sustain an erection but not hard enough . This should be able to last for a few rounds .

  161. chaptokam says:

    On whether penetration is possible when the anus is hole is small and tight . Assuming that Saiful is a virgin and the hole is small , yes the anus is small but it can expand as in the case when you are shitting hard stools . The hard stools when it comes out is roughly the diameter of the penis and it is hard and long . Of course it is tight and that’s where the pleasure comes from . All it needs is some lubricant .

  162. Hunk says:

    ““If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” (Desmond Tutu)” -Re-Quoted by Sloone

    The inference of the above message is clear if one does not misinterpret facts to substantiate their own conclusions.

    1st- it is the contents that matter rather than the speaker in this case Desmond Tutu, that it is ones obligation to stand by and for the weak, but at no time did Susan mentioned that one should support the weak when they are wrong.

    Was Daw Aung San Suu Kyii not weak when clearly the oppressors are strong?

    And if one talks about friendship, it is a genuine friendship when one helps, assist friends when they are in trouble but when a friend is working at a high ranking officer at the procurement (say Government) department and gives a sweetheart deal to another friend, that is not just friendship, that’s corruption!🙂

  163. ktteokt says:

    Staying “neutral” in critical times just goes to show the “lallang” attitude, fall in the direction where the wind blows! Teochew people call this “Sit where it is cool!”

  164. chand says:

    I think Najib DNA also should be taken as he was in the position of `Saiful Advisor` and could have taken advantage of the fragile Saiful and done harmful things to him.
    So Najib, where an SD already links him to enjoying buggering, should also be tested.

  165. Orang Utan says:

    Chaptokam,
    Let’s assume what u say is true. That means all this while it is mutaul consent btw the two of them.Singapore has already passed a bill to allow mutual consent btw adults. So what is the fuss about.U also seem to b very well verse in viagra I suppose u must b a regular user?

  166. Orang Utan says:

    Chaptokam,
    The question here is that why is that the Home minister & the PM is so concern about DSAI sodomy case but not other more important matter like allegation against the DPM.Payment of commission for sub deal is outright corruption.
    A case in point was the Lockheed scandal involving the previous Japanese PM. He was subsequently charged in court for demanding a certain commision to be paid before the comapny can sell the passenger planes to Japan.

  167. Orang Utan says:

    It is obvious that as long as the BN is still in power they will do whatever means to finish off their opponent. That is politics.Just look at Singapore. They never give a chance for their opponent to survive.They r talking as if their party is the only party that can rule Singapore all others r idiot.

  168. Aiyoo tambi says:

    Bunga rose merah,
    Bunga violet Biru,
    DNA sudah basi ,
    Jadi mau yang baru,

    Otak Udang, Otak Itik
    Banyak songeh semua orang tau,
    Generasi IT,genarasi savy ,masih yang bodoh macam lembu.

    Aiyoo macam ini kebelakangan lah Negara,
    Selalu cakap pasal main belakang,
    Rakyat di liwat semua orang tau,

    Mati One way ticket to Neraka……Bye Bye

  169. wasabi says:

    Righteous men will prevail as you can see from the past history. God hates the ways of evil people, but loves those who do what is right.

  170. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan

    Singapore has already passed a bill to allow mutual consent btw adults. So what is the fuss about.U also seem to b very well verse in viagra I suppose u must b a regular user?

    Well what you say is true , in fact I have posted a comment in MT calling for the legalisation of oral sex and sodomy as its between two consenting adults . However if you noticed there ‘s hardly any case involving non muslims . This is for the Muslims themselves to rectify their Syriah laws . Even if oral sex and sodomy is legalised here in Malaysia I doubt it would be for Muslims as they still have to follow their Islamic laws .

    Yes I have tried viagra before , you’ll be surprised !!! Its still strong even after two rounds . You should give it a try , I am willing to bet with you , you’ll never regret using it . like they say Keep Your Partner Satisfied .

  171. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan

    Chaptokam,
    The question here is that why is that the Home minister & the PM is so concern about DSAI sodomy case but not other more important matter like allegation against the DPM.Payment of commission for sub deal is outright corruption.

    Guess this is the current hot tropic in town and the for the international press corps as well and this is making Malaysia the talking point among the International community . So I guess they are concerned .

    On commission and kick backs that is for our elected PR’s MPs to bring it up in Parliament . Thats the place to whack them and force them to reveal all .
    You don’t expect them to talk about it outside Parliament , they have OSA and ISA , Parliament is the right place . The only problem is they ( PR MPs )are not
    bringing it up , instead they are more than interested to move a vote of no confidence on the PM which they know will never get thru and walking out . we elect them to rectify the abuses of the govt. not walking out . They the BN will be very happy everytime the PR boys do it . It has become a circus .

  172. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan
    2.How is penetration possible when the anus hole is so small and tight when the poor victim is struggling about?

    Pertaining to this question of yours . pls look for it in KTemoc blog’s under to DNA or not to DNA , its there . I have tried to post it here but somehow or other it refuses to post it here . Maybe Susan has a firewall that blocks out certain words . Also if you noticed I had to post my comment in two postings ie (08:32:45) :and (08:36:13) : . Originally in one piece tried three times ,no go so I had to split it up .

  173. Orang Utan says:

    Chaptokam,
    So u r on which side? BN or PR?. Myself I am all for PR. At least u know new broom sweep clean. After more than 50 yrs under BN is enough. They r getting worse intead of getting better. NEP should never b based on race. Eg if both d Indian & Malay are earning RM800/month & is considered under poverty level is it fair to help only d Malay?When the NEP is based on race the rich Malay will exploit for their advantage.

  174. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan (13:10:32) :

    Chaptokam,
    So u r on which side? BN or PR

    I am no neither side , however my whole family voted for PR for a change only to find these mess . I gave the DAP all the relevant points to slay them including pics of OKT and Hisha . I would like to see real change but I reserve my rights to critisise them if they go astray .

  175. To : Orang Utan says:

    I stand impartial but since there was a series of exchanges between Ms. Captokam and Orang Utan, I suggest the latter to change your self-depreciating nick.

    My 2 cents😉

  176. waswas says:

    There are people who put their dreams in a little box and say, “Yes, I’ve got dreams, of course I’ve got dreams.” Then they put the box away and bring it out once in awhile to look in it, and yep, they’re still there.

    read this blog, u’ll be will able to see “outside the box”

    http://masnoorwak.blogspot.com/

  177. waswas says:

    lol

  178. Jed Yoong says:

    Hey Susan,

    Another good thoughtful post.

    Well, I think before I can “make a stand”, we have to agree on whether there is such a thing as “good” and “bad”. In my view, it’s hard to evaluate anything as “good” and “bad” accurately because usually we will have limited information.

    For instance, you may say the NEP is “bad”. But to the Malays the Chinese were “bad” to them. So the NEP was a reaction to this “injustice”.

    I think “good” and “bad” depends on perception and are not hard and fast rules.

    Having said that, we then have to agree on what type of society that we want. Are behaviours like intimidation, lies, corruption acceptable?

    So when I “make a stand”, it’s not from a morality (good or bad) point of view but in the direction of a society that I wish to live in — not one that’s “fair” but one that will allow individuals to live to their full potentials in a community that is nourishing and safe.
    🙂

  179. Menyalak-er says:

    Yo Jed, what kinda answer is that?
    You mean to tell me that there are no absolute human moral & ethical values?Religious values? What is “societal values” then, pray tell?
    Or are you just mocking us with your own confusion?
    Don’t tell us that you don’t know what’s going down?
    It’s always about I, me & mine, isn’t it? Load of bull…
    Stand up and be counted for liberty, honesty, intergrity, parity etc. as much as your conscience allows – and decide. It’s as simple as that!
    Terribly disappointed with asinine “know-better-than thou” and condescending comments.
    Better go relearn stuff from sifu RPK > brook no evil.

  180. BobbyNZ says:

    Thanks Chaptokam for explaining on my behalf to that moronic Orang Utan whose nickname reflects his mentality. haha.

    Granted, components in the BN are corrupted. But the most corrupt politician in Malaysia Now is Anwar Ibrahim. His legalising short selling of currency and stocks in 1997 to facilitate a “financial attack” against the Malaysian economy and people’s livelihoods was the most corrupt act in Malaysian history. So he scores 10 out of a scale of 10. During Dr M’s premiership, while corruption was rife, economic progress was at an unprecedented pace. All of us had a big share of the economic pie. But this idiotic traitor, due to his impatience to be PM, let the foreigners took away our pies! Learn Einstein’s Theory of Relativity!

    Cheers

    BobbyNZ

  181. To : BobbyNZ says:

    Now, Orang Utan may have a self-incriminating name, but BobbyNZ is a lunatic who needs psychological pills and injections urgently.

    May God Bless Your Wicked Soul. Amen.

  182. chaptokam says:

    BobbyNZ

    Yep , I agree with your comments . I have been thru that too . I mean the issues and the stock market where a lot of people got burnt .

    Cheers and have a good day .

  183. Bidadari says:

    Earlier i posted a comment in Malaysia-Today.net (which were in support of the writer of the article) and within 8 hours, i received many many vote-downs and my comment was subsequently pulled off the postings with the message: “Comments deleted. Not relevant”

    So what if not every Rakyat supported DSAI’s or PKR’s slow progress and political rhetorics? I don’t think I’m the only Malaysian feeling the lack of lustre emitting from PKR’s leadership since March.

    Yes, I agree that to ‘overthrow’ BN is not an easy job, but those who commit to the Rakyat and take the plunge should not engage themselves in massive amounts of politicking alongside BN, that is if the Rakyat is the true motive of his strive. If DSAI thinks he can do it, then just do it for the Rakyat. What’s with the wait? First, we have to wait til May, then to August, then now to Sept 16. Next the deadline will probably be 25 December..

    And while everyone is thinking that it’s only been 4 months, let me remind you that DSAI was not born 4 months ago and neither were those who make up PKR. Whatever DSAI needed to plan, it must have been planned at least since 1998. And that’s not considering that way before 1998 even, this man has previously been a DPM and Finance Minister which means by now he should be a Grandmaster Politician (no wonder Shabery didnt stand a chance). With so much experience and information privy only to those that walk the Corridors of Power, what’s with the wait?

    The ugly accusations BN throws at DSAI should have just been brushed off easily without even a scratch isn’t it? Such a seasoned politician tamed by a 23 year old backed by a so-called useless government with kids on the 4th floor. Can they even be considered a threat to him?

    Tell you all what, let’s then just forget all this and have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year instead. If we keep waiting, then we might as well just all sit and wait til Badawi is done in 2010, if he’s ever done by then.

    And for those of you who only know how to frolic in childish demeanor and hammer anyone who is not totally agreeable to the route your ‘God’ is taking to save us all from Bodohwe, here’s your chance to vote me down.. again. But dont worry, i wont take it too personally nor reply with any unnecessary vulgarity that many Malaysians are adept to.

  184. wits0 says:

    Saturday, July 19, 2008
    KARPAL SINGH SAYS PRIME MINISTER DATUK SERI ABDULLAH AHMAD BADAWI SHOULD SHUT-UP AND NOT INFLUENCE POLICE INVESTIGATION

    (excerpts)

    “..Even the comments by the Prime Minister that the DNA samples are old, is out of context as experts say no change will take place in your DNA after many years…”

    “..the Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar said that the PKR de facto leader may have to stay overnight in custody. The first impression was the Home Minister was leading the investigation and not the Police. True enough, although the Police had agreed to release him the same day, at the last moment he was told he is being detained over night…”

    http://tinyurl.com/6mgweo

  185. Anwar's Aide says:

    OK LAH YOU ALL. STOP ATTACKING ANWAR CAN OR NOT! i ATTEST HIS PENIS ONLY 2 INCHES SO NO WAY HE CAN SODOMISE OK!!!!

  186. chand says:

    hee hee hee

  187. chand says:

    I have no pity for those losing money on the stock exchange. They contribute nothing but speculation in inflating stock values. Gambling addicts who when winning think they are the cat`s whiskers. When they lose the world owes them a living.

  188. Philip L.H. LIM says:

    susan,
    when & if you are looking for a career change don’t apply to be National Geographic photographer. you may kill the lion to save the antelope or kill the antelope to feed the starving cheetah depending on where you stand.

    anyway, enjoyed your blog,

  189. waswas says:

    chad

    dealing with investments on a fluctuating market is not gambling because there are predictable methods to investing and gaining in the stock market, while even the best gambler takes tremendous risk in what amounts to be a zero sum situation.
    It merely takes money from a loser and gives it to a winner. No value is ever created. By investing, we increase the overall wealth of an economy. As companies compete, they increase productivity and develop products that can make our lives better. Don’t confuse investing and creating wealth with gambling’s zero-sum game.

    Stockmarkets are not the place to make quick money. Ideally, you should invest money that you would not need in the next three years not what you have in the pocket or make personal loan or borrow from along.

    so..let us seek justice without gambling our dignity and future.

  190. chand says:

    waswas, all those boobiees ayoyos and so on could do with just a little bit of your education then they may be able to survive pitfalls.

  191. waswas says:

    Sad to say, but besides oil, the real culprit for the past few months for the downfall in the stockmarket has been DSAI.
    We know the truth, not only by the reason, but also by the heart. Most truths are so naked that people feel sorry for them and cover them up, at least a little bit.

  192. 2 cents says:

    i think BobbyNZ must have lost quite a bit of money in the stock/currency market back then. that’s why he is extremely sour until this day..

  193. gooeyglobs says:

    If anyone is going to believe Badawi saying that the IGP and AG are not involved in the new DNA procument from DSAI, then you believe at your own risk. He could be the mastermind himself to safeguard the chair he is sitting because DSAI is the pain in asses of those guilty to the core.

  194. waswas says:

    where is chaptokam? like to read his comments…

  195. wasabi says:

    Arrogant lips are unsuited to a fool-
    how much worse lying lips to a ruler!

  196. ExCIA says:

    It is our CIA’s opinion that this Anwar Ibrahim is a moronic asshole. Why? He wasted a lot of our time trying to help him become PM. Just when he is about to get there after all our hard work of holding “carrots” to those potential “MP switch overs”, his dick got mischevious. This DNA delay is to BN’s advantage as time delayed dampens everyone’s mood. At this juncture, we can only say “WHAT A DICK!”

  197. waswas says:

    When a man points a finger at someone else, he should remember that four of his fingers are pointing at himself.

  198. chaptokam says:

    waswas (10:42:39) :

    where is chaptokam? like to read his comments…

    Still around brother . Went out to buy viagra for someone to use . He’s got to keep his partner saisfied . Otherwise you know lah …… run ..off… to…..

    Hahaha have a nice day . will be posting .. need to rest me eyes .

  199. chaptokam says:

    waswas

    Warfare in this article .

    Anwar’s one day nightmare with the cops.

    Preoccupied there .

  200. chaptokam says:

    this the latest article posted by RPK in MT

    “It may cause internal injuries to the bone and brain,” Dr Muhammad Borhan

    “I can presume that the injuries were severe as the signs were still there after twelve days. I am not sure that the injuries are lethal, but they could be serious. It may cause internal injuries to the bone and brain.”

    I feel that internal injuries to the bone might not hold water , BUT internal injuries to the brain well I don’t quite buy the idea , however if it is injury to the brain yes that is very possible .

    I have seen people who had part of their brain removed due to tumour or accidents . they still survived , only that the human receptors like the hands , legs or other parts of the human body where the section of the brain which was removed controlled those parts, will be affected .

    The other reason why I said Anwar could not have suffered brain internal injuries or brain damage is that he does not show any symptoms of mental disorders and physical disabilities caused by mental disorders .

    However he does show some psychological change . The Anwar of today is totally different from the Anwar of yesteryears . Today he is full of vengence , something really burning deep inside , wants to get what he wants at all costs without due consideration for the welfare of Malaysians affected when two bulls lock horns , the grass underneath will all be trampled . You can see from his mannerism , his speech etc are all design to whip up public sympathy for him , as what RPK said cult culture but I wish to go further , worshipped like a god . He is so good at deflection that his problems are all caused by his enemies and he will create scenes whereby people will fall for it and believe that his enemies created all his problems .

    Another Hitler in the making ? Hitler commanded that sort of a charisma where people are willing to sacrifice for him and die for him . They would shout Heil Hitler at his photo , at the Nazi flag . They would even betray their next of kin to the Gestapo should they dissent .They believed he would rule the world . In the end , millions of Germans and people of other nations died in the believe that he was invincible . He too had to die in the end .

    This is exactly what is happening now .

    RPK also realised that and parted ways with him . I too have seen the real him behind his mask ..

  201. Orang Utan says:

    BobbyNZ,
    U couldn’t answer my question revealed that yr attack on AI is baseless and senseless.It only showed that yr belong to the govt. and that you r trying yr best to proctect them.It is obvious that they have to bring AI down bcos he is the only one that can unite the PR.That shows how important he is. Obviously u r part of the scheme I suppose.U r not even able to provide a logical explanation
    as to how a 61 yr old man can subdue a 23 yr old young bull.Obvioily v know who u r.

  202. Orang Utan says:

    BobbyNZ,
    Only an idiot can be influenced by u. U know those people in Tg Rambutan keep on repeating certain things.U have repeated short selling more than 100 times.

  203. Orang Utan says:

    BobbyNZ,
    On the other hand it is good to have u here or else the views of the majority is only one sided.At least u provide an alternative views. Not too bad.

  204. Orang Utan says:

    BobbyNZ,
    However can u pl provide some common sense in yr argument? I feel that that where u r lacking. I think d kindergarten/nursery school might be willing to consider taking u.

  205. Orang Utan says:

    My 2 cents,
    Tks for yr support. I just wanted to show that even an Orang Utan has far higher IQ than BobbyNZ. Bcos I think his mind can only think of “SS” i,e short selling.
    Poor guy!!. Sometime I felt a sense of pity for him.I think he drink ss, eat ss & sleep ss & even shit also ss. Hehe.

  206. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan and BobbyNZ,

    Let’s call for a truce , cease fire …………..

    Cheers and a wish you two a happy day , bless you …..

  207. HELLRAISER says:

    WE HAVE AYOYOSAMY, BOBBYNZ AND CHAPTOKAM AND THESE REGIME GOONS WHO LIKE TO LICK THE ARSEHOLES OF THOSE STINKING BN LEADERS! NOT ENOUGH TO JUST LICK THEIR BOOTS!

    THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW LONG NAJIB’S DICK IS TOO. WE KNOW HE LIKES ANAL TOO

  208. chaptokam says:

    Not to my standard to reply to small size brains , seven months premature deformed creatures from hell .

  209. Faceless And Nameless says:

    I pity the grievance of BobbyNZ if what you said about your hardluck that befalls on you is true. May I ask you a few questions at the FSZ3?

  210. Most of us are now distracted by DNA and Sodomy when the primacy of the issue is about ALTANTUYA + ROSMAH +NAJIB.The question in many peoples mind is …WHERE IS BALA ? Can anybody shed light on Bala’s whereabout ?
    It will be not surprising that Bala and family have absconded for good with new identities! What say you?

  211. gooeyglobs says:

    Hi friends, if Ayoyosamy, BobbyNz and Najib Manakau are from Cybertrooper, let it be. Just like Susan who allows them to write what they wanted. The readers know how to decipher the contents and know how to conclude.

    Leave them alone because they have their democratic rights to comment. By identifying them to other readers is a kind gesture.

  212. HELLRAISER says:

    FORGET ABOUT ANWAR, LET’S TALK ABOUT NAJIB… NOT NAJIB-ALTANTUYA BUT HIS AIDES!

    THOSE PERSONS WHO ARE ASSOCIATED WITH NAJIB ….. HIS TWO BODYGUARDS ABD RAZAK BAGINDA. LOOK AT THEIR UNFORTUNATE FATES!

    I CAN ONLY SAY THAT THEY DESERVED SUCH FATES FOR BEING ASSOCIATED WITH EVIL PEOPLE!

    LET ALL BEWARE! DO NOT FALL INTO SUCH CHASM!

  213. peace brother says:

    Sitting on the fence in this situation is like puzzle monkey. If see a need change. state your stand and not to be like monkeys

  214. Pegasus says:

    Wow,kindda of hot here,but that shows how passionate we are to make our stand ,while standing in the storms that’s hitting us wave after wave.

    Orang Utan and the rest who are in favour of Anwar might agreed that DSAI is the best person we have to take on the BN government. Yes, DSAI was in the BN government,and yes ,he may be not an angel but that was more then 10 years ago and after being in the prison for 6 years ,time change ,people change and we are in 2008 now. Between having Najib and DSAI as PM, I’ll choose Anwar. In DSAI ,we have a leader who can make the BN goons piss in the pants,BN are out to silence DSAI with their character assassination ,to eventually eliminate him from the politics. If Anwar has sodomize that Saiful guy, well, SO WHAT…? SAIFUL THE SO CALLED VICTIM DID NOT DIE DUE TO ASS BEING TORN INTO HALF BY ANWAR’S DICK. That Sinful guy could just be a hardcore homosexual guy planted by BN party in DSAI camp to lure him to commit the act. While the whole police intelligence are into the SODOMY case, we have another high profile MURDER case internationally known , where the victim from Mongolia was cruelly shot and blown up with C4 by the Malaysian Police, Najib have been implicated along with his wife,however no concrete evidence were dig out from them, the Police are more interested in solving the Sodomy case rather then the Murder case, the way BN maneuver ,they will try to make us forget about Altantuya’s death .
    The public still wants to know :-
    1) who authorise the release of the C4 bombs to the 2 killers
    2) who ask her to be killed in such manner
    2) who deleted the immigration record of Altantuya’s entry into Malaysia and under whose instructions

    BobbyNZ,
    Your losses in the 97/98 crisis is well known by all in the cyberworld. That nothing anyone could do to help you at that time.., it was your money,your own doing, your fate..just stay where you are now.

    Cheerio!

  215. BobbyNZ says:

    What I lost in 1997/8 was “peanuts” and now I am doing 10 times better. However, I feel sorry for the country I loved so much that lost no less than MR500 billion and the thousands that lost their livelihoods. My classmate, a close aide of Anwar, lost his public listed company due to margin calls. So many people in Malaysia still do not understand the role of “Naked Short Sellers”. The Dow Jones that fell 22% sent panic to the govt and Fed Reserve and they immediately set new rules. Lo and behold DJ up 400points in 2 days. But Malaysian stock exchange fell 80-90% and that moronic Finance Minister did nothing, yes nothing! Instead he went on a trip of the CROOKS, get a red carpet welcome and a tour of Pentagon. What an IDOITIC TRAITOT! It is my personal crusade to expose him!

    Cheers!

    BobbyNZ

  216. ExPIMP says:

    What would a Mongolian pretty girl come to Malaysia as translator for? Some big business deals between Malaysia and Mongolia. Or was she used to set some top officials and destroy her with C4 supplied by CIA and implicate them? This sort of thing is so common in CIA movies lah. My experience tell me she is nothing more than a “whore” used in a political ploy!

  217. ExCIA says:

    What would a Mongolian pretty girl come to Malaysia as translator for? Some big business deals between Malaysia and Mongolia. Or was she used to set some top officials and destroy her with C4 supplied by CIA and implicate them? This sort of thing is so common in CIA movies lah. My experience tell me she is nothing more than a “whore” used in a political ploy!

  218. Senior Economist says:

    I agree with what BobbyNZ said short selling. While it has its place, it was abused to destroy the Malaysian economy in 1997/8. Even George Soros himself admitted “destroying” the economy of the Soviet Union. So what is Malaysia to them? A piece of cake. It’s not just stock market players getting burnt. Public listed companies that borrowed funds from banks using shares as collateral get hit too. Then banks get hit too. People lost jobs. Unemployment shoot up. The ill effects still felt today. Therefore, BobbyNZ has made a very strong point and he is right!

  219. Orang Cherdik says:

    Saya bukan dari hutan tapi ini saya tahu:

    Jika seorang hisab dadah
    Dia mahu hisab lagi
    Jike dia main belakang
    Susah nak berhenti

  220. To Gooeyglobs,

    I am sorry for you and your blind support for AI.
    Surely when you want the next P.M. you want a spotless one, look at the endless attacks and all the endless negative remarks made on racists Najib and UMNO. Why, because you judge them for their pasts , what they did and what kind of policies they advocate. As a result millions suffer and most of all condemn them, so do I, and for very good reasons too.
    As a consequent surely the people have every right to ask and expect AI especially he is aspiring to be the next P.M. to be spotless. Would you not ask questions onto his past and look into his records while you can or when it is too late ?
    Just like a prospective employer would, ask the applicant for his past and records before making a decision on the application.
    Is this too much to expect ? Hasn’t the employer the right to expect and ask ?
    Blind bastard, if you care to read my past postings you would find that I am never a supporter of Najib or UMNO. I did not write them because of people like you-I live in a real free country. I do not go round calling people who disagree with me names or to shoot them them.
    To me I just want the best for Malaysia even though I no longer live in Malaysia.

  221. chaptokam says:

    Senior Economist (02:21:15) :

    I agree with what BobbyNZ said short selling. While it has its place, it was abused to destroy the Malaysian economy in 1997/8. Even George Soros himself admitted “destroying” the economy of the Soviet Union. So what is Malaysia to them? A piece of cake.

    You got it right . You missed out one item . Currency speculators . They will equally do same to our currency , which caused our currency to drop to a value of RM4.20 to a USD , and word was going round that it was going to drop to RM5 to a USD before TDM step in to peg at RM3.80. All these at the pleasure of the rogue traders who are mostly brilliant and wealthy Jews . Soros is one .

    To add when Anwar was the Finance Minister and DPM , who was his Governor of Bank Negara ?? The sissified Mohamed Nor Yacob , the current Finance Minister 2 . In case you forgot he used the Rakyat’s money to speculate in the currency exchange and lost over 10 billion of our money and Anwar as FM didn’t do anything to stop him as he was not even aware of it .

  222. waswas says:

    naked short selling and now stripped naked…
    If it`s so dirty to be naked, why do we get naked to get clean!

  223. TheWrathOfGrapes says:

    /// chaptokam (23:37:19) :

    BobbyNZ

    Yep , I agree with your comments . I have been thru that too . I mean the issues and the stock market where a lot of people got burnt . ///

    For that, you have to thank Mahathir and Soros – the former for building up that gigantic bubble just before the Asian Financial Crisis, and the latter for being the prick, I mean the prick that pricks the bubble.

  224. waswas says:

    chaptokam…i’m a sis not a bro’ 🙂

  225. Please read of other postings in here before you blindly called me names !

  226. chaptokam says:

    waswas

    Noted , sis , not aware of it , my apologies , have a beautiful day sis .

  227. ah Long says:

    Bala had plastic surgery by Michael jackson’s surgeon. He is now a Chinaman.

  228. wits0 says:

    “”Now it is this political assassination. It doesn’t mean they will stop there,” she added.”
    http://tinyurl.com/5fad9m
    Wife of Malaysia opposition leader accused of sodomy speaks out
    By Thomas Bell in Kuala Lumpur.
    Last Updated: 12:50PM BST 21/07/2008

  229. chaptokam says:

    waswas
    If it`s so dirty to be naked, why do we get naked to get clean!

    Sis ,
    It is not dirty to be naked , naked can be beautiful and of course we need to be naked to take a bath , then only we can be clean right ! You are absolutely correct .

    Today is a good day , Goddess of Mercy’s birthday , have a nice day .

  230. Orang Cherdik says:

    Saya dengar ada “viagra”
    Boleh kuatan batang
    Jika diguna Anwar,
    Memang ada cerita belakang.

  231. chaptokam says:

    Orang Cherdik (00:07:14) :

    Saya dengar ada “viagra”
    Boleh kuatan batang
    Jika diguna Anwar,
    Memang ada cerita belakang.
    Memang betul,
    Ada orang yang suka bontot .

  232. Lianne says:

    I’m a moderate, but I find it so strange that some people are so pro BN after all that’s happening to our beloved country. Irregardless of their past (all of them make mistakes and don’t argue that none of them are squeaky clean for god’s sake!), I will still bet on Anwar to be our next PM for the following reason;

    a) He is far moreee capable than anyone in BN team. That’s a fact. I cannot imagine Najib to take up that post after all that he has done. If he can do that to Altantuya, with his C4 usage (not very clever right?, btw, I’m not professional or super smart lady but just a working class lah), imagine what can he do to us in future? Blow us up if we don’t follow his order? Or ask money from him? As for Badawi .. enough said. He’s always sleeping ah.

    b) A lot of people say a leapord does not change its spot. Well, I strongly disagree because I have witness people changing for the better when something life threatening happens to them.

    I feel that everyone should give DSAI a chance to lead the country. If he fail us, we can always decide on next course of action INSTEAD of now, keep on protecting a weak party that’s sooo obvious.

    Seriously, any of you feel proud to be Malaysian lately when you face foreigner? I know I’m ashamed.

    Love our country and save it! The power is in your hand and stop being blind.

  233. Lianne says:

    Chaptokam … I don’t think you fully understand what a bad back means, irregardless of whether a person is able to sustain an erection or not. There’s limited position you can do when you have bad back, whether you’re a girl or a guy. And in such cases, missionary position is called for. So, seriously, I do’t think Anwar is capable of sodomising a young man with his back.

    Chaptokam … are you a virgin???

  234. chaptokam says:

    Lianne

    And in such cases, missionary position is called for.

    First time I heard about this missionary position . Could you please , eh if its not too descriptive , tell me a little about it !

    Thanks in advance . Me no my kids are already 26 and 24 years old . No v .

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