He’s free! Only for jail, that is. But don’t know for how long.

Anwar Ibrahim takes the IGP to task for “abuse of police power”. He accused the IGP for an “act of personal vengeance” against him in retaliation to the reports he had lodged earlier against the IGP (and AG), which are now being investigated by the ACA. 

In the hospital yesterday:

“When I was brought to the hospital, I was stripped naked for tests and had my private parts examined. They also measured the necessary parts” – he told a packed press conference after his release on police bail. (Malaysiakini)

Below is a summary of his own account and brush with the police yesterday.

Saturday, July 12, 2008: Police serve a section 111 Criminal Procedure Code notice, harasses his family and demands Anwar to report at the IPK Kuala Lumpur (Federal Territories Police headquarters) at 2pm on Monday, July 14. 

Sunday, July 13: Police serves ex-parte court order, prohibiting Anwar from physically being within 5km from the Parliament on July 14.

(But Anwar’s house and the IPK KL are within 5km radius from the Parliament building, which means Anwar was put under house arrest on Monday and at the same time prevented him from going to the IPK).
 
Monday, July 14: Police presence outside Anwar’s house. Family suspicions Anwar would be arrested.

(Which order should he compile with? The ex-parte court order or the Section 111 notice from the police?)


Monday, July 14: Investigating officer, DSP Jude Pereira wrote and faxed to Anwar’s lawyer at about 1.06pm, asking Anwar to report at the IPK KL on Wednesday, July 16 at 2pm to assist with the investigation.

Anwar arees to the appointment, police was told about it through Anwar’s lawyer Shankaran Nair. 

Wednesday, July 16: Anwar was at the Anti-Corruption Agency (BPR) head office to record his statement about his police report against the IGP and AG on July 1.

Anwar cuts short his meeting with ACA in order to report to the police at 2pm.

Ambushed by masked men
 
At about 12.45pm, Anwar and DSP Jude Pereira confirms appointment at 2pm. Anwar plans to have quick lunch before going to the police.

Five minutes later, Anwar was ambushed by a team of masked and heavily-armed police personnel near his house.
 
He was arrested and brought to the IPK. Gave his cautioned statement from 2.30pm to about 7.30pm. Police did job professionally and Anwar was assured of release the same day.

Later, after returning from Kuala Lumpur General Hospital (HKL), Jude he was detained and put in the police lock-up overnight for the purpose of recording a further statement in the morning.
 
Anwar protested and demanded to be released on police bail. Promised to be back the next morning to give more statement.

” I had to spend the night sleeping on a cold cement floor, which aggravated my back injury which was due to the beating I received from the then IGP, Tan Sri Rahim Nor on Sept 20, 1998″. – Anwar.
 
“This morning, after a short statement that was recorded for about 30 minutes, I was released on police bail. I was in pain and had to immediately receive some medical treatment upon my return home”.

CID chief tells blatant lie
 
Police has abused their power. Anwar condemned  statement of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) director, Mohd Bakri Mohd Zinin who said police had to arrest him as may not turn up for police investigations.
 
Deputy Home Minister Wan Farid said, as reported in Star Online that,  Anwar “went voluntarily to the police car without any incident.” According to Anwar, this is also a blatant lie by the government.
 
 Why I refused to give my DNA

He has no confidence in the system. In 1998,  DNA evidence was fabricated and used against Anwar. The persons responsible for the fabrication then were the IGP, SAC Rodwan and the AG, are new key players in this investigation.
 
Until now, Anwar has been denied access to the police report made by the Saiful Bukhairy against him.
 
“My accuser is still under police protection and as such, any fabrication is possible if they take my DNA. My decision to refuse a DNA test is taken through advice of my lawyers and DNA experts, both local and overseas” – Anwar.

143 responses »

  1. Why is he avoiding everything possible to have him charged ?
    Best solution is to give the Police the DNA to prove his innocence but again AI
    found an excuse not to.
    Is this the man we want as the next P.M. ?

    Just a few weeks ago I was willing to give him the benefit of a term of P.M. as a trial because UMNO is not only a disappointment but a disaster after 50 over years but now I am changing my mind about AI. I can see how cunning he is , but for how long ?
    Surely the Almighty can give us someone else other than AI and UMNO. Are thy the only choice Allah is offering the people of Malaysia. People of Malaysia pray hard for a miracle because you need it badly !

  2. borneopeteliew says:

    Stop bringing God in here you fool Najib Manaukau!

  3. Bolehwan says:

    I’m sad to see that Malaysia still have this ppl like Najib Manakau. With this ppl around, Malaysia is going backwards to the colonial days. I was wondering what sought of education he/she has gone thru to able to comment with good command of English and at the same time narrow minded unless he is paid to do so. Even the not-so-educated pak/mak ciks are able to differentiate between good or bad thus I suspect probably another few years of education is wasted on ppl like Najib Manakau. Probably he should give up his place at the first instance and the money spend on him/her be given to more unfortunate ppl who was same age with him/her.

    Malaysia Boleh!

  4. mugabe says:

    Since, I was there at Anwar Ibrahim’s house to listen from the man himself, here are my comments. [ I am not a PR member {PAS or DAP or PKR] or even UMNO]

    To Najib Manaukau,

    There is absolutely NO NEED for Anwar Ibrahim to give his blood for DNA.

    1] Firstly, the Police have not been truthfull and transparent, let alone behave in a professional way in the last hour attempt to hijack his car and have him arrested.

    2] The Statements from the Police and Home Minister is not the truth. Full Stop! Nothing Truthful has come out from the mouths of any of the so-called Malay-Muslim Leaders. [one begins to cast aspersions on their beliefs]

    3] Musa Hassan IGP should NOT make anything pertaining to Anwar Ibrahim case, as a very SERIOUS Police Report with proofs has been lodged against the very person of Musa Hassan.

    He should leave any comments to his DIGP , that is the protocol and the professional way. More so, being a Malay-Muslim Police Officer acting on behalf of the Agong.

    4] The Royal Malaysian Police being a Agent of the Agong who is head of the Muslims [of course as well as the non-Muslims] must show the Accused the Police Report of the Accuser.

    This will enable the Accused to make volunteer any statement to the Police Investigation Officer [IO].

    5] The case is actually very straightforward, the Accused Saiful has made a Police Report that he was sodomised by Anwar Ibrahim.

    Then, Saiful must tell the Police EXACTLY WHEN, WHERE and HOW.

    If Saiful “witnesses” are the Guard at the Condo, CCTV, and other evidences , then simply charge Anwar Ibrahim based on what evidences Saiful has gathered.

    6] The Police must not FISh for other evidences circumtantial or otherwise, DO NOT make Saiful more SINFUL against his religion and God.

    There is no need for DNA and all that crap, which BTW can be planted and making Saiful more SINFUL.

    7] It is a bit sad that Saiful no longer has parents who can advise him to be about accusing somebody of a very serious SIN.

    His Muslim family must advise him of the consequences of his action beign a young man of 23 years. Go and talk to some learned Ulama.

    The punishment for this SIN is most horrible, to say the least.

  5. rina j says:

    “Why is he avoiding everything possible to have him charged ?
    Best solution is to give the Police the DNA to prove his innocence but again AI
    found an excuse not to.”

    hellooo give dna for wat exactly? prove innocence my hoot! these ppl, they’ll do anythin to pin AI down. give dna today, new evidence props up tomorrow! think la wei

  6. BobbyNZ says:

    What about the nightmares he gave to the Malaysian families by collaborating with the CROOKS to destroy their livelihoods in 1997/8? Finally, the CROOKS admitted that “Naked Short Selling” is the cause behind the fall in Dow Jones. Only 22% compared to 90% of Malaysian stocks in 1998.

  7. Apostle Paul's descendant says:

    The high-handed tactics in arresting Anwar where the Special Force Commando hooded in Balaclavas, a reflection way back a decade ago of similar pattern was a total sham as Anwar Ibrahim is not Mat Selamat or Osama bin Laden. he is a 61 y.o.man with a back pain.

    It seems to me like a training exercise but it was as real as it gets.

  8. Sabrina says:

    Bobby, bobby, it’s feeding time….

    Sabrina
    SPCA

  9. Bolehwan says:

    ….and bobby is another one. sigh~

  10. tumpang tui says:

    this najib manaukau comments come from his gall bladder

  11. Ashverine says:

    Anwar did the right thing. The police have not been transparent… Why can;t they give AI’s lawyer a copy of the report??? Isn;t it basic human rights to know what you are charged of? This is clearly their ploy to fabricate the report for a ‘perfect police report’… Damn these people…

  12. tamade says:

    All are fantastic liars. No doubt about it.

    You can’t assume and you must have hard evidence since you are one of the top cops in the force. By arresting DSAI based on assumption, has in fact brought great shame to the force.

    Bakri and his superior Musa have to face the music of course. (Why can’t DSAI goes home after the ACA’s appointment, takes a bath and may be a quick lunch in his car, before proceeding to the Police HQ?)

    Do you need 15 police cars and a special swat team to apprehend him? Is he having C4 tied to his waist? Or is he a terrorist or the suspected murderer who blasted the poor Mongolian woman into pieces?

    You people must release that young man’s police report asap to DSAI’s lawyers if you people are professionals. We Rakyat are puzzled.

    Why must you people keep Saiful’s report so secret? Is it classified under OSA? National security?

    How are you people going to convince the Rakyat and the whole world that it will be a fair deal when you have the top cop and AG (who were questioned by ACA because of DSAI)sitting up there?

    No wonder USA, and now even Japan have voiced their concerns. The whole world is watching this incident and it is definitely bad for the Bolehland’s Guomen.

    Looks like now if the Guomen wants to proceed with DSAI’s case, the top cop and his deputy, AG, Bakri, must relinquish their posts and the Mongolian woman’s real murderer must be charged in the court first, otherwise, the good name of Bolehland will be forever smeared and it will make no difference from Robert Mugabe’s kingdom of police state.

    May God Bless Bolehland and the Rakyat.

  13. 2 cents says:

    I truly wish and pray to God that our beloved DYMM Yang Di Pertuan Agong will step him soon enough to stop all these nonsense. It is getting totally out of hand…

  14. What is there really to gain
    To torture a man with back pain?
    What respect is shown at the door
    When you have to sleep on cement floor?

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 170708
    http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
    Thur. 17th July 2008.

  15. Menyalak-er says:

    Hi folks, what DSAI did was absolutely correct by not letting have a single cell! Mugabe’s absolutely right but lets look at it from another angle:
    How would you feel is someone, even a Dr, “measured” your genitals-huh? Yep, DSAI was subjected to this degrdation!
    Is this humiliation part of “sodomy” evidence? Because as far as i know, the medical examiner for a rape case just needs to be sure that the ‘indicted’ (if male) can sustain an erection. (Hmm… wonder whether they did that… DSAI would have floored them!)
    A DNA sample can easily be ‘amplified’ as per previous comments; and since the accused is not privy to the accuser’s police statement, that ‘sampled’ dna can and will be planted as evidence to implicate…
    The burden of proof lies on the accuser, why? Because they either didn’t find implicating evidence in Sayfools arse or the dna belong to najis… Comprendo?
    Now for a new day… as our beloved RPK says “f*** the govt!”
    Heads up guys, they are already running, but beware of sneak potshots! Gigit!

  16. wits0 says:

    Menyalak-er : “wonder whether they did that..”

    Don’t think they are interested in th flaccid state when measurement is required.

  17. Menyalak-er says:

    Yo witso, hahahha… got me there, cannot-la measure in flaccid state, otherwise ‘flip-flop’ mah!
    But seriously, they need ‘fresh’ DNA, not dead skin cells which we normally shed around. That’s why they need the blood sample or a buccal (oral cavity) swab. The previous sample 10yrs. ago was not stored properly (no anti-coagulant).
    Makes me wonder what they teach drs. nowadays? Measuring genitalia? Pthui!

  18. Dr. C says:

    I can well understand his reluctance to have his DNA tested.
    Surely DNA taken the last time would be available just like finger prints . you just don’t discard these records after a case is concluded . So the DNA from that episode with the police should be available .
    But then again what is the source of the DNA , Would it be a problem if it is taken from a blood sample.
    I would be really worried if they wanted a sample of semen to study my DNA profile especially in the present context
    Unless as Datuk Anwar fears there is bad intent and this fresh DNA source would be planted.
    Anyway what has DNA got to do with this case. Unlike a rape case where the DNA from semen collected from the rape victim matches that of the accused
    So have they already collected semen , now want to match it. They don’t need a fresh sample …. go check your archives

  19. Ctizen Me says:

    I leave this space blank as a mark of protest……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………May God help us

  20. Joker says:

    Najib ‘Minikerbau’;
    Who you wish to be PM is your business and your right, I respect that. Your comments are totally uncalled and substandard. I have a strong feeling there is a lot of shit in your head. Obviously, you are not following the recent events happened to Anwar very intelligently, which I can understand due to your shallow mentality….please don’t act like you are a QC lawyer!!!

  21. Menyalak-er says:

    Hi Dr C, don’t think they would’ve thought of doing a “prostatic massage” at that time (1997-8) to get the stuff.
    Would anyone have? Given that they had the whole “specimen” caged and locked up (they thought for good)…?
    But one would never know… but seriously storing semen of a convicted washout “criminal”? Doubt it.
    Thanks for the heads up.

  22. waswas says:

    if sherlock holmes is here i’m sure he could easily pointed out who has written this plot.

  23. Joker says:

    BobbyNZ;

    You are heat again, your a** is becoming itchy. Sorry, no takers, too filth even to go nearby!….perhaps, try Najin Mini-kerbau

  24. Sabrina says:

    Please don’t disturb my dog. BobbyNZ, it’s feeding time.

    Sabrina
    SPCA

  25. chaptokam says:

    wits0 (19:14:33) :

    Menyalak-er : “wonder whether they did that..”
    Don’t think they are interested in th flaccid state when measurement is required.

    Maybe the answer lies in the depth of penetration . when erected length , penetration depth . Say if the penetration depth assuming the full erected length is the penetration depth is six inches and Saiful has anus tear up till six inches deep reaching the small intestine , then I think they have something to work on .

  26. goldenscreen says:

    Hello, Bobby. What about the nightmare gifted to us on the year 1969 by your good friends in UMNO? Tun M is still around and so is the “gang” surrounding Tun Abdul Razak. And many more Ultras with BLOOD on their hands are still in the employ of your beloved party!

  27. waswas says:

    chaptokam

    i think you have the skill of “deductive reasoning” while using abductive reasoning and astute observation to solve difficult cases. bravos!

  28. There obviously is clear evidence of conspiring attitude of the police by adamantly refusing to provide Saiful’s police report to DSAI.
    I strongly believe that the police has ulterior motive as to why the report is not extended to DSAI.The obvious suspicion is that they can change the report as and when it is necessary.It may be too late now for DSAI.
    I believe it is a standard procedure to extend the report when requested.
    I do agree with DSAI that up to the point of his arrest and release he is in the dark what actually is reported against him.
    The Police are blatantly not professional neither they are transparent.AS YB Lim kit Siang says , the police have inflicted upon themselves “black eyes”to the Malaysian public and the whole world!!

  29. It’s a grave ‘union rule’ to break
    To deny a person his daily lunch break
    And to have a change of clean (post ACA)clothes
    By trying to bring this case to an unusual speedy close

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 170708
    http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
    Thur. 17th July 2008.

  30. Menyalak-er says:

    Uh chaptokam, i think “human” anus is only <1″, beyond that rectum then colon – aiya not yet small intestine ‘cos another 12 ft to go mah, even kuching got longer large intestine than 6″! I hunt them see…
    Anyway, if Sayfool had a tear say in the rectum, he’d bled to death without surgery, if penetration of bowel lagi teruk! “Saychor” – died!
    Must be gentle… I saw a SD declaring ‘daughter-of-genghis’ oso like this type of play-play…
    Btw, anal tears due to constipation very common.
    Enuff of fixation on flaccid vs. erect states.

  31. Anonymous says:

    The origin of all these turmoil should traced back to one person- the racist mamak who rule with his iron fist for almost 20 years. Today he said in his blog and suggests that no one would use the same tactic to play down same person twice, unless anwar truely got that habit which can not change.

    Should we curse him-the racist M? He never regret even until now. He thaught he can live forever and need not face his Creator? So sad. Malaysia has been ruled by this kind of person for 20 plus years.

  32. tamade says:

    Let’s hope RPK will send this evil mamak to hell together with the murderer of Mongolian woman.

  33. vst says:

    Hi BoobyNZ,

    If you want to criticise Anwar about policies, you should not miss out talking about the great train robbbery by the Greatest Robber in Malaysian history for 20 years.

  34. Muda says:

    A police report especially saifool’s report which is regarded as the First Information Report under section 107 of the Criminal Procedure Code which is called a public document . Any first year law student knows it . A public document is acccessible to anyone especially to the suspect . PDRM have officers who are legally qualified including the IGP ! Hell , they even have a police college at Cheras which trains police investigators .

    A DNA report prepared 10 years ago is admissible and has no expiry date .

    I rest my case .

  35. roy selvan says:

    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of human beings who suppress the truth by their wickedness. God is angry at sin—angry at the passive sin of ignoring God, and angry at active rebellion. This anger is being revealed, perhaps in nature, or by scriptures that say that sin will be punished.

    However, wicked people suppress the truth, even though they have a chance to know. Since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.

    How did he make it plain?Ever since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Even though we cannot see God, we can see from his creation that he has eternal power and he is supernatural. -So Najib Manakau GOD KNOWS EVERY MANS HEART>

  36. wan says:

    Najib manaukau ni adik beradik ngan si NAJIS tu, buta hati dan buta perut, kasihan masih ada orang yang macam ini dalam negara BOLEH LAND……

  37. Muda says:

    The mode and manner of arrests by police officers are clearly spelt out in the Criminal Procedure Court . At the same , the Inspector General Standing Instructions ( IGSO ) together with the Public Prosecutor’s Directives ( PP Directives ) has given more than enough guidelines on mode and manner of arrests of criminals ,suspects , etc .

    Apparently , the arrest made on Anwar yesterday had breached the IGSO and PP’s directives !

    Nuff said !

  38. songsong says:

    WHY, the police is not even ready to show Anwar the police report lodged by that as…le saiful, Why?? Do the police want to amend or fine tune this report to accuser’s advantage, after taking statement from Anwar?? Very Fishy lah!

  39. Joker says:

    Muda;

    Are you not aware the college you refered to is called, ‘COLLEGE BODOH’
    Qualification for admittance: STD 3, able to think not required.

    Cheers!

  40. Anonymous says:

    has all the answers
    SMART ALBO

  41. Menyalak-er says:

    Oh ya, forgot to mention – DNA evidence on previous case in 1997-8, was expunged by Judge P. Augustine because of ‘contamination issues’. So cannot use same DNA from that time. Need new “damnable” stuff!
    Thanks ‘muda’ for heads up – you ex-pdrm or lawyer? Good show mate.
    Yes songsong, its darn harm-yee (salt-fishy)!
    Notice how beruk SIaL, mm descendant and botak HoMe is so riled up in Parliament demanding DSAI’s cell donation?

  42. dunnoalso says:

    a lot of wannabees here…also a little good polite contributors. me having a whale of a time! hahaha…on the floor ……lol
    keep it up guys…tq for the entertainment.

  43. Pegasus says:

    The law and order is FUVK in this country!.What DSAI did was right. BobbyNZ ,getting tired of reading your lost in 1997/98, move on,if you’re in NZ stay there,and count your lucky stars.
    Najib Manakau,
    You must be a real jerk and a nincompoop. If you’re Najib Tun Razak, then go and screw yourself, its ppl like you who are ignorant and naive ,unable to see whats right and wrong though it happening right infront of you. Go and watch those CSI shows and you’ll learn more on the DNA. Those police dogs are sniffing around and will definitely link DSAI using the DNA.
    The police have thus far acted very unprofessionally and all arrows point to a conspiracy to eliminate DSAI from the politic side. BN and those UMNO goons are running scare if Pakatan were to come into power. The recent debate has further added fuel after DSAI has slammed BN with their outrageous remarks. Its near impossible to get the police to act fairly and just in their duties. The police credibility are down the ghettos and longkang.If only the police are independent and not answerable to the goverment,then there may be hope for the ordinary citizens.

  44. tamade says:

    Why all of a sudden The Sky Rich Wizard from Ox Univer UK(KJ) so interested in DSAI’s DNA?

    Well the Rakyat know the answer~He and the top brass of the security guards want fresh DNA samples of DSAI to put into that young man’s butt so that DSAI can be charged for sodomy. Hard evidence, huh?

    What kind of Muslims are these in UltaManNo and in the Fed Guomen of Bolehland? The good name of Islam has been tainted by all these dirty buggers. Shame on you.

    You buggers have brought great shame to the people and to the Rulers of the states in Bolehland.

  45. Muda says:

    Cases involving VVIP , VIP and former VVIP should be investigated by senior officers at least DSP and above and goes to the OCCI and the CID Director before passed over to the Head of the Prosecution Division of the AG’s Chambers and the AG himself . It’s done that way according to the IGSO and PP’s dircetives .

    BTW Menyalak – er , I’m neither ex pdrm or a lawyer .

    Let’s just say , that I’ve dealt with pdrm and a whole lot of our enforcement agency including ACA and our judicial system for some time now .

    The Linggam gate scandal is nothing new to me ! And so is the so called the rejuvenation of the judiciary boasted by Zaid and Pak Lah .

    Anwar Ibrahim’s lawyers should really burn the midnite oil and get to know what is truly happening at Bukit Aman , AG Chambers and the the Palace of Justice . Do your homework boys and find the right contacts becos I’m damn sure that they really needed it !

    MAY ALMIGHTY GOD REALLY PROTECT US NOW !

  46. Joker says:

    Sorry Sabrina, don’t forget to add some arsenic power in the food when you feed your pariah dog BobbyNZ, good for his system.

  47. JeyS says:

    Everything in this whole case incldg RPK’s is sooooooo not logical.

    We all know that. We are just being taken for a tail-spin (tale-spin more like it) by our wonderful UMNO-BNites. Lets see how far they go la. One day sure fall on their face…..

    As for people like najibmanakau and bobby nz….let them yalak-yalak..la. Its like mad dog plague……shiok sendiri as well….

  48. People Power says:

    To Najib manauku,
    Insaf la sebelum terlambat!
    Jangan lagi buat Fitnah terhadap DSAI, engkau tak dapat apa faedah tetapi engkau kena menanggung dosa!

  49. Sabrina says:

    Did anyone see our dog call Bobby NZ, it is a very sick son of a bitch.

    Sabrina
    SPCA

  50. kj says:

    1 the suggestion of DNA act so that anyone suspected in crime to give DNA for investigation , it1s good if our law enforcement team are neutral and unbiased . with the malaysia police infamous corruption , it is disastrous !!!!!
    2 DNA test on AI only to be done with the foreign expert , anyone domestic that has or indirect interest should not touch this case
    3.can u believe the AG and IGP is still on duty when the allegation toward them ???this is real joke , under whose hand and order of which case to settle first ? altantuyah linked with najis ? or saiful sodomy case ? this is so call third world democracy

  51. Dr Ismail says:

    Below was a commentator from MalaysiaToday Link :
    http://72.47.255.22/2008/content/view/9050/38/

    _________________________________________________________________
    My..my… what a surprise to see the self-righteous, condescending, santimonious BobbyNZ still around making a fool of himself. My dear Bobby NajiZ cyber trooper, you kept asking Malaysians to leave the Altuntuya case alone, quote “Why not let justice run its course” unquote, because you wanna protect your master.

    The so-called American “Crook” that you hated so much and said even knew how to pronounce Reformasi(BobbyNZ, June 22, 2008 | 23:43:5smilies/cool.gif; FYI, this crook has gone on to produce an Academy Award winning environmental documentary called An Inconvenient Truth. He is an avid environmentalist and a strong advocate against irresponsible wastage of our natural resources. The world would have been a much better place if the so-called “crook”,Al Gore has won the US presidency 8 years ago instead of your oil-addict, war loving Bush! It is crooks like you and Bush who are like viruses to the earth, plundering the earth for selfish benefits. Al was also one of the few US senators who were opposed to the Iraq war motion raised by Bush. Yes, he also voiced out against the fabrication by MamakP*K*M*k on Anwar, back in the Reformasi days. But so did the rest of the world leaders except Zimbabwe’s Mugabe.

    smilies/angry.gifBobby NZsmilies/angry.gif No, I don’t intend to follow your twisted mind by reading The Theory of Reflexivity. I would rather follow good old Warren’s The Buffetology and earn my money the proper way.

    Instead of your wasting your breath by continuously calling DSAI a gay, why don’t you go to the high court and file a Statutory Declaration on that? YB Anwar was a victim of a very vicious political fabrication due to his opposition to corruption, cronyism and his refusal to use the national reserve to bail out MamakP*K*M*k’s cronies during the Asian financial crisis.

    To my fellow Malaysians who still believe the sodomy crap, I sincerely urge you to watch the seven parts documentary on http://www.youtube.com/user/Youthmalaysian

    Ladies and Gentlemen, RPK is about to give a world premier of An Inconvenient Truth Part 2. So sit back, relax and enjoy the dawn of Malaysia Baru smilies/cool.gif
    ______________________________________________________________________

    THATS THE REASON HE NEEDS TO BE RESTRAINED BY FORCE DUE TO HIS LUNACY ELSEWHERE.

    Dr. Ismail
    Head Of Psychiatrist

  52. US Visitor says:

    After being here for 7 days, I noticed you guys talk about Anwar having nightmares. Am I right to say he must be a “nightmare” to himself?

  53. BobbyNZ says:

    Ayoyosamy,

    I give up on these ones “obsessed” with Anwar lah. They say “love is blind” so they love that “Main Pantat” guy more than the Truth.

    Let me state that corruption was rife over the last 2 decades before the Asian Crisis. Anyone complained? NO why not? Cos the corruption was “constructive”. Then this Traitor came along and blew up everyone’s pie with his corrupt act of legalising short selling. That is “destructive” corruption. You guys decide who is worse okay?

    Except for the those “obsessed” lunatics for Anwar, I hope my comments will win those who care to know the truth.

    Cherrrioooo.

    BobbyNZ

  54. BobbyNZ says:

    The financial crisis in US is caused by poor fundamentals like subprime mortgage lending. Then the short sellers take advantage and Dow Jones plummeted by 22%. Authorities act by coming out new rules and within 2 days rebound of more than 400 points.

    The financial crisis of Malaysia in 1997/8 was not caused by poor fundamentals cos it was the “Rising Tiger”. But is was shorted yes shorted by “financial predators” led by George Soros. The objectives? To stop Malaysian, Indonesia and Thailand from going further with their Brazil project and change the PMs of these 3 governments. But Malaysian PM survived.

    Hope the above sheds some light. For Anwar’s role, read earlier blog.

    Cheeriooooooo

  55. BobbyNZ says:

    The financial crisis in US is caused by poor fundamentals like subprime mortgage lending. Then the short sellers take advantage and Dow Jones plummeted by 22%. Authorities act by coming out new rules and within 2 days rebound of more than 400 points.

    The financial crisis of Malaysia in 1997/8 was not caused by poor fundamentals cos it was the “Rising Tiger”. But is was shorted yes shorted by “financial predators” led by George Soros. The objectives? To stop Malaysian, Indonesia and Thailand from going further with their Brazil project and change the PMs of these 3 governments. But Malaysian PM survived.

  56. Economist says:

    That makes sense BobbyNZ. Anwar was totally impotent at the time of the Asian Crisis. Lacks leadership totally. At least Dr M quickly close the open trading and used Petronas to save the country from chaos and anarchy. Very dirty those American crooks!

  57. Bush Lawyer says:

    Even a bush lawyer like me can figure out the “destructive role” Anwar played in the Asian Crisis. Yes I am of the opinion that he betrayed his countrymen by legalising short selling of currency and stocks in 1997. This is proof of “mens rea” guys.

  58. HR Manager says:

    I just wonder how a nobody with a pretty face and nice body like Saiful could be promoted so quickly within 3 months to be Anwar’s Special Assistant to follow him closely everywhere with nobody around. Maybe an innocent massage by Saiful turned into a steamy hot anal exploration.

  59. Forensic Expert says:

    Under criminal law, permission is not required to get DNA from suspects. So Anwar just have to drop a few pubic hairs during his strip examination and lo and behold DNA is obtained. This clearly shows how much this Anwar knows about DNA. Memang bodoh lah ini orang. Mana boleh jadi PM leh?

  60. Political Analyst says:

    Anwar took Pak Lah’s kind gesture to let him off the hook of sodomy charge for granted the last time. Calling “no confidence vote” equates to calling “no mercy vote” for himself this time. Even Dr M affirms of at least 2 other coming to him to complain Anwar’s sodomy acts. So Dr M can lodge SD lah like RPK.
    It’s hard landing for Anwar from now on.

  61. Business Analyst says:

    US to Pak Lah. “Let’s talk, what do you want to get Anwar off the case?” Pak Lah : “It’s out of my jurisdiction, the Rule of Law” US : “Come on Pak Lah, we know you can make it easier for Anwar” Pak Lah: “Tell me” US: “We fast track the Free Trade Agreement. We are sure those Democracts in Congress will approve. Al Gore will talk to them” Pak Lah: “Sign first, then see how”

    Told you Pak Lah is a smart and clever PM for Malaysia. He looks after our interest unlike Anwar who betrayed his countrymen for his own glory.

  62. Dr Ismail says:

    I apologise to BobbyNZ for calling him a lunatic. I admit I am one myself and currently taking medication like viagra.

  63. Ravindran Kunjan says:

    Liar! Liar! PIG Musa, Bodokri Zinin, Gani Pak Taik & Hamid All Bald your undies are on fire!!!!!! Resign Now!! “DSAI can have a Dr present when he gives his DNA sample…..says the stupid AllBald” Here we are talking about manipulation of samples given….. as a lawyer he knows NUTS about DNA!! Ooops!! BN are made up of such fools otherwise how could Mahadey Kutty stay in power for 22 years in Bolehland. After March 8, the demise of Bolehland is in the making. Its FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! All the script writers of Altantuya; DSAI’s liwat; RPK’s sedition; Balasubramaniam@ David Copperfield etc have one thing in common, ie “DO or Die”.

    Do Not preach that PDRM acted professionally, resign NOW if you are a professional as all Malaysians know your Monkey Tricks!!!

    God Bless DSAI & RPK and their families.

    Ravindran Kunjan

  64. bamboo river says:

    Anwar is absolutely right in not giving DNA samples because he has yet to see Saiful’s police report, police had not establish evidence to implicate Anwar sodomising that bloke,no clear transperancy on the case being carried out and worst of all, we don’t trust the gomen.

  65. David says:

    Invaded, Invaded this site is invaded.

  66. Arumugam says:

    Hello all,

    For those who thinks that Anwar is innocent in his previous sodomy case, I got a present for you guys. Check this statement out.

    “FOR THE BENEFIT OF READERS, I HAVE EXTRACTED FROM THE PAST THE JUDGMENT BY THE FEDERAL COURT OF MALAYSIA, ANWAR’S APPEAL AGAINST HIS CONVICTION ON SODOMY. THE FOLLOWING IS A MAJORITY DECISION REACHED BY THE JUDGES SITTING IN THE FEDERAL COURT ON THE ANWAR IBRAHIM APPEAL AGAINST HIS CONVICTION ON SODOMY.

    PLEASE NOTE AND READ CAREFULLY THE VERDICT, THAT ALTHOUGH THE JUDGES HAD NO DOUBT IN THEIR MINDS THAT THE ACT OF SODOMY BY ANWAR IBRAHIM HAD TAKEN PLACE, BUT TO RELY SOLELY ON AZIZAN’S EVIDENCE WOULD BE UNSAFE FOR THE PURPOSES OF UPHOLDING THE JUDGEMENT.

    SO DID THE ACT OF SODOMY TAKE PLACE ? YES ACCORDING TO THE JUDGES. BUT DUE TO A TECHNICALITY THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DISMISS THE CASE.

    DALAM MAHKAMAH PERSEKUTUAN MALAYSIA

    (BIDANG KUASA RAYUAN)

    RAYUAN JENAYAH NO: 05-6-2003(W)

    ANTARA

    DATO’ SERI ANWAR BIN IBRAHIM … PERAYU

    DAN

    PENDAKWA RAYA … RESPONDEN

    RAYUAN JENAYAH NO. 05-7-2003(W)

    SUKMA DARMAWAN SASMITAAT MADJA … PERAYU

    DAN

    PENDAKWA RAYA … RESPONDEN

    CORAM:

    ABDUL HAMID MOHAMAD F.C.J.

    RAHMAH HUSSAIN F.C.J.

    TENGKU BAHARUDIN SHAH TENGKU MAHMUD J.C.A.

    MAJORITY JUDGMENT OF

    ABDUL HAMID MOHAMAD F.C.J.

    AND TENGKU BAHARUDIN SHAH TENGKU MAHMUD J.C.A.

    In this judgment, Dato’ Seri Anwar bin Ibrahim will be referred to as “the first appellant” and Sukma Darmawan Sasmitaat Madja will be referred to as “the second appellant”.

    The first appellant was charged with an offence punishable under section 377B of the Penal Code.

    The second appellant was charged with two offences. The first charge is for abetting the first appellant in the commission of the offence with which the first appellant was charged. The second charge is similar to the charge against the first appellant i.e. under section 377B of the Penal Code.

    Both the appellants were tried jointly. The first appellant was convicted and sentenced to nine years imprisonment commencing from the expiry of the sentence he was then serving in the first trial. High Court Kuala Lumpur Criminal Trial No. 45-48-1998 (1999)2 M.L.J. 1 (H.C), (2002)2 M.L.J. 486 (C.A.) and (2002) 3 M.L.J. 193 (F.C.)). The second appellant was convicted on both charges and sentenced to six years imprisonment and two strokes for each charge with the sentences of imprisonment to run concurrently. For the judgment of the High Court in the present case, see (2001) 3 M.L.J. 193.

    They appealed to the Court of Appeal. Their appeals were dismissed – see (2004) 1 M.L.J. 177.

    They appealed to this court and this is the majority judgment of this court.

    Section 87(3) of the Courts of Judicature Act 1964 (“CJA 1964”) provides that a criminal appeal to this court “may lie on a question of fact or a question of law or on a question of mixed fact and law.” The position is the same as in the case of the Court of Appeal hearing an appeal from a trial in the High Court as in this case – see section 50(3) CJA 1964.

    To summarise our judgment, even though reading the appeal record, we find evidence to confirm that the appellants were involved in homosexual activities and we are more inclined to believe that the alleged incident at Tivoli Villa did happen, sometime, this court, as a court of law, may only convict the appellants if the prosecution has successfully proved the alleged offences as stated in the charges, beyond reasonable doubt, on admissible evidence and in accordance with established principles of law. We may be convinced in our minds of the guilt or innocence of the appellants but our decision must only be based on the evidence adduced and nothing else. ”

    So, I’m not doubt that Anwar really did sodomized the kid, or the kid is just a seed planted by the government to keep Anwar’s dream of taking the federal government by September 16. But I could assure one thing, Anwar itself has disrupt the whole stability of economy, peace of the country. More to come is his subordinate, The US government’s interference.

  67. chaptokam says:

    According to this report that says Anwar will not agree to the idea of a foreign forensic expert of his choice to draw a DNA sample from him , says his lawyer R. Sivarasa .

    In view of all these incomprehensible refusal from Anwar even from a forensic expert of HIS CHOICE , I sense something not right . It shows beyond reasonable doubt he has something to hide . Further if he claims that there is a political conspiracy and that the police cannot be deem to be biased or there’s no transparency , then I suggest the Govt get the services of the FBI and the CSI from the US to conduct the investigation to ensure impartiality and transparency.

    If he still refused to accept this proposal then Anwar will be tried by the court of public opinion and the result will be very damaging to him .

    Btw , during a trip to US, besides getting a red carpet welcome it came with a 21 gun salute normally reserved for heads of state and he was only a DPM at that time during the visit to the Pentagon . All at the courtesy of William Cohen the then Secretary of Defence and Madeilyn Albright the US Sec of State. That was done to embaress TDM . Agreed with Ayoyosamy, BobbyNZ , Economist and Bush Lawyer on that issue .

    As with Muda’s
    Anwar Ibrahim’s lawyers should really burn the midnite oil and get to know what is truly happening at Bukit Aman , AG Chambers and the the Palace of Justice . Do your homework boys and find the right contacts becos I’m damn sure that they really needed it !

    I believe when a party is guilty , he has to create diversions and plant ideas that will confuse the public , majority of them , don’t think and follow the leader , and paint it as a political conspiracy . Diversions are created like the Motion of No Confidence , the rally on price hike , the photographs, the Syriah court petition , the swearing on the Koran , the refusal to meet the police , the DNA samples , etc . These are done to confuse the truth from the public and the diversion of justice .

  68. chaptokam says:

    BTW Menyalak-er

    I got my human anatomy MIXED up .

    Actually I meant to say the rectum , not the small intestines. If the penetration depth assuming the full erected length is the penetration depth is six inches and Saiful might have a rectum tear of up till a depth of six inches deep then I think they have something to work on .

    Thanks for the correction.

  69. chaptokam says:

    Arumugam (09:44:06) :

    Good piece , excellent research .

  70. Bolehwan says:

    Funny, this ppl are so forgiving when those in Gomen can do:-
    1) Murdering by C4;
    2) Getting commissions at the expense of tax payers’ money;
    3) corruption at tax payers’ money;
    4) brainwashing the next generation of leaders with BTN so there are more racist;
    5) deterioration of quality of education for the sake of racial supremacy at the expense of the economy;
    6) selling off country’s precious resources and pocketed the most of the proceeds;
    7) allowing foreigners in from neighbouring country and giving them citizenship without scrutinising them whether they are capable and able to contribute to the national economy by adding value into it;
    8) allowing this foreigners to take what is rightfully for the bumiputeras and thus causing them asking for more allocation;
    9) causing the judiciary, the police and the attorney to be dogs that serve their political masters;
    10) and much more.

    but are so adamant in striking off DSAI just because
    1) gomen says that he kowtow to IMF;
    2) some college dropout who went to Najib’s office and house in the wee hour of the morning to get a scholarship which he is not qualified at all, accuse him of sodomising…..

    funny…so funny all this ppl.

  71. tukangfitnah says:

    hail to the govt. thanks to whoever voted for them. stoopiad!

  72. Rakyat pintar says:

    Caution! Caution! Beware DSAI and DSAI supporters!
    Got rumour that “the authorities” is going to make the case like this to “get” Anwar!
    1) They are going to get the foreign DNA experts in to fool “orang kampong di Malaysia”. They think that by saying DNA test is carried out by foreign DNA experts, they can fool “orang kampong di Malaysia” that that DNA test is very advanced, very credible and is of International standard.
    2) They will pickup some DSAI hairs/cells/etc from the Police lockup room where DSAI was detained on 16 Jul 08.
    3) They will use some of these DSAI hairs/cells/etc and sprinkle some into the sample collected from Condo where Saiful claimed to be sodomised.
    4) They will then pass the 2 sets of sample to foreign DNA experts to see if both sets of sample matching. And they will limit the job of foreign DNA experts just to see if both sets of sample matching, JUST THAT and NOTHING MORE THAN THAT.
    5) Based on 3), what would the test results of foreign DNA experts like? They will then publish the test results of foreign DNA experts in all the main stream media, STRESSING RESULTS OF FOREIGN DNA experts.

    If “the authorities” would like to ACT “Professional” by inviting foreign DNA experts, Rakyat would also like to urge Malaysian police to let an independent foreign team of Investigation experts/Investigators to ensure professional investigation has been carried out by Malaysian police.

    Rakyat would also like to urge “the authorities” to let an independent foreign team of Judiciary experts(Judges and Queen’s counsel) to ensure professionalism in Malaysian court procedings and trials of this Sodomy accusation.

    Rakyat semakin matang, “authorities” pls don’t anyhow try to bullsh*t the rakyat.

  73. I feel very sick of all these news recently.

    Look at our Parliament “Dewan yang Mulia”?? It’s like a big children playground.

  74. Menyalak-er says:

    Making things clearer, as long as DSAI does not give “sufficient” DNA before handover of Sayfool’s police report, should be ok.
    Show the police report first, is the name-of-the Game now.
    Hey guys do’t take CSI melodrama too seriously, you need ‘quantifiable un-denatured’ DNA to do profiling… otherwise you end up profiling a rat, kuching. najis and god-knows-what. Too much fixation on pubic hairs/jerkoffs me thinks.
    Dear Chang JH, take a break, go run around Putra Jaya Lake. I’ll join you there, soon. Cheers.

  75. izzatdin says:

    Apasal pulak nak bagi salinan repot dekat dia, bagi senang nanti nak reka cerita? Sebab dah tahu apa yang Saiful cakap? Nanti senang nak menyelamatkan diri dengan mereka2 keterangan? Anwar raja mensensasikan cerita.

  76. Aiyoo Tambi says:

    Here what the man say. He had no direct relation with Victim. He was a part-timer and voluntary staff. Show me a picture of S and A. ???? Ada??? Yelek??
    Police report Copy??? Yelek
    Victim wiling to go to Court ??? YeleK… Pochi
    Victim wiling to talk to press and show torn /raptured ass??? YeleK!!!
    Apa laGi>>>>>>>>>>Semua pun Yelek…Yelek …Yelek>>>>
    Ahhh, you guys wasting time lah.Better look for extra Income…….
    Oil price up? Ama
    Food price up?? Ama ,
    ama.
    Month end Soru miss???? Ama Ama Double ama…..
    Oi !!! Pakai akai sikit lah!!!
    Sekian Terima Kasi…………………….

  77. TheWrathOfGrapes says:

    Anwar Ibrahim’s press statement

    Thursday, 17 July 2008, 10:24 pm | 293 views

    From the office of Anwar Ibrahim.

    On Saturday, 12-07-2008, the police came to my house to serve a Section 111 Criminal Procedure Code notice, harassing my family and demanding my presence at the IPK Kuala Lumpur (Federal Territories Police headquarters) at 2pm on Monday, 14-07-2008 despite an earlier agreement with my lawyers for me to come to the IPK on Monday 14-07-2008. On the next day, Sunday, the police also served an ex-parte court order, prohibiting me from physically being within 5 km from the Parliament on Monday 14-07-2008. As you can see, my house and the IPK KL are within 5 km radius from the parliament building. The court order effectively put me under house arrest on Monday and at the same time prevented me from going to the IPK.

    On Monday, 14-07-2008, the presence of police personnel outside the compound of my house strengthened our suspicions that they would be prepared to arrest me as soon as I left the compound of my residence, on the pretext of me violating the court order. The issue here, is which order should I comply with, the ex-parte court order or the Section 111 notice from the police?On the same day, the police through the Investigating Officer, one DSP Jude Pereira wrote and faxed to my lawyer at about 1.06pm, informing that I was required to be present at the IPK KL on Wednesday, 16-07-2008 at 2.00 pm to assist with the investigation. I conveyed my agreement to the appointment and it was communicated to the police through my solicitor, Messrs S.N Nair and Partners via telephone and letter on the same day.

    On Wednesday, 16-07-2008, I was at the Anti Corruption Agency (BPR) head office to record my statement pursuant to the police report lodged by me at IPK Shah Alam on 01-07-2008, against the Attorney General Gani Patail and the Inspector General of Police Musa Hassan for their involvement in the fabrication of evidence way back in 1998. To ensure that we will be able to attend the appointment with the police at 2pm, we cut short our statement at the BPR’s office, and this fact was clearly conveyed to the BPR officers present.

    At about 12.45 pm, the IO, DSP Jude Pereira called Mr Nair to confirm about our attendance and Mr. Nair confirmed that we would attend that 2pm appointment. We were about to have a quick lunch at my house before proceeding to the IPK. 5 minutes later, we were ambushed by a team of masked and heavily armed police personnel near my house.

    I was arrested and brought to the IPK. I cooperated fully with the police by giving my cautioned statement from 2.30 pm to about 7.30 pm. At this particular point, the IO and the other officers handling this case were doing their job professionally. I was then given assurances by Assistant Commissioner of Police Razali and later Senior Assistant Commissioner II Khor (through my lawyer) that I would be released on police bail on the same day.

    However, later on, upon my return from Kuala Lumpur General Hospotal (HKL), the IO, DSP Jude Pereira informed me and my lawyers that I will be detained and put in the police lock-up overnight for the purpose of recording a further statement in the morning.

    I and my lawyers protested, giving our undertaking that we will be back anytime required by the police to continue with the recording of the statement, and there was no need for me to be detained overnight, and that I should be released on police bail. The police, through the IO were adamant that I should be detained and put in the police lock-up overnight, despite them knowing about my physical condition. I had to spend the night sleeping on a cold cement floor, which aggravated my back injury which was due to the beating I received from the then IGP, Tan Sri Rahim Nor on 20th September, 1998.

    This morning, after a short statement that was recorded for about 30 minutes, I was released on police bail. I was in pain and had to immediately receive some medical treatment upon my return home.

    I now wish to deal with the statement of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) Director, Dato Mohd Bakri Mohd Zinin as appeared in Utusan Malaysia today, inter alia

    “Pasukan khas bertopeng polis terpaksa memintas kenderaan DSAI di Bukit Segambut di sini dan menahan Anwar ekoran tindakan Penasihat PKR itu mengubah haluan kenderaannya pada saat-saat tempoh yang diberi kepadanya untuk menyerah diri kepada polis pada pukul 2 petang ini hampir berakhir”

    This is a blatant lie from the CID director to cover up their shameful act of abuse of police powers. I have given the assurances and had just informed the IO 5 minutes before the disgraceful ambush by the police through my lawyer who was with me in the same car.

    In addition to the above, the Deputy Home Minister, Wan Farid said, as reported in Star Online that, I “went voluntarily to the police car without any incident.” Again, this is also a blatant lie by the government.

    I take to task the IGP for this abuse of police power against me through the events I’ve narrated above. It appears that the events of the last few days, the nature of my unwarranted arrest, my overnight incarceration which was actually absolutely unnecessary, were an act of personal vengeance against me in retaliation to the reports I lodged earlier against him, which are now being investigated by the ACA.

    DNA

    I have reasonable grounds for having no confidence in the system. In the course of the trial of the false allegations of sodomy in 1998, DNA evidence was fabricated and used against me. The persons responsible for the fabrication then were the IGP, SAC Rodwan and the AG, are new key players in this investigation.

    Until now, I have been denied access to the police report made by the accuser against me.

    My accuser is still under police protection and as such, any fabrication is possible if they take my DNA. My decision to refuse a DNA test is taken through advice of my lawyers and DNA experts, both local and overseas.

    ANWAR IBRAHIM

  78. Menyalak-er says:

    Aiyoo Thambi, hahaha, good one. Thanks – everyone too serious la…

  79. kittykat46 says:

    Arumugam,
    Let me explain to you Criminal Law 101. If a court is unable to find a person guilty Beyond Reasonable Doubt, the person is NOT guilty. That’s it.
    Its NOT a technicality.

    Example of A mere technicality is when a case gets thrown out because the charge sheet was wrongly made out e.g. they got the IC Number or name wrong, or Charged under the Wrong Law (Yeah our wonderful AG’s Department has made such mistakes before)

    Chaptokam,

    The issue is not the DNA test itself, it is what is done with the DNA after that.
    Let me explain a bit of Biochemistry 101.

    With PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) techniques, the little bit of DNA from a blood sample can be multiplied 1 Million times. The “manufactured” DNA is usually in a semi-liquid suspension like goo, doesn’t look like any human tissue, but its DNA alright.

    IF someone has that intent, that DNA can be “planted” anywhere you like – on clothes, on somebody’s skin, inside someone’s vagina or somebody’s anus.

    Its been done before.

    How to ensure this doesn’t happen ?

    One, “Chain of Custody” must be ensured. The DNA blood sample must never leave the lab. Any PCR generated DNA must also never leave the lab.

    Two, If somebody says they found somebody’s DNA in Saiful’s anus, the context of the finding must be subject to independent scrutiny. E.g. Was the DNA embedded in human semen or just random DNA. Just random DNA is very suspicious.

    There was a case in the US where they found a person’s DNA at a murder scene – looks very incriminating, but the blood stain it was alleged to be taken from did not match the suspect’s blood type. The DNA evidence got throw out.

    Three, The Chain of Evidence of the Victim’s medical examination must be preserved. If they took any unknown DNA from Saiful it has to be from June 28th thereabouts, not something coming out after the fact.

  80. Ravindran Kunjan says:

    Dear All,

    I wish to clarify the decision of PP vs DSAI & PP vs Sukma Dermawan highlighted by Mr. Arumugam.

    Specifically the citation:

    ” eventhough reading the appeal records and FIND EVIDENCE to confirm the appellants were involved in homosexual activities this court of law, MAY ONLY CONVICT the applellants if the PROSECUTION HAS SUCCESSFULLY PROVED the alledged offences as stated in the charges, BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT, ON ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH ESTABLISHED PRINCIPLES OF LAW. We may be convinced in our minds of the GUILT OR INNOCENCE of the appellants OUR DECISION IS ONLY BASED ON ADDUCED EVIDENCE and nothing else…”

    1. The Federal Court( FC) is only privy to the case & appeal records from the High Court (HC)& Court of Appeal(CA), no new evidence is admissible;
    2. Based on the records of the HC & CA, the Federal Court decided for DSAI & Sukma as the prosecution evidence adduced in the HC & CA were doubtful ie not the standard of prove required beyond reasonable doubt. ( purely based on forced testimony of Sukma, Dr Munawar, the speech writer – who both have declared that they were forced by police to confess before the magistrate as they were under duress in police custody, threatened and given involuntary );
    3. Even Azizan, the driver, had, under cross examination, denied he was sodomised and was confused of the dates. The HC judge was biased and stood down the case. When the case resumed, the charges were amended ( earlier charges mentioned dates whereby Tivoli Villa was not built yet ) and Azizan had been guided to say that he was confused.
    4. Forensic evidence was decided by FC to be inadmissible ie DNA etc;
    5. Only Azizan’s word ( doubt created and an accomplice, if true )
    6. Selective prosecution by plea bargaining.
    7. Then, the Judiciary was under Eusof Chin, now, action is pending for his abuse of power & many corrupt practices in the Judiciary by the Lingam RC.

    This is what DSAI is saying. Trumped up charges; manipulation of evidence; use of threat, promise, duress and oppression by the police; confession extracted involuntarily etc etc. This, in criminal cases, will create doubt, and the slightest doubt created, the benefit of the doubt must be given to the accused, as the established principle of law is ” Not guilty until proven beyond a reasonable doubt.” The rule that ” he who alleges must prove beyond reasonable doubt” is a very high standard of prove and the burden of prove lies with the prosecution.

    The Federal Court decided on the available records; which were doubtful and the prosecution failed to meet the standards and burden of prove. Though records of HC & CA state homosexual activities, but it is, till to date, NOT PROVEN BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.

    A mere bona fide clarification.

    Ravindran Kunjan

  81. kittykat46 says:

    One thing all the UMNO cyber troopers here are right about Anwar’s overseas connections.
    Anwar probably has access to advice on this subject from the some of the most brilliant DNA experts in the world.

  82. rao says:

    Hishamuddin admits Govt afraid of Anwar:

    Education Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) advisor Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim’s arrest was not because he was a threat to the nation.

    “Instead, Anwar’s arrest was because of the sodomy allegation against him,” the Umno Youth chief said.

    Hishammuddin said the government was not afraid of Anwar as he was only good at harping about his desire to change the ruling government but until today he had not made it a reality.

    “We are not worried about Anwar’s capabilities and this was proven when he was given space to debate on the oil price hike issue which was telecast live on television,” he told reporters at the Parliament lobby yesterday.

    Hishammuddin regretted the attitude of PKR president and Anwar’s wife, Datuk Seri Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail, who kept raising the issue of not being given a copy of the police report made against Anwar by Mohd Saiful.

    “I urge the police and prosecutors to investigate the case in a professional and transparent manner, and not to lose focus amid the various issues created in order to paint a bad image of the government.

    “I also urge all quarters to be calm and allow the process of law to run smoothly,” he said. — Bernama

  83. haha land says:

    najib manakau.. why u so stupid ??? hahahahahahaha….such a crap

  84. Menyalak-er says:

    Bravo, kittykat46 – go get them, yeah!
    But i think they can’t pronounce PCR yet, lol, may’ve to keep it even simpler!
    U the kitty i won’t dare bark at…
    Tq, Ravindran for heads up.
    Where’s the inside-man, ‘muda’? Need your take.

  85. chaptokam says:

    Kittykat46
    Thanks for that bit of lecture on DNA .

    The very fact that the only reason that Anwar has been habitually associated with homosexuallity is that he is somewhat connected as the saying goes no smoke no fire .

    Regarding my comment on Anwar’s American trip , it is said that whenever Anwar visits the US or the UN he never fails to disappear for two hours or more in all his trips . Even his aides and his entourage have no idea where he disappears to during that period of no show . It is believed that some arrangements have been made for him to expunge his urges and craves ..It is for this reason I believe TDM knew about it and the Americans particulary like Anwar as they could possibly have a puppet just like Afganistan’s Hamid Kazai . Won’t be surprised they have DVDs on Anwar too .

  86. chaptokam says:

    Orang Utan

    BobbyNZ,

    Rather than talkcock, if u can provide a logical & practical explanation to my questions and convince me with yr answer than I will turn 360 degree and fully supoort u in whatever u say.OK?

    1. How is it possible that a 61 yr old man with previous back surgery and back pain can subdue a bull like a 23 yrs old six footer before being raped & sodomised?

    2.How is penetration possible when the anus hole is so small and tight when the poor victim is struggling about?

    You don’t mind I answer on his behalf .

    Anwar’s back surgery has obviously rectifed his slip disc condition which was giving him back pains . Similarly a guy who has a knee cap replacement thru surgery will undergo psychotheraphy within one week of operation and should be walking within two weeks . In other words Anwar back surgery should not be a factor now as the surgery was done a few years ago .
    As for subdueing a six footer , I feel he was never subdue . Imagine a guy who joined Anwar’s team gets promoted to his aide within three months is something to think about . I believed Saiful if you look at him carefully looks like a homosexual and I have reasons to believe that they were taking their time to enjoy it together and was never subdue and many were led to believe . If I am not mistaken there were as many as six or eight times . And this led many to question why Saiful only chose to report now and not the first time when he was sodomised . That is one question on everyone lips and only Saiful can answer that .
    On whether Anwar could still sustain a erection , should ask Chua SL as he is about the same age as Anwar . A 100 mg viagra should do it , it comes in various gm starting from 50,100,200and 500gm. Normal usage is aroung 50 to 100 for those still able to sustain an erection but not hard enough . This should be able to last for a few rounds .
    On whether penetration is possible when the anus is hole is small and tight . Assuming that Saiful is a virgin and the hole is small , yes the anus is small but it can expand as in the case when you are shitting hard stools . The hard stools when it comes out is roughly the diameter of the penis and it is hard and long . Of course it is tight and that’s where the pleasure comes from .
    Imagine the womans vagina , it can expand until the size of the head of the baby . Same explanation here . All it needs is some lubricant

  87. danil daud says:

    Fantastic! Fantastic! ,all you umno goons. The law enforces are strap neatly under your armpits,fabrication,tampering of evidence,producing false witnesses in the court of law is the name of the game. I wonder why Ian Chin still choose to be a Judge, is it not against his conscience , barring in mind he has to rely on the prosecution team that notably works contrary to the rule of law ,to make a ruling

  88. Hamidah says:

    To those UMNO leaders who have intention to plant new DNA sample of DSAI into the Crime Scene/Sample and to frame up on DSAI, may I ask you to go to HELL!! Najib supporters/Najib cybertroopers here, check your conscience!! If not join those despicable and wicked UMNO leaders to go to HELL!!

  89. Hamidah says:

    It is clear that Chaptokam from the way he writes here, is a UMNO dog/cybertrooper who does not have conscience.
    It is clear that NajibManaukau from the way he writes here, is a Najib dog/cybertrooper yang tak ada maruah langsung.

  90. chaptokam says:

    Hamidah (07:13:42) :

    It is clear that Chaptokam from the way he writes here, is a UMNO dog/cybertrooper who does not have conscience.
    It is clear that NajibManaukau from the way he writes here, is a Najib dog/cybertrooper yang tak ada maruah langsung.

    Aiyoyoy Hamidah

    You don’t expect everyone to sing the same tune . There are some who sing out of tune and there are some who sing a different tune . Please lah don’t brand people who sing different tune as government stooge , is a UMNO dog/cybertrooper who does not have conscienc . So people in this world must all sing together in synchronise harmony . I thought we have synchronise swimming , never knew we have synchronise thoughts .

  91. chand says:

    Regarding my comment on Anwar’s American trip , it is said that whenever Anwar visits the US or the UN he never fails to disappear for two hours or more in all his trips . – chapkotiam

    It is also said that Rosmah knows if Najib is a bugger or not.
    It is also said that Najib could have buggered Saiful and is shifting the blame. It is also said that Mahathir fascination with Sodomy is because he was buggered as a kid.
    It is also said that Rosmah was at the scene of the blowing up of Altantunya and polive investigations so far have been a `cover-up`.
    It is also said that Badawi examined evidence before calling RPK Liar.

  92. Hamidah says:

    Chaptokam, it is so easy to know that you are a UMNO lapdog cum cybertrooper who comes to talk crap here.

    What a crap Chaptokam is writing….
    “Synchronise swimming….” …. sh*t comparison
    “Regarding my comment on Anwar’s American trip , it is said that whenever Anwar visits the US or the UN he never fails to disappear for two hours or more in all his trips . Even his aides and his entourage have no idea where he disappears to during that period of no show . It is believed that some arrangements have been made for him to expunge his urges and craves ..It is for this reason I believe TDM knew about it and the Americans particulary like Anwar as they could possibly have a puppet just like Afganistan’s Hamid Kazai . Won’t be surprised they have DVDs on Anwar too .” …. sh*t

    By the way, eat your own medicine or formula….chaptokam
    There have been many many times UMNO leaders like Abdullah Badawi, Najib and TDM who excuse themselves for a short while in midst of some public functions whether in country or overseas, maybe they goto toilet or what…
    But based on chaptokam storyline, they must also be indulging in some sex activities in that period of no show. It is believed that some arrangements have been made for them to expunge their urges and craves. Won’t be surprised there could be DVDs on Abdullah Badawi, Najib and TDM too.

    Chaptokam, your kind of sh*t buang masa saya actually. Check your conscience!! Before you rot in HELL together with some wicked UMNO leaders

  93. Menyalak-er says:

    G’day kawan2,
    Well since this is friendly site, i think we shouldn’t degenerate to calling each other dogs/cats/other names except by self or common consent.
    I have noticed chaptokam’s (i.e. “Chap-Tou-Kum” = ‘pick up gold’ in Cantonese – go figure?!) having a more fluid way of writing.
    I wonder this is the same as ‘captokam’ of previous blogs – full of banalities and inanities. Enuff sleep p’haps or added an extra degree overnight?
    Whatever… he is welcome to his own delusional world(s); but be forewarned that there are 2 or maybe more alter-egos working here.
    Besides being homophobic and towing for time as per dopey’s line, he now reveals himself to be a deceiver – and is now posting unverifiable “nuggets” of fool’s gold (e.g. inside ‘knowledge’ of DSAI’s visits to US) to provoke, and of course to open up a window of opportunity for others of similar ilk.
    BobbyNZ, Ayoyosamy, Najib Manakau are monomanaics harping on the same old tired storylines – they’re irritating but benign. Interesting even!
    The more insidious threats (if this is the proper term) is where there is “all smoke and no fire”… where recruitment and psychological warfare starts – as per chaptokams’ of today!
    Sic them guys/gals! But let them have their say…
    Cheers.

  94. chaptokam says:

    Menyalak-er (10:08:21) :

    My friend,
    Thanks for your piece up there , for your info I have in all blogs used Chaptokam.
    This‘captokam’ of previous blogs – full of banalities and inanities. Enuff sleep p’haps or added an extra degree overnight? is not my username and I have never used it before .

    I am a Buddhist and if you notice my writings I never call people Names unless they start it first and no profanities . I respect other peoples views on current affairs and I expect others do same to me .

    That’s why I use chaptokam as in Thai it is Jatukam , the two brothers who become god and worship in Nakon Si Thammarat , Southern Thailand . I go on pilgrimage to Thailand a few times a year to visit all the top monks in Thailand .

    That’s all that I think I will reveal right now . but for mankind perhaps you should know that we have only four more years to make good . see my article below .

  95. chaptokam says:

    There will be many changes in the coming years till 2012 dec 21st .
    Between now and that time is the time of the awakening .During these four years period ,people round the world would begin to see the truth , who are devils and who are human , in other words we will know who speaks the truth are good man and who speaks the untruth and cannot be believed .
    This is caused by what we termed the ending period of the earth and the beginning of a new period . In religious terms its the coming of the new Buddha Matrieya , coming of the new messiah , the second coming of christ , or worst people tend to associate this period as the end of the world .
    But its not the end of the world or civilisation , its the awakening of the human species in unity with the cosmic forces of the universe .
    That is why today , after 50 years we have woken up . In the US is also the same , suddenly you have a African American being nominated as a potential US President . You would never imagine this happening at all until now .
    There will be a purging of all the humans who have accumulated bad karma .
    This is done thru natural disasters which will be more intense as we approach 2012 .
    What will happen in 2012 ??
    Already we are experiencing a pole shift right now of 26 degrees . The true north has shifted and its no more in the north pole . It has shifted to Siberia .
    All these info can be obtained from NASA or JPL ( jet propulsion lab) Because of this shift we are seeing ice caps , glaziers melting . By September Greenland will no longer have ice and so is the artic north . But Western governments are not telling you this , to them is global warming . Take a look at China at the beginning of this year ! Guandong was covered with frozen ice for two weeks which has never happen . There was snow in the Aman, Jordan and in Bhagdad ,Iraq !!
    The pole shift is caused by an incoming planet called Nibiru and will be closests to earth in 2012 . This planet whose path is epiliptical visits our solar system once every 3600 yrs . will tell you more if you want to know otherwise I don’t want to waste your time and my time posting this .

  96. chaptokam says:

    And this is another posting:Hello everyone

    I feel that everyone here in Malaysia is getting very very angry and desperate especially with the BN government , its leaders , the uncertain economy , corruption , the polis , the uncertain political situation here .

    Nobody can fix the situation right now and on everyone’s lips what are we going to do ? is there any future here for us ??

    I believe there will be changes coming soon and I believe this will be good for all Malaysians .

    I will try to explain what I am are saying in spiritual terms ok ! There is hope and don’t despair .

    In the olden days they use to refer emperors and kings and even messiahs as sons of god . right ! agree ?
    Even right now , Presidents of nations , kings and prime ministers are all chosen by god , born to be king or born to lead . Thats why we have this phrase : man proposess, god disposess .
    To be a president or a prime minister you have to be chosen by god that’s why NOT anyone can be a prime minister or a king or a president of a country .Even if you are the number two in the heirachy if you are Not destined to be no one you will not make it no matter what you do .
    Think about that and equate that to the current situation in Malaysia .ok
    Anwar was supposed to be PM but did not make it , instead Badawi made it .
    Next we must ask ourselves why was Badawi chosen and this time and not Anwar by the gods ??

    Answer is :
    To destroy or dismental the the bad policies of UMNO in the past few decades .
    All the things we mentioned that UMNO did in the last 50 yrs that we all so pissed off is happening now . However it will take some time .
    Today we are seeing the evolution : UMNO crumbling , internal fights , Mahathir legacy exposed as dictatorial , NEP crumbling , racist policies being replace with multiracial policies , exposure of judiciary corruption , exposure of tainted and corrupted politicians etc etc etc . Equate that to the whole scenerio . We have 50 yrs of bad rule slowly going down the drain. God works in very strange ways by putting a sleepy ,slow guy as PM .

    Since Badawi’s job is still not yet finish , the two fighting to become PM will still have to wait for it.Whether they are destined to take over from him no one knows yet irrespective of all the political dramas and moves . It might not be either one of them , might end up to be someone else chosen by god .Right now all the bad karma are now flowing back to the people responsible for it .Just take a good look at TDM is one good example .

    Eventually after the cleanup process someone who replaces Badawi will ensure that Malaysia will be a better country to live in .That is what is happening right now , our country is in the middle of an evolution , politically .
    The N in Rahman does Not indicate it is Najib ,could be New to indicate a new period of leadership . If Anwar is destined to be PM no one can change that except god .However I believe that will not happen as he is not the chosen one .

  97. chaptokam says:

    Hamidah (09:42:59) :

    Chaptokam, your kind of sh*t buang masa saya actually. Check your conscience!! Before you rot in HELL together with some wicked UMNO leaders

    Hamidah , I only have this to say to you .

    In the first place as a muslim you don’t condemn people to rot in hell for he has done nothing wrong to you or to your family . He has just posted a comment neither telling that person to rot in hell or calling him names . As a Buddhist I believe what you said to me will go back to you a s your karma . Om Mani Pat Mi Ohm .

    Religion is a gateway of understanding God.
    Studying the scriptures is the key of knowing God
    Prayer is the door of meeting God.
    Applying the principles is knowing who you are

    Watch your thoughts, they become words.
    Watch your words, they become actions.
    Watch your actions, they become habits.
    Watch your habits, they become character.
    Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.

  98. Hamidah says:

    “Regarding my comment on Anwar’s American trip , it is said that whenever Anwar visits the US or the UN he never fails to disappear for two hours or more in all his trips . Even his aides and his entourage have no idea where he disappears to during that period of no show . It is believed that some arrangements have been made for him to expunge his urges and craves ..”
    – Chaptokam

    Suddenly act to be a religious buddhist now! talk crap again??

    Eat your own medicine/formula.

    In the first place as a religious buddhist you don’t anyhow assume and assault a person like DSAI whenever he was in short period of no show as expunging his urges and craves. He has done nothing wrong to you or to your family. Funny thing is when Najib, Badawi and TDM are in short period of no show, you dun think they are expunging their urges and craves. Paint picture selectively??

    DSAI was merely going to restroom or just taking a break (objectively as in the case of Najib, Badawi and TDM) and DSAI neither accused you chaptokam as expunging your urges and craves.

    As you claimed to be a Buddhist it is believed whatever you superficial level of accusation on DSAI will go back to you immediately as your karma .

    I advise you to check your conscience again. Because with your selective and superficial accusation levelled against DSAI to biasly uphold some wicked UMNO leaders, your karma won’t be much better than those wicked UMNO leaders most probabaly rotting in hell!! And if you really believe in Karma and not talking crap here……

  99. passerby says:

    chaptokam suka cakap nonsense saja

  100. chaptokam says:

    Hamidah

    Are you having your period now ? Normally woman aound this time tend to be more stress up and very emotional . They get agitated very fast and starts throwing tantrums at the very slightest provocation .

    What I wrote is ::

    it is said that whenever Anwar visits the US or the UN he never fails to disappear for two hours or more in all his trips . Even his aides and his entourage have no idea where he disappears to during that period of no show . It is believed that some arrangements have been made for him to expunge his urges and craves ..It is for this reason I believe TDM knew about it and the Americans particulary like Anwar as they could possibly have a puppet just like Afganistan’s Hamid Kazai .

    I used the word ;:; IT IS said ……… I didn’t accused him ……

    You have also made the assumption that DSAI was merely going to restroom or just taking a break . I don’t know about that maybe you would know better as I presumed you followed him in to the restroom otherwise how would you know he went to the restroom !!! ?

    My religion teaches me to do the right actions . Are you so sure that didn’t happen ?? Anyway are you also so sure that Anwar is innocent ? and that Saiful was not sodomised by him ??

    Talking about crap or as passerby says ” chaptokam suka cakap nonsense saja ” is better than bad mouthing or telling me to rot in HELL together with some wicked UMNO leaders .

    I am answerable to my own actions and karma . Are you ????

  101. Anonymous says:

    chaptokam, eat your own medicine/formula

    it is also said that Najib, Badawi and TDM sometimes disappear for two hours or more in their trips .

    It is said that there may be possibilities that some arrangements have been made for Najib, Badawi and TDM to expunge his urges and craves .

    I used the word ;:; IT IS said ……… I didn’t accused them ……

    You have also made the assumption that Najib, Badawi and TDM sometimes disappear for two hours or more in their trips were not for them to expunge his urges and craves .

    I don’t know about that maybe you would know better as I presumed you followed Najib, Badawi and TDM when they disappear for two hours or more in their trips otherwise how would you know they were not expunging his urges and craves .

    It is also WIDELY said that Najib was involved in Altantuya case. My religion teaches me to do the right actions. Are you so sure that didn’t happen ?? Anyway are you also so sure that Najib is innocent ? And SELECTIVELY??

    “Are you having your period now ?”- Chaptokam
    The way you try to insult women does not align to religious behavior you self proclaimed. You are exposing your own hypocrisy by the way.

    Seriously Chaptokam a crap like you is wasting my time to blast you.

    Anyway Chaptokam your hypocrisy and your crap are exposed. And at least other people have a better insight what kind of crap you are. And that is even your consolation.

  102. Menyalak-er says:

    Tsk, tsk, tsk lets not talk about religion shall we?
    Otherwise very hard to get along! Very personal – but “heaven and hell” ok, since most of us do agree with it.
    Let us not articulate like Bung Mukhtar shall we, most disgusting…
    My apologies for a simple-minded mistake linking a dialectical pronounciation to a metaphorical supernatural.
    But I also disagree strongly that anyone should cast filthy asperations to “missing periods” for anyone else – because we sometimes do that, to have some quiet time or to run a personal errand (e.g. buy a gift or two, etc.). I do that all the time on ‘missions’, and my ‘staff’ oso go bonkers during that period, because there is no need to tell, nor do they need to know.
    Certainly i’m not meeting with the CIA/NSA/Mossad! Mugabe maybe…
    Cheers.

  103. chaptokam says:

    Anonymous (19:12:42) :

    Are you having your period now ?
    The way you try to insult women does not align to religious behavior

    Are you saying that having your period is an insult ?? Don’t all woman have monthly periods ?? And don’t you think that during that period of time their mood changes ?? you see when I say something that happens naturally to women , you say its an insult . And when people ask me to go to hell you rejoice and defend that person . What sort of a person are you ?? A person who’s neither a he or a she ! A pondan ?

    My religion tells me I have every right to defend myself from devils ……
    And as I said i will not take it lying down for people to blast or crap me .
    If you can’t take the heat go fly kite !
    I don’t have to be a hypocrite to speak my mind . I don’t need to call people dogs , cats , craps , I can stand on my own against a whole bunch of cybertroopers . If you think you want to be superstar among the proAnwaris go and post your comments in MT , you will be rewarded with hundreds of + for your comments , not here , no vote up or vote down or comment deleted .

    I don’t have to be a hypocrite to write or sing what you want to hear . I write whats in my mind . I don’t have to tell Anwar what he wants to hear , I’ll tell him straight into his face what I think of him .

    And don’t put words in my mouth or write some assumption when I have not even mentioned their names . You want to take me on ! you are welcome ! , calling yourself annoy mous , ops ! wrong spelling .

  104. chaptokam says:

    Menyalak-er

    No problem we are matured people . I don’t know you but from the way you write you are an intellectual and intelligent person . Cheers to you .

  105. Anonymous says:

    chaptokam – ‘A person who’s neither a he or a she ! A pondan ?’
    chaptokam – ‘As a Buddhist …’
    chaptokam – ‘Prayer is the door of meeting God.’
    chaptokam – ‘Don’t all woman have monthly periods ?? … you see when I say something that happens naturally to women’
    chaptokam – ‘I can stand on my own against a whole bunch of cybertroopers’
    chaptokam – ‘If you can’t take the heat go fly kite !’

    chaptokam, you hypocrisy is exposed. Real buddhists will see discrepancies lie in your statements. You can continue to pretend a buddhist with your lousy craps and nonsenses, no doubt you are a hypocrite cum UMNO cybertrooper.

  106. Buddhist says:

    ‘My religion tells me I have every right to defend myself from devils ……’
    – chaptokam
    ‘You want to take me on ! you are welcome ! , calling yourself annoy mous , ops ! wrong spelling’
    – chaptokam

    No, real Buddhism does not sound like that seriously. Chaptokam, hope you do not mean to cause damages to Buddhism.

  107. chaptokam says:

    Anonymous (05:29:14) :

    You can say what you want to say about me

    I will continue to write what I think of Anwar the hypocrite and the despot .

    cheers .

  108. chaptokam says:

    Buddhist (06:13:02) :

    Buddhism is a way of life . I can never cause damage to Buddhism .

    Seems like the annoymost and the one who calls himself buddhist and the one who post as Hamidah are ll one and the same person or all in the family .

    No, real Buddhism does not sound like that seriously.

    I wonder how does real Buddhism sounds like Hahahaha

  109. chaptokam says:

    By Courtesy of RPK

    The cult called PKR

    The PKR crowd is one emotional group of people. I suspect that if Anwar was to order them to commit mass suicide they might just do so. And that is dangerous, as time and time again history has proven. If Anwar could get a religious scholar somewhere in the world to come out with a fatwah (religious decree) that if you die for PKR you will go straight to heaven where 70 virgins are waiting for you, I bet we will not be short of candidates who will volunteer to undertake suicide missions.

    The PKR people revere their idols and appear to lose their senses when in the presence of these demigods.

    Yes, cults are dangerous. If there is one thing that will be the death of PKR it will be the cult culture. People refuse to see things for what they are. Common sense no longer prevails when you look at things from the angle of cults. And Ezam was one such cult figure. And Ezam could do no wrong. Even when Lokman revealed the truth and exposed Ezam for what he is, it was Lokman and not Ezam who was punished.

    When will PKR ever learn? Ten years on and it is still so immature and can’t seem to understand that you just can’t build a party based on personality cults. And PKR will get burned many more times before it wises up. If the survival of PKR is centred on personalities, then it will not go far. Personalities come and go. And if the party’s future is tied to these personalities then the party will disappear when these personalities do.

    And this is what I wrote:

    written by Chaptokam, July 13, 2008 | 15:08:46
    Hi Pete very very good article and this is what I have been saying all along .
    Glad you said it .
    If I had said this ;The PKR crowd is one emotional group of people. I suspect that if Anwar was to order them to commit mass suicide they might just do so.

    And that is dangerous, as time and time again history has proven. If Anwar could get a religious scholar somewhere in the world to come out with a fatwah (religious decree) that if you die for PKR you will go straight to heaven where 70 virgins are waiting for you, I bet we will not be short of candidates who will volunteer to undertake suicide missions.

    I would have been MASSACRED by the PKR cybertroopers .

    These Anwar cybertroopers have ABSOLUTE loyalty to their culture . ” BLIND LOYALTY ” and is like the blind leading the blind or the blind leading the those who can see .

    Yes, cults are dangerous. If there is one thing that will be the death of PKR it will be the cult culture. People refuse to see things for what they are. Common sense no longer prevails when you look at things from the angle of cults.

    I reckon them to be like the times in Germany before and during the second world war . Where everyone would shout Heil Hitler ! even at a Nazi flag or a photograph of Hitler . They would even go to the extent of prosecuting their own relatives who dissent and shot by firing squad .

    I hope this article will bring some sanity to some people . You will know who they are once this comment gets posted . Expecting them to bash me .

    Peace my friend .You are truly great RPK .
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  110. chaptokam says:

    To the three muskeeters

    Anwar the great perfomer in deceit .

    Anwar claimed that when they took him to HKL , he was STRIPPED NAKED and they took measurement of his GENITALS .

    Zaininah Mohd Zain, the director of the Kuala Lumpur Hospital (HKL), confirmed that Anwar Ibrahim was not made to strip naked.

    She stated: “At no time throughout the examination was his decency violated.”

    This was what Malaysiakini published:

    Zaininah said that prior to the examination, two specialists had explained in detail the examination procedures to Anwar in the presence of his lawyer.

    “Only after having obtained his written consent did they proceed with the examination,” she said.

    After signing the necessary documents, Anwar was examined by two specialists whom Zaininah described had “adhered to proper clinical procedures during the whole course of the examination”.

    But after he was released from overnight police custody and again at Malacca, Anwar told a different story, that he was stripped naked during the medical examination.

    Only one of them can be telling the truth!

    I would solidly say Dr Zaininah is telling the truth . So who’s the one lying ?

    Regarding his back pain and his back surgery where everyone has been saying how could a 60 year old guy with a back surgery and back pain sodomise a 23yr old guy .

    Does this look like he is 60yrs old , walk slowly , physically not in good condition??
    NO lah he is still very energetic , NO signs of his surgical problems , no back pain ,travel to Malacca and immediately after that going on a whirlwind tour of the whole country !! If he is not doing that he is most probably overseas in Hong Kong , Philippines , in Europe or in the US . Wonder who’s financing all these trips ?

    So does it look like he is still physically incapable of what Saiful claims he did to him ???

  111. commentator says:

    Chaptokam, you present yourself clearly as a UMNO cybertrooper and a fool. Guess nobody wants to entertain your nonsense anymore.

  112. Dr.C says:

    Aiyo,Our busy prime minister has not had time to watch discovery channel programmes. If he had he would know that they they were able to obtain DNA from a 3000 year old cadaver. 10 YEARS MY FOOT. If you are really that ignorant it would have been better if you kept it to yourself and talk so santimoniously and tell the simple people that there is no ulterior motive.
    I don’t have to be an anwar supporter to realize that something stinks. Guilty or otherwise he needs a fair hearing and is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Here it look like they have decided he is guilty and looking to make it an airtight case with no leaks.
    Knowing the level of incompetence they going to screw up all over again.
    I think they do not realize that the inevitable will happen.
    Change is inevitable , it is an idea whose time has come and crosses all racial and religious boundaries
    There is no more room for racial and ethnic parties in this present error.
    And if not Anwar ther will be others to take his place , the seeds have been sown and it is just a matter of time

  113. Dr.C says:

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  114. chaptokam says:

    commentator (21:40:27) :

    I don’t need to be entertained , I am not Anwar . When i need it I’ll call you . Bring along some lubricant .

  115. chaptokam says:

    I’ll be happy if I can just post my comments without Anwar’s cybertroopers passing all the stupid remarks and calling names .

    These Anwar cybertroopers have only one thing ” BLIND LOYALTY ” and is like the blind leading the blind .

    If you want people to support your cause or Anwar’s or PKR cause please comment intelligently and not jump into conclusion by immediately branding that guy as pro BN or BN faithful dog or goon or whatever .

    You are doing more harm to Anwar as people reading your comments will have a low opinion and the quality of people supporting Anwar .

    Their comments are full of hatred with very strong emotions knowing very well it looks stupid . Sometimes its atkin to a pack of hynennas tearing apart a helpless deer going for the kill on any comment not pleasing to their eyes .

  116. passerby says:

    Chaptokam: “When i need it I’ll call you . Bring along some lubricant .”

    Quite obvious, Chaptokam’s statements severely contradict with what he claimed to be a religious budhhist. Seem like Chaptokam wants to achieve:-

    1) Bringing negative views about Anwar Ibrahim
    2) Suggesting his own views are credible by claiming to all he is a religious person
    3) Putting himself in the name of a Buddhist as he doesn’t really care the image of Buddhism

  117. passerby says:

    Yeah one more thing. As I read back, I read this
    Chaptokam: “My religion tells me I have every right to defend myself from devils ……”

    Quite obvious too, Chaptokam’s thinking tends to be more like Osama’s than Buddhism we know of.

  118. Malaysian says:

    Biasalah ni di Malaysia.
    1) UMNO’s controlled judges. Correct correct correct. STUPID!
    2) UMNO’s fabricated sodomy accusation. Saiful went to Najib’s house to report, instead of police station? VERY STUPID!
    3) UMNO’s controlled police. Sent a big crowd ot policemen to arrest someone when police has problem to show that police report made by Saiful? Police provides special protection to Saiful? VERY VERY STUPID!
    4) UMNO’s cybertroopers. Like chaptokam? Can’t be NOT STUPID!

  119. Amin says:

    Eh Malaysian, mana boleh u lupa satu lagi yang STUPID. BODOWI.
    Hahahaha…

  120. chaptokam says:

    To passerby

    We have Buddhist monks demonstrating , we Buddhist monk fighting a repressive govt in Myanmar . Are you saying they also don’t care about the image of Buddhism ?? I have mentioned this before Buddhism is a philosophy and one’s thoughts and actions . I am prepared to accept my karma based on my actions or my comments . No matter how holy you are if you chose to support an unholy cause or a devil in angels disguise , that person too will lose all his merits . I choose to unmask that person . If I am right then I shall reap my merits . If I am wrong then I shall have my merits deducted . Lawyers too fall into this category . If the put a guilty guy in jail they will be rewarded . What if they put an innocent guy into jail ? At the same time they can also get a drug trafficker or a murderer release thru their brillance in court . What judgement do you think he will receive from god ?
    I recommend you to read RPKs articles on good muslims , bad muslims .

    Lastly we are all mortals and humans , we have mistakes , we are not perfect otherwise we won’t be here , right !!! We will be judged when the time comes .

  121. chaptokam says:

    passerby (06:23:44) :

    Yeah one more thing. As I read back, I read thisChaptokam: “My religion tells me I have every right to defend myself from devils ……”

    I think this sentence is correct . In all religions as long as we don’t harm , kill , steal , lie , steal people’s wife , commit adultery we are on thr right path . However you have every right to defend yourself from any anybody who chose to harm you . In this case when I have not chosen to call people names or profanites , there are who have attacked me and call me names , I have my rights to return what i have been called or I chose to ignore the comment or I can explain the reasons for saying that as what I am doing now .

    You have to realise there are two sides of a coin , what might be poison to some might be honey to the rest . You may not like what I say , doesn’t mean that everyone agrees with you . You might be surprise those who do not comment but are reading our comments might agree wiyh me or might not agree with me .

    You can accept what I write or reject what I write if it is nonsense , but on that particular commentator I don’t quite like the way he worded his statement . Would you comment against those people who called me names ?

    Cheers !

  122. passerby says:

    Chaptokam: “When i need it I’ll call you . Bring along some lubricant .”

    Think twice yourself. You claimed to be a religious person. You only have yourself to disgrace.

  123. chaptokam says:

    passerby

    Wasted my effort posting all that .

    Looks like you are really a passerby , bye bye .

  124. chaptokam says:

    passerby , buddhist ,annoy most , hamida all have the same manner of writing ,
    you are exposed .

  125. passerby says:

    chaptokam, you are really a fool. No wonder nobody wants to argue with you anymore.

  126. chaptokam says:

    passerby

    You tak ada standard ! !

  127. Eillom says:

    Guys,

    We can split hairs till the cows come home about the merits of getting new DNA evidence from Anwar. Fact remains, even if they use a “usable” old sample and find a perfect match, Anwar is going to claim that it was a setup and his DNA has been tampered. We will be back at this stalemate. Only way forward is for an independent forensic analysis to be performed.

  128. Anonymous says:

    passerby, don’t waste your time with this lousy UMNO cybertrooper cum hypocrite called chaptokam. lets us save some energy to change the rotten government. when chaptokam hypocrisy is exposed, he simply shoots back to everyone not agreeing to his lousy craps. well chaptokam still thinks he is good in talking crap and pretending. Religious buddhist he put it, kekekeke…

  129. chaptokam says:

    Anonymous (05:51:32) :

    passerby, don’t waste your time with this lousy UMNO cybertrooper cum hypocrite called chaptokam.

    Yeah please don’t waste your time . Thank you .

    lets us save some energy to change the rotten government.

    Talk is easy , you think it’s like changing car tyres ?

    when chaptokam hypocrisy is exposed, he simply shoots back to everyone not agreeing to his lousy craps.

    Never ask you to read what I write . Its you tak boleh tahan , must read .
    Never ask you to agree to my lousy craps . Thanks for all the attention given to me .
    The truth is hard to accept .

    well chaptokam still thinks he is good in talking crap and pretending.

    Well I think positive and have the wisdom to write .
    If I am pretending I don’t have to write crap . I’ll be a hypocrite and sing praises of Lord Anwar .

    Religious buddhist he put it, kekekeke…

    Very funny but not funny , Kakakaka hehehehe……. guess this is all you can say !!!!!! Another funny man .

  130. grill says:

    The best laid plans of UMNO come to nought:

    One last ‘thing’ that does not seem right.

    The PC by Saiful’s lawyer yesterday.

    This has to be the first time that the father of an alleged victim of ‘rape’ goes public to appeal to the alleged perpetrator to co-operate with the police.

    This is the clearest evidence that this whole episode is turning into a circus.

    http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/conspiracy-dear-watson/

  131. wits0 says:

    Yes, Grill, like a tale twice told and told gain. Full of holes and sai (no, not that martial art weapon!)

  132. Menyalak-er says:

    Sayfool’s father & ‘uncle Patsy’? It figures, it’s in the genes…
    Wonder about reimbursements? Say 50k for 10min appearance?
    Getting stupider and stoopider… hope they’ll end this comedy/farce asap and throw it into the fecalent archives of Failed Um-no Political Assasination Plots ver. 201!
    Moronism without end… let’s watch who they’ll recruiting next.

  133. Anonymous says:

    umno’s wayang now need a “victim”‘s father statement to tekan anwar,
    saiful’s father statement gets into all main stream media.
    hypocrisy of umno is again seen.
    what about altantuya’s father statement gets into all main stream media?

  134. Menyalak-er says:

    Hey Anonymous, for next ‘victim’ can we put up BobbyNZ/ayoyosamy combo or our friendly Chaptokam into the plot? I think they’re more suited for the JOB…
    Sayfool too pondan/dullard-la. Votes (can’ve only 1 choice) please…

  135. Anonymous says:

    Read somewhere in internet that 20+ young man “kena paksa liwat” is referred to as ‘sh*tfull’.

    ‘sayfool’ or ‘sh*tfull’, “PERCAYALAH” rakyat Malaysia this young man under “kawalan khas polis” is so “penuh dengan tahi”.

    Reporters asked his lawyer why kena liwat so many times then only report?
    You know what his lawyer said. “How do we know?”

    Reporters asked his lawyer why can’t show Anwar police report made by Saiful?
    You know what his lawyer said. “Police must have their own reasons”

    His lawyers simply answered to questions that he has problem to answer as “can’t tell the case is still under investigation”

    Funny, When they think of announcing this saiful’s father statement to media, they don’t thinkas “can’t tell the case is still under investigation”

    Hoho, awaiting main stream media to publish altantuya father’s statement.

  136. Orang Melaka says:

    Chaptokam said this:
    Agreed with Ayoyosamy, BobbyNZ , Economist and Bush Lawyer on that issue .

    Teng ten teng ten teng….. cuba kitorang pakai otak pikir sikit

  137. chaptokam says:

    Bila ada di Melaka , cuba makan gula Melaka , bila sudah makan , otak tak paya pikir , ia menjadi , teng ten teng ten teng . Jadi , jangan makan gula melaka , nanti jadi kaki botol melaka .

  138. Joe says:

    International Coffee Boy http://www.rembau.net

    I understand the general skepticism that has greeted Mohd Saiful Bukhari bin Azlan’s police report accusing Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim of allegedly buggering him. Many Malaysians have said, “Not again…” or “Can’t they come up with something better?” Whatever your take on this may be, I think its best that everyone allows due process to take place and since the level of cynicism is extremely pronounced, there should be some sort of independent verification for possible key evidence e.g. a foreign forensic expert going through whatever tests that need to be done to prove or disprove that the said buggery took place.

    But the one thing that I could never figure out is this: When Saiful made his police report, he was identified as a special assistant to Dato’ Seri Anwar. Special assistant means someone with exclusive contact with their employer, someone who has personal dealings with their principal. But shortly after the report was made, Keadilan apparatchiks went on the offensive saying that Saiful was a mere volunteer at the party HQ – a very small, insignificant cog in the giant wheel that is Keadilan and Friends. He was described by Anwaristas as an assistant to an assistant and more specifically as a “coffee boy.”……

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