It also reported that Opposition leaders failed to influence the people at large to protest against the government.
And so on, and on, the yarn spins…(Bernama).
Earlier, I said: Hello, Bernama!
It’s nice to know you have covered Sunday’s fuel hike rally at Kelana Jaya. But there are a few confusing statements in your report. Would you care to clarify?
We’d like to know who are those “extremist organisations” who attended the fuel hike rally in Kelana Jaya yesterday?
I wonder why you singled out the Hindu Rights Action Group (HINDRAF).
Other newspapers report that there was a carnival like air during the gathering. It’s great to know that ‘extremist organisations” can organise carnivals, too, though you mentioned none of this. Your report had no color!
Oh, oh..sorry, you did mention color, when you said that many of the participants wore red.
Then you made a damning accusation.
Who are those participants at the rally – “some of whom were seen to be aggressive” – did you mean the Rock band singer who showed his butt, or those who tried to shove his butt out of the show?
You also made the event look like it had started a war zone.
Hahaha! I have friends living in Kelana Jaya and I can swear they did not “lock” themselves at home for fear of their safety. So who do you mean?
You said there was a presence of a large number of “un-identified” persons around the area. If they were ‘unidentified’, how could you recognise them?
There was reportedly many plain clothes policemen and army personnel around the area.
Surely they must be the ones to frighten off the people, don’t you think so?
Oh, there were complaints about haphazard parking? But that happens almost everywhere – markets, schools, malls, and a host of other places. But it’s a BIG crime, isn’t it?
A crime to warrant army personnel survelling the area? Wow.
And what about the Sedition Act threat on speakers of the rally? You almost made me feel like the bloody lot deserve it, don’t they?
I’d like to rebuke you for your highly irresponsible report – labelling, over-generalisation, pro-government, and lacking journalistic ethics, but I shall save my breath.
You are after all not a newspaper. Just a Barisan Nasional mouth-piece. I wasted enough time laughing at you.
* I must thank Dr. Mustafa K Annuar for pointing out this report in his blog.
ENTER THE FREE SPEECH ZONE 3 HERE
*SUSAN LOONE's Blog* 
hello? bernama stands for BERita NAtional MAlaysia, ya’ know! so aiya. biasa lah. if bernama did not report thus, then it is not bernama anymore.
Well, it’s anticipated. Most of the time, their reports are always bias against the opposition. They work for their political masters, not for the people. It’s a disgrace to the nation and her people.
They have downgraded Bolehland’s integrity and put Bolehland at par with countries like Myannmar and Zimbawe.
Bernama has always been Banana, a Gomen mouth piece bearing the worst “news” with palpable (sadistic)glee contained within its bland official pronouncements which are all too often against the sentiments of the people. A virtual functionary of the Misinformation Miniistry that exists for its own (wasted) employment interests and that of the Gomen, nothing more. An obvious dinosaur for pure propaganda and conveyance of people-insulting statements.
Well…. nothing new here. They were BIAS and They will forever BIAS.
I and my family (wife, and both of my , 3 and 6 years). We all come back in one happy family 🙂 truely sad getting to know the way Bernama reporting today rally …. Pls la save Malaysian … not save BN or UMNO.
Bernama apanama…..
those who call to complaint are BN supporters…. many kelana jaya nearby residents walk to the stadium to join, including those people live in the bungalow near the golf club.
The Jacob’s walk of life was canceled because maybe most of its participants wanted to go to Kelana Jaya Stadium…. BTW.. it was scheduled to be at Taman Pertanian Bukit Cerakah, near section 8 Shah Alam… Do the reporter know how far THE DISTANCE BETWEEN those 2 places??? Section 8 Shah Alam (where the walk of life is planned) is many many miles away from Kelana Jaya Stadium… so the security threat is never the reason… What a stupid Bernama report….
Sad old story, what can one expects from a below par company with below par reporters and below par news. Shitty heads can only produce shitty news! Balik kumpung and don’t make a fool of yourselves!
To raise the standard of your news, I will strongly suggest Bernama send their reporters for special courses in Observation and Reporting. Shitty head and those suffering from color blindness should be excluded.
As a post-independence-born Malaysian, I would like to offer my thoughts on Article 153 of the federal constitution which mentions the special position of the malays. Please note that there is no mention of the words ‘special rights’ or ‘special privileges’ in the constitution.
For too long, there has been a lack of understanding of what our forefathers had in mind when they included this clause in our much talked about social contract. To gain a better understanding, let us take a trip back in time to 1957 to actually visualise the scene then.
In a scenario where the immigrant Chinese and Indians were seeking citizenship rights in Malaysia, it is reasonable to presume that they would have had to understand and acknowledge the difficulties faced by the majority malays.
And this is where the meaning of the words ‘special position’ comes into focus. What did our forefathers mean by the special position of the malays? Did they mean that the malays would have special rights and privileges in perpetuity? Did they mean that the malays would enjoy a higher status than all the other races?
If this is what our forefathers had intended, then our constitution would have mentioned this specifically. However, the social contract or constitution does not say so.
What then, could the words ‘special position’ mean? It is reasonable to infer that our forefathers were concerned first by the fact that the malays were left behind economically despite being the indigenous majority in the country.
Secondly, they were concerned by the fact that, despite being immigrants, the Chinese and a small segment of the Indian community were relatively much better off.
The clause was therefore more so of an acknowledgment by the non-malays of the disadvantageous economic situation of the malays. The consideration given by the former to the latter when entering into the social contract for citizenship rights was agree to provide some measure of support for the malays to improve their economic standing.
If our forefathers had meant for these preferences to last in perpetuity, then there would not have been a request for a review in 15 years.
When I see the compulsory requirement for non-malay companies to hand over a certain portion of their equity to the malays for no input at all, I am tempted to ask: Is this what our forefathers had in mind? I can go on listing the abuses forever because there are plenty of them.
It is intriguing to hear senior Umno and BN leaders repeatedly asking the people to adhere to the social contract. What contract they are referring to? It cannot be the federal constitution. It is most probably some contract that they have entered into unilaterally without the agreement of the non-malays.
So it seems to be incorrect to firstly equate the words ‘special position’ with ‘special rights and privileges’. Secondly, it also seems incorrect to suggest that the malays have special rights and privileges in perpetuity and therefore, that they have a higher status than everyone else.
The non-malays only agreed to allow them preferences over the others for a finite period of time. It has now been almost 50 years since independent but has such a meaningful review of those preferences taken place at all? Absolutely not.
In fact what has happened is that successive BN governments, dominated by Umno, and especially after the 1969 tragedy, have taken the liberty to very liberally interpret Article 153. This has led to the wholesale abuse of the consideration provided by the non-malays in 1957 for their citizenship rights.
It seems to me that the real social contract of 1957 was torn up long ago by the BN government with the way in which the NEP was implemented from the 1970s onwards.
To me, the real social contract of 1957 has long been dead. I hope the day will come when the people of Malaysia in the true independent spirit will make it live again.
Then perhaps, we would not have to spend hundreds of millions ringgit on nonsensical projects like the National Service to inculcate unity amongst the races.
I have mentioned many tiimes that NEP is not constitutional and has extended its period beyond what has been planned to be necessary. 20 years has passed, but greed has set in.
Greed to benefits only a few and not the poverty stricken Malaysians. An affirmative policy that helps the poor regardless of race is needed.
I have also demonstrated that India has Muslim presidents despite being 80% Hindu. Similarly, in Australia there are Asian mayors. In America, New Zealand and many countries, top positions are for the capable not based on race or religion.
Now, let us not sweep all discussions under the carpet with the term Article 153.
Article 153 should always be interpreted together with Article 8 that all Malaysians must be dealt with fairly and treated as equal.
While the positions of the malays are respected and their heritage not forgotten, they are not meant to be the guardians of toll and wealth and collectors that usurp all money, oil and some natural resources till it is left dry.
It is important we publish this, so we do not just shiver when we hear Article 153, and begin to think of greedy ways to gain from another or use it to put down another races.
Article 153:
(1) The quotas reserved must be reasonable and the reservation of licences and permits for malays and natives must be of such proportion as may be deemed reasonable.
(2) The scope of the reservation of quotas is only with respect to positions in public service, scholarships, and other similar educational or training privileges accorded or given by the federal government.
(3) The special reservation of quotas must not affect the rights of other communities.
Apart from the provisions allowed under the abovementioned Article 153, all citizens of Malaysia must be treated as equal. This is clearly provided for under Article 8 of the Federal Constitution.
Article 8:
(1) All persons are equal before the law and entitled to the equal protection of the law.
(2) No public authority shall discriminate against any person on the ground that he is resident or carrying on business in any part of the federation outside the jurisdiction of the authority.
(3) There shall be no discrimination in favour of any person on the ground that he is a subject of the ruler of any state.
NEP: It will destroy the Malaysia.
We must demand these changes and the power is with the people. We must go against a corrupt government, a fanatic religious social structure and not accept crime rates and the NEP. We need to change Malaysia and the social structures that are not relevant for Malaysia anymore.
We need to free ourselves from these chains that make our lives not worth living.
Many countries have tried to develop an IT industry much earlier, and with more and better resources and better government than us Malaysia, and have not succeeded.
The chance of us succeeding given our handicaps was never good and will never be good. It begins with poor politics, then poor government, then poor education, and then poor business environment (e.g. small market).
What is remarkable to me is that some people have managed to make good money and build companies despite our problems – Mobif, Jobstreet, Green Packet, etc. These people proof that the government is more in the way for developing the industry than helping it.
In fact, the government would do better to get out of the way rather actually have any sort of grand plan like MSC. The real only way the government can help is by having open competitive bidding in government procurement of IT and putting competent people in charge of that.
Nothing else they do would really mean anything much. I would argue all the spending on grand projects, computer labs, computer courses etc, amount to basically waste.
There is no hope of the MSC really succeeding, but we can still benefit from better IT and that perhaps is, would be better because at least it means less waste.
The truth is there – it is no real strategy. MSC was never a great idea – it was an opportunity for government spending more than anything else and as Bill Gates told us very politely, it would not work because of that.
A couple of years ago, there was this idea of attracting Malaysians overseas to come back to run Malaysia GLCs. Among my extensive overseas network of business and personal associates abroad, they discussed it and unanimously shot down the idea.
The reason? Quote: “Smart people can’t stand inconsistencies in fact they rely on it. Malaysia politics make things too inconsistent to do the kind of work they do.”
You want to know why they will never attract the best in public service? At one time, we all agreed what the future of Malaysia was and will always be – secular, rule of law, multiracial, meritocracy. Today, even among those in power, there is no agreement on these basic things.
Why would the best people subject themselves to these inconsistencies? Maybe naivety but how long will that last and how many?
For every one brain that comes in, fifty brains will leave the country. With the affirmative policies in place, do not talk about attracting the brain. For decades, Malaysia was losing its best peoples to developed countries and taking rejects from developing countries.
Please forget about bring back those lost brains, while we can keep those bright students now and love them and care for them!
First, the government and country has to figure out what it want to be first before it can really retain the best, otherwise we are merely exploiting those who do not have better choices elsewhere.
I still remember of my junior wanted to serve in our Malaysia air force and he was able to design war fighters, but instead he was not retained, he headed south Singapore and he was happily married down there, has a happy family and no way back!
People with the best brains inadvertently mean they know how to think. Therefore they are wise enough not to choose Malaysia as their destination, as it could spell disaster to their reputation as we work differently. Singapore will still be the ideal landing point of such calibre people.
Malaysia will forever be suffering from a massive “brain drain” so long as the Umno-led government keeps in place the malay agenda. To forego the agenda is too costly sacrifice which the Umno malays cannot make. A clear symptom of an inferiority complex.
What do ypu expect the Government Propaganda machine to report the truth? They will ALWAYS twist the facts of the case to convince the public and the world. That that UMNO/BN been doing for the last 50 years,
damm it, the press is sodomising the public, there is no intergrity in the news, the national news is clearing spining stories mocking and blaming anwar.
thanks to alternate media like malaysia today, malaysiakini, we woke up like being in a matrix dream, once we are aware we will never trust the press again. UMNO thinks they can control what we think and fed us garbage. playing my part as a malaysian , i slam the press for being unfair, bias, lack of intergrity and will spread my gospel around, we need justice ad urgently need press freedom. the news now insults our intelligences.
a dictatorship totalitarian goverment, we need to break free from its grip. politic gets dirtier , the press follows up.
umno has ANWAR PHOBIA, they will spin all tales trying to discredit him thro the media.
i think it a blessing in disguise, it makes the rakyat get angrier, if umno managed to survive this terms. we , the rakyat will sweep them out come next election. justice will serve to the umnoputra who sodomised the rakyat.
Was there a ferris wheel at the carnival?
The MSM is of recent gaining momentum in spinning. It hints of a BIG-TIME machinery at work. Yes, the bloggers and grassroot citizens who stand for democracy, justice and a corrupt-free governance must converge and put their minds togather for a resilient communication startegy BEFORE it is too LATE.
My hunch seems right from my keen observation of the media.
Susan can you give some prominence to this hunch please.
Bernama is a seditious organisation and a version of the Nazi Party`s Goebbellian Thoughtspeak. It is a major item in subversion of malaysian thought.
Bernama is essentially a immoral organisation.
Beraknama is a very clever lie, by pretending to be a news wire service instead of a newspaper.
Real news wire services make their living by distributing raw news feeds without editorial content. Of course, in the real world, nobody is truly neutral or objective, but most respected News wire services e.g. AFP, Reuters are reasonably neutral in their reporting. They know that they will lose their clients if they get deliberately partisan in one direction or another, because their wide range of clients have various political leanings of their own.
Some people, even on this forum, have been fooled by Beraknama to the extent “It was reported on Beraknama, so it must be true”….hahahaha……
pity the reporter, if he report otherwise….he’ll know the consequences. everything the goverment agencies do must be political propaganda in nature. go to hell with good governance! that’s why these umno bodos thought that goverment agencies, universities, banks etc belong to UMNO. Actually you can see this , what had happenned to the 5 states after march 8
My writing on this issue:
Spinning Report on Fuel Price Hike Rally
Link:
http://sagaladoola.blogspot.com/2008/07/spinning-report-on-fuel-price-hike.html
Lousy journalist from a government bereucracy. How la other national news agencies trust level on Bernama after this? I remember the CEO of bernama coming out proclaiming bla bla at the launch of Bernama TV. Seemed that those are lies … Like what AAB said, many people like to lie nowadays .. except him.
I also read the attempt by the Malay nationalistic group (MMKM) in refuting the article by Raja Aziz Addruse and Helen Ting in NST Sunday. Wonder why NST allow such racist group to put forth their positions when they do not extend the same priveledge to groups like Don Jiong or God forbit… Hindraff, the ‘Tamil tigers”. Comparing both articles, one is written with reference to other documents/ research and the other one is … uhmm.. a good attempt. It is like reading the judgement of ex CJ Ahmad Fairuz and compare it to to Richard Melunjun’s judgement in Lina Joy’s case. You just know where quality sits. But as usual in Malaysia, it is not facts that decide the matter but emotions and who shouts louder. Esp. when the article have threats like “I think it is not safe” and”It is a sensitive issue and no one should question it”. Excellent summary of a ‘debate’ by a Tan Sri is that the other side should keep quiet. (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sunday/Columns/2286159/Article/index_html)
If Hindraf is extremist, then Bernama is a terrorist organisation.
Hello all,
Its very obvious right? The federal government controls the media press and the newspapers. You guys cant expect that them to show bad things about the government, right?
They are doing their jobs anyway in order not to lose their rice bowl. They all know the truth, facts and everything happening in the country. But is unfortunate that the truth has to be keep for themselves. If all the truth revealed, most proactive and crazy-fanatic people will protest like hooligans. Than citizen starts fighting each other. Government gets a headache with the situations. Public order become unstable, and the consequences..you all can think them.
Talking about rights and speeches is just a crap. Journalist ethics? Just keep the theories and the ethics in mind. They will never exist in the life reality.
Badawi tear gassed children bearing roses. He is also a terrorist.
Where is the road?
Hey do you know?
I am stuck waiting for it
Don’t you show to me?
The back road
Pointed out to me
In the shadows
Yeah I can see
But where is the road?
I need to get back on my feet
I am waiting for so long
For something new happening
I keep hearing
News of half truths and lies
Spinning like children talk
Hey do you know?
The drum beats in the distance
The tune catching my ears
I am eager to go
Where is the road?
Hey do you know?
BERNAMA – BANANA NEWS! Good for the Banana Republic! And the Umno Republic too! Hehe!!!
Very disappointed, bernama is really a cheap media organization fail to provide genuin reports or news on Fuel Price Hike Rally yesterday. Looks like they are taking sides and report more fake news on BN. Proven they are stupied bias.
Banana news is like japanese banana money after ww2.
I am from kelana Jaya and leaving around or near the stadium where the rally took place. It was usual as any other soccer/games held there before without any traffic obstruction or traffic chaos thanks to Unit Amal Malaysia. Bernama, SHAME ON YOU.
Worst than third world country.
I left a message on Wong Chun Wai’s blog, gave him a piece of my mind how we felt when during the pre GE, how the Star fed rubbish reporting on the opposition and how unbalance was the reporting and he has no right to complain or being fed up with the current news of the sodomy.
Guess what, my comment did not passed thru his screening. He can’t take as much as what he can deliver, not to say he delivers much anyway.
shortform for bernama is BN..
Hie Susan,
Yes, we have come to expect these glaring differences between MSM and New Media.
Well, news portal like Malaysiakini can also appear to be skewed towards anti-BN, so some would say things will work out in the end. I believe you yourself believe in the power of the Internet to disseminate info.
However, on the crowd aspect, I have to disagree with your opinion.
It’s a poor turnout because PR wanted 1 million but got only 30,000. They can’t fill a 50000 capacity stadium. I think if you view it from this context, then it’s a disappointing turnout isn’t it?
On the extremist part, I guess you have also seen the video of the mob attacking the stage causing chaos for 10 minutes. I guessed they should have used “unruly”. HINDRAF? Well, that’s a topic for another day.
http://www.suaradu.com
apa2 pun, perhimpunan tersebut tidak akan memberi kesan yang besar kepada harga minyak..hanya kecoh je yang dapat plus ini adalah platform untuk Anwar meraih sokongan semata2..
On the extremist part, I guess you have also seen the video of the mob attacking the stage causing chaos for 10 minutes. -umnodu
Show your backside at umno rally and see what will happen. Just make sure najib is not there when you do it.
Anyway it`s a low turnout and need not necessarily have to meet that target when the IGP threatened the people that the army is coming out. 30,000 under the circumstances is excellent.
The turnout in Penang – Seberang Jaya was about 30,000 as well.
Taken in the context of Penang’s small population and the very small amount of publicity, this was a huge turnout. Majority Malay, but it was very much a multi-racial crowd. The atmosphere was electric.
Tell you what, if its up to Penangites, Anwar will be PM tomorrow…(Ktemoc not included)
As usual, ‘sour grapes’ story.They can’t do anything about the protest so they….you know… play dirty politics! Malaysians are sick with this kind of dirty politics.
Bernama,TV3,Rtm,- the Malaysian intellectuals have discarded them long ago.You know…. who watches them?
CNN,BBC,ALJAZEERAH covered accurate reporting and they are always more reliable.
When PR takes over govt soon.,please do reporting something like CNN,BBC,ALJAZEERAH for the world to know not hide truth.Be Fair to all!
I know PR will be the example govt for SEA.
Bernama,TV3,Rtm,- the Malaysian intellectuals have discarded them long ago.You know…. who watches them? – RKP
Rockybru, Bigdog, Wong Chun Wai, Badawi, Najib, Saiful, Rosmah, UMNODU, Ktemoc, izzatdin, Marina M. dan lain lain
with the police setting up road-blocks at all entry points to kelana jaya since friday night to intidimate the public 10,000 able to make it is very credible. I was caught in massive jam for nothing since my destination was not kelana jaya but KL
How low can a stinking BN propaganda machinery like Bernama go? Everyone knows the Bernama report is mischievously twisted to spin lies, lies and more lies on the PR! However glad to know that Bernama sent stupid reporters and got even more stupid editors to edit the reports…and the result which we get is one big stinker of the UMNO/BN making its last gasp before self destruction very shortly! PR must include Bernama in its moves to counter mischief of mainstream media as the worst of the lot…the mother of all evils in the media…fit to be consigned to toilet bowls of the country. Go to Hell with your stinking UMNO/BN masters Bernama. The rakyat are no more gullible to believe your lies spun on behalf of UMNO/BN 1001times to appear as the truth…not with all the bloggers and internet around!
KTemoc claims to be an airline pilot!!! Probably won’t know the difference between an aileron and an elevon though. More likely to be some functionary in the airport baggage/package handling department.
He has been spinning and yakking his conspiracy theories (usually founded on his 3 great signature derangements – anwar, Israel and the USA)so profusely that he became inconsistent and noted as dishonest a long time ago. Somehow it would seem really madness if he is undertaking all his blogging spins without being paid by some source. He is among the most mysterious ; not even a caricature of himself or a human name. He dares not reveal himself. Note that VK Chin,predecessor of WCW, no one even knows his full name.
Bernama are not allowed to deviate from the rules set by their own master.
Only thing that really makes them sound credible is their name. Berita Nasional Malaysia.
So, if PKR rules the country, they should change their name to Bersama.
“Berita Sahih Malaysia”.
frankly, i could walk to bernama kl office to talk personally to the one who wrote any bernama article and they have a named management committee with photographs on their website too. but anonymity in some blogs and website gives me some apprehension as to the news authenticity. still reports are only reports until things actually happen regardless of the source. i still click bernama news first because of my stocks then the star then nst followed by this blog, the scribe A kadir Jasin and jeffooi.
Propaganda propaganda…yeah right !! I support the government…yes I support fuel hike…yeah I believe Najib…yeah right I believe Immigration department cannot make someone disappear…yeah right !!!….Government is always right…we must believe the Government newspaper……….PLS don’t insult Rakyat intelligence…!!!!
I never knowingly click on a Bernama/Banana link on the web, like in Berita Malaysia. The headline is enough to spell out what’s in store.
Neither do I switch on/watch local TV at all for over a decade. Whatever “redeeming” features these have are inconsequential compared with their core purpose – to stupify via spins and lies. They do seriously insult.
Quite a stunning site and I would be honored if you could comment on mine. Keep up the work
kok, dont talk cock here oka?. One of the conditions for the pendatangs to get citizenship was o recognize special rights/positions of the malays. This is relevant then as itis now. Stop trying to change the story and renedge on the social contact. PR has no chance of taking over if they dont recognize these rights. Look at brunei, theyve learn from our mistake of giving pendatang citizenship. Most of theirs only have Permanent residency..
look at the big picture
we are all rakyat malaysia
i stopped looking at myself as a malay
i am malaysian fullstop
never underestimate your opponent
Bola Hangus
This country was all along a land for Orang Asli. The Chinese originated from China, Indians originated from India, malays originated from Indonesia etc. China get to give priority to the Chinese, India get to give priority to the Indians, and the malays are just freeloading from the Orang Asli land by claming it is bumi land.
This is because they are doing what Allah said……….Allah told malays to come from Indonesia and steal the land from Orang Asli and use Orang Asli as slaves. So when is Malaysia giving priority to Orang Asli?
The only time Malaysia is not a racist country is when an Orang Asli becomes the prime minister of Malaysia – which is never – it is a genocide in the name of Allah!
Part 1 – The origin of pendatang:
· Malays – come from Indonesia and Yunnan.
· Chinese – come from China.
· Indians – come from India.
Part 2 – Why they come to Malaysia:
· Malays – easy life, food aplenty around those days, like fish from the river etc.
· Chinese – looking for a living.
· Indians – looking for a living and goes back.
Part 3 – Pendatang’s attitude:
· Malays – the words ‘relax la’, ‘bantuan kerajaan’ and ‘cukup makan’ are their daily words.
· Chinese – work, work and work but also spend.
· Indians – work, earn and save but spend little.
Looking at the mindsets of various pendatang. You tell me is it possible to be one Bangsa Malaysia? Never! For oil will never mix with water.
If you tell the Chinese to close down Chinese schools, the children will not taught to be hardworking anymore, so they become lazy and can they ask for bantuan kerajaan?
No! Right? So let the Chinese have more Chinese schools to teach the principle of hardworking, integrity, trustworthy etc, thus others can get more shares.
Those days the government control the Chinese schools is because of communist. Now where got communist again? Bodoh!
Malays have done wonders in terms of denying truth, while doing so, through policies of government raked in ill wealth for years. Malays are rich, I mean really rich.
Malays had certain qualities that other races in this country do not, but I must emphasise “had”. Qualities such as “speaking less”, contended, know how to read and understand the holy Quran (I know that nowadays Muslim kids spent 10 years of religious classes in school and end up not knowing).
But all done and said, the day malays deny their past, is the beginning of their end. Malays were Hindus once, as was the whole South East Asia, later some South East Asia went for Buddhism while the others went for Islam.
Who taught South East Asia races to plant paddy in a systematic manner? Who taught South East Asia races language skills, reading and writing?
The very essence of everything that South East Asia races are based on till today was taught by Tamils. Don’t you guys notice that South East Asia races have similar writing codes, that are because it is based on Tamil. It even sounds like Tamil.
For peninsula: Tamils called the local inhabitants as “malai allu”, basically means “people who dwell in the hills”, this would mean Orang Asli, for they dwell in the hills, what is known as malays today was non-existent.
As malays are well known to do, they incorporated this term “malai” whence they started to land in the peninsula from Nusantara, and claimed the term “malai” as their own. This race has this peculiar trait of claiming that which is not theirs.
Deny this, and you deny your past, anyone who denies his past, denies his future. Malays……….be my guest.
Guess who is the master race? The master race doesn’t doing some weird policy (NEP), or go around brandishing some knife, which if you really put some thinking into it, put the race on a sure path to beggary.
The reason why I commented as above is because I want malays to know that they are not tuan punya tanah.
For myself, as a Tamil, I will state what my forbearers have done centuries before, the truth is, no one owns this land, this land is owned only by – the one and only one – God.
This soil needs administration, not ownership. Accept that.
Imagine our prime minister lecturing on the real facts of peace and harmony in Malaysia.
“We (government) do not practise social fairness and meritocracy. We practise racism and discrimination in our education system, university entry, jobs and housing discount allocation. We extort and blackmail non-malays through shares equity and Approved Permits. We dish out handouts to malays, etc. That is how we achieve peace and harmony in Malaysia.”
The only reason why there is peace and harmony is because the non-malays are tolerant, progressive, peace, moderate, magnanimous and loving, despite the racism, keris wielding and discriminatory policies.
If the future leader is bollocks then the future of this country is also bollocks.
The education system in this country from top to bottom is going from bad to worst, we are producing robot, incompetent, hapless, crony and brainwashed leaders.
Going by that, the track record of the Umno government is nothing less than shameful and embarrassing.
The current debate is not about political, religion or race ideology. It is about good values or rather, the lack of them in the current Umno politicians.
One must not mistake hatred against racism with hatred against race. The former is admirable, and the latter is deplorable.
From the comments of you malay, I can conclude that he is either delirious and confused or he is simply a typical Umno politician – conceited, colored-vision and paranoid.
Your comments clearly show your insecurity as well as your inferiority complex. Unfortunately, your comments suggest that your views represent all the malays.
It also shows that you, as representing the malays, concede that you are not prepared and will never be prepared, even in the future, to meet with competition. You suggest that you need to be wrapped in cotton wool for all time.
The world will not wait for you and does not owe you a favour. A big problem is that you expect the world and everyone to owe you a living. Get real the world owes you nothing!
Please don’t think that Malaysia belongs to one particular race, you are insulting yourself, and your race, don’t ever forget that some key leaders in top government are with mixed blood, not pure malays……….please know your mission as a Malaysian, to live united with the other races and fight independently with the globalised world.
Don’t be narrow-minded anymore, do correct thing to make things right.
The “bumis” stole the land from Orang Asli. By right all of Malaysia should belong to them. If recall history as the current generation of malays came over from Sumatra, Jawa, and the island around.
If your thinking remains the same – please go back to Indonesia where you can proudly call yourself bumis there.
Thank romsam for history lesson however get back to track.
On malaysiakini update the nutcase najib calls the Kelana Jaya rally a failure.
It takes one failure to recognize another it seems??
tsk tsk tsk…najib opens his stupid mouth again. Looks like he and AAB is of same ‘wave-length’!!!!
Aiyooooooooo apa nak jadi!
Hey Bernama,
U think it is the govt who paid u salary u must think where did the money came from.
it is from the taxpayers money lah.The Rakyar is yr boss lah including the govt.
vesewe, stop smoking crack. and stop using the orang asli excuse top get what you want. You dont give a shit about orang asli, you are just using them to steal bumi rights.Orang asli and malays are the pribumi of this land whether you want to believe it or not. Malays have claimed this lang long before the pendatangs came. We had goverment, language, culture and religion thus we are a legitimate nation. Same case as pedra blanca. if you dont claim it, its not yours. We are the first to claim it so its ours and backed with historical facts. The europeans were envious and jealous of this land so they had to come and steal it and occupy for 400+ years. Then came the other asian pendatangs who too are jealous of this bountiful land. We didnt get our merdeka from the brits only to hand it over to the pendatangs.
Najib said “Sunday’s rally was a failure’…
It wasn’t a failure, my dear Najib…
The fact that one million people didn’t attend, doesn’t mean less than one million are against the fuel hike la pakcik. Believe you me, the majority of Malaysians are against it la weiii.
If we cant support in attendance, we shall support in other ways la. We can drum our support in many ways la pakcik…so dont jadi budak kecik and start saying ‘Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah, your rally was a faiiilluurreee….!’
Najib, why dont you organise something, see how many people come pulak…
Minister Of Defence (and alleged sodomist) Najib tried his very best to intimidate the rally by threatening to get his soldiers out on the streets to prevent the rally.
Najib failed miserably.
Najib will fail completely.
The Government is willing to let you die, are you bold enough to do the same to them ?
I dare say I an brave enough to attend a rally, maybe be sprayed by a laced water cannon, but not being beaten by the FRU, kick or assaulted. Not lock up in Sg. Buluh or ISA. I am angry and pissed as you are, but I have kids and a wife. Who is going to look after them ? I got to worry about their future and mine too.
Unless you are ready and willing to go all the way against them, I don’t see any end to the current conflict. Like most elderly people would say, just migrate.
News on use of military in our streets seem to shut some of us up. I have seen FRU, they look pretty nasty, but at the end of day, they are to protect and serve. The army on the other hand, kills for a living.
http://apkniah.blogspot.com/2008/07/government-is-willing-to-let-you-die.html
To me, Ketuanan Melayu is the false notion of malay greatness or malay supremacy. Truth is – there is nothing to associate the malay race with greatness.
By any widely accepted standards, it will be obvious to see that the malay race does not qualify to be called one of the great races on this world. Truth is that the Chinese and Indians have a culture accomplished far greater and much more than these jokers have.
It should be Chinese and Indian supremacy in Malaysia. The only reason why malays have power in Malaysia is because they have the biggest population, and the racist rhetoric of the malay Umno politicians always sway the malay vote towards themselves.
Anyway, back to the untrue notion of Ketuanan Melayu. Let us see what malays have accomplished. Has any malay won the Nobel Prize – no. Has any malay been nominated for the Nobel Prize – most probably not.
By contrast, numerous Chinese and Indians have won the Nobel Prize and various other awards. The Chinese and Indian diaspora is widely recognized as two of the three most successful diasporas in history, the other being the Jewish diaspora. All over the world, Chinese and Indians have become successful artists, CEOs, doctors, filmmakers, scientists, writers, etc, etc.
Name one malay who is widely recognized around the world in his or her field. The only malay whose name might be recognized out of this country is Mahathir, and he is part Indian. Is malay culture recognized as a world renowned culture – no.
Malay culture, if cultures were ranked, would be close to the bottom. What is their culture compared to the great Chinese and Indian cultures that are centuries old and really rich! The Chinese and Indians have a 5000 years old history during which China and India have played a very important part in world history.
Nobody knew about malays until the Indian kings of south India first came here. That is why the oldest archeological remains in Malaysia, in Lembah Bujang, are Hindu temples.
The malay sultanate itself was started by a Hindu – Parameswara. And even at the height of its power, the Malacca sultanate was nothing more than a vassal of the Chinese emperor.
Have any malay architect designed anything worthwhile – no. Have any malay author won the Booker Prize or the Pulitzer Prize – no. Have any malay filmmaker won an Oscar – no. Have the malays achieved anything in sports – no.
Chinese and Indians have achieved all this. So there is no real Ketuanan Melayu. It is a fiction concocted by racist stupid politicians to keep the “kampung malays” happy thinking that they have had a glorious past.
They don’t. Their history isn’t worth mentioning. You would never find a mention of malays or Malaysia or Tanah Melayu in most books of world history while entire chapters are devoted to the history of China and India.
The discriminative constitution and law of Malaysia is just a recognition of this fact. The malay leaders and to every single malay knows that on a level playing field, the malays will never be able to compete with the Chinese and Indians.
The facts:
(1) Negritos are the first inhabitants in this land
(2) Proto malays came from Yunan in China
(3) Deutro malays came from Indonesia
(4) Malays are Hindus/Buddhists for 2000 years
(5) Harun and Razak plot the 1969 riot
(6) Social contract distorted after 1969 riot
(7) Bumis term never exist before 1969 riot
(8) lie – Blame Chinese control economic 70%
(9) lie – Blame Chinese/Tamil schools for national disunity
(10) lie – Blame Singapore government suppress malays
(Many more.)
No surprising with such emotion running high: More to emigrate. This is brain drain. Bolehland has no vision for its all people except for the Umno malays.
Who not afraid of the keris waving politician? Even my malay classmate emigrated to New Zealand recently, sick of the polemics and the politicising of religion here, good thing got money shall travel, no money no talk.
Should have left 10 years ago when I saw that we have no equal opportunities. But I hesitated and said there will be a change when Badawi takes over. Well! Guess that was not the case. It got worse and the future of Malaysia is bleak!
Pack my back and left the place to look for better opportunities and fight on merits. I am better off in Australia than the “dark hole” of Malaysia. At least you get respected for your recognition and skill. In Malaysia, how good you are is always a second class citizen. No promotion for us but their own kind.
NEP to malays is like drug to drug addicts. Once they started to taste it, they will never let go till they die. Tough they all know very well NEP is just like drug, not good for them in the long run, but they can’t resist the short term temptation and fall deeper and deeper into the abyss of NEP.
Since now, the NEP had become Never Ending Policy, the little hope of getting out of the NEP drug will dismiss and leading to the destruction of the malays. By then maybe all the able non-malays had already emigrated to greener pasture in overseas. I forecast 2020 year is the doom day. Thanks to selfish Umno malays.
We are at our own liberty not to live in this controversial country. The government does not discourage us to leave this country. For Chinese and Indians, Malaysia perhaps is not a good place to stay because your mother countries too with China and India are now thriving. Just leave malays to manage their own country. Let Malaysia ruin with the malays.
The Chinese culture is compatible to other cultures in the world. The Chinese will have no problem adapt to other cultures in the world. There are many China Towns in overseas countries. So the Malaysian Chinese will feel at home wherever they go.
Real sick and tired of all these Umno babiputras, the sob in Malaysia Umno babiputras!
Yes, the only realistic proposition is encourage all Chinese to emigrate to Singapore and leave Malaysia for the malays. Trouble is Singapore is so small, its land mass will not allow a huge population to live in the island.
So next choice for the Chinese to emigrate is to Australia and New Zealand. The exodus has begun. Those who can afford now have started to go. The signs are already there.
There is no future in this country anymore. In a few years time this country will be in ruins when the oil money runs dry. FDI has already dry up and gone to other countries like Thailand and Vietnam. Foreign factories have closed shop migrated to China and India.
Chinese planning to emigrate should also consider option to return to China. Some of my friends went to invest there and within a few years become millionaires. There are much more opportunities and being Chinese there shouldn’t be any problem.
By my own experience I can tell you that it is great being a new citizen in Singapore. You are judged by what you can contribute and not by some NEP policies.
The education in Singapore is also about the best in the world. Yes, even the educators from the native English-speaking countries adopt how mathematics and science are taught here.
Best of all, every time you cross the causeway to visit Malaysia you are rewarded by at least 2 or 3 times in your spending capability.
Oops……….now that this is happening, in the next 5 – 10 years, Malaysia will end up looking like the Philippines, where their main export is maids. Lack of income from tax, will see economy melt down. Skilled professionals all fled from the country.
Yet and having lived overseas, I have a nice bird’s eye view of how Malaysia is heading towards the sewers.
Malaysia has spent the last 3 decades focusing on physical infrastructure without developing the human capital. Never mind the restrictions and stifling of independent minds – let us not even go there yet.
Let us start with basic education and providing of higher education opportunities for the best and brightest. We have cultivated at least 2 generations of dumbass.
Too many unqualified malays have been force fed into colleges and universities and the end result is you have the same bunch of witless village idiots, except now they are holding a piece of paper they don’t know what to do with. A minority is absorbed back into the tertiary education system……….no prizes for guessing what that has caused over the last 30 years.
For the majority remaining, real world corporations wouldn’t even hire them if they offered to work for free. So you have a bunch of jobless numbskulls who think they are too good for the common labor jobs, which they would have ended up in anyways given their aptitude and qualification, and desire a pen-pushing corporate position (if they could push that pen to string one coherent sentence in English, that would be another thing).
So we bring in all sorts of foreign labors to do our work for us, and we have a youth bulge of unemployable (and grossly unqualified) graduates walking around with a sense of entitlement.
Sounds familiar? It should. This is what is happening in the Middle East.
This trend towards greater Islamic extremism is also no coincidence. It is merely the natural path of development that a failed society embarks upon.
The malays have failed. Plain and simple. Their policies stink, they have screwed themselves more than they have others, in fact. The only reason the shit hasn’t hit the fan sooner is because, like their desert co-religionists, they have petroleum propping them up.
That will go soon……….not totally, but it won’t be at the present rate it props the country up. And it is closer than you think.
Those who can should emigrate and get the hell out – and that includes our malay brothers and sisters who have the means to. When the dust settles, no amount of cyber cities, longest bridges and tallest buildings, are going to save you from the disaster of a fourth world country that is being developed.
I am one of the cows applying for migration. How do I feel? I feel that the world is my home. If I am not treated well here, I will go to another country.
It is not about fighting for the country or fighting for the world. I am fighting for a better life and that is what everyone craves for.
Anyway why limit ourselves to one country when we can explore to other places. We only leave once, make the best out of it.
Well, the most popular countries to emigrate are Australia, New Zealand and USA. For those who wanted to emigrate to any of these countries and not prepare to pay the extra migration agent fees should consider apply themselves, it is not difficult as long as you meet the respective country criteria.
I know because I am a migrant myself and I helped my friends to emigrate to all those countries in the past 3 years.
Bernama should be renamed Thiewnama
What’s the similarities and difference between umno malay and US ?
Similar: Both screwed and stole from the the natives !!
Difference: US acknowledges Obama.
One minute the Government ask people not to go to street protest.
Next minute they laugh and say ithe rally is a failure because no body go.
Then they threaten to jail you if you speak up and put you in the same Hilton Hotel as the Hindraf 5.
Make up your farking minds you aholes.
Racial polarisation in the country is not caused by the country’s vernacular school system but more by the government political, education and economic discriminative policies, an educationist said today.
The prime minister and all the Umno ministers will never admit that polarisation arises more out of the race-based policies and privileges one race gets over another.
Similarly, there are other areas of our daily lives where terminologies used have made us view certain practices as privileges rather than sacrifices. For instance, the bumi discount for houses.
The total sale value to the developer is still the same. It is just that the non-malay buyer is likely to be required to pay for some of the discount given to the malays.
But the longer the NEP policies continue and the greater the vehemence with which Umno politicians issue threats, terminologies will change and more people will talk about these practices or policies in words that may not sound as pleasing to the ears of the beneficiaries.
Obviously, at that point we shall probably see a new round of discriminations and disagreements. Unfortunately, as long as only weak people take on leadership roles within Umno, threats will continue, NEP policies will be sustained and corruption will prevail.
That unfortunately is the legacy we have as Malaysians.
The basic building blocks of unity, whether you are uniting different ethnic groups in a country or trying to re-engineer a corporation of differing cultural values, are the same.
The principal parties have to be treated as equals – nor special privileges no favours that would favour one group over another. Any privilege that is given should be given to all on the same basis – for example, special privilege given to the financially poor regardless of race or ethnic origin.
It is only on this equitable footing that you can foster true nationalism and build lasting unity, since each component group will have the same stake in the nation and has equal likelihood in reaping the rewards or suffering the consequences.
My recommendation to the government, not simply as a businessman but also based on pragmatism, is not to waste any more taxpayer ringgit on nationalism programmes until it has established the pre-conditions for its success.
What is sad is that, after almost five decades of independence, we have been unable in Malaysia, to bring globally-vision leaders to the forefront – leaders who can see beyond racial boundaries to recognise the immense sociological and economic potential that can benefit all Malaysians.
Najib should also swear on the Koran says Roslan:
Saya lihat fokus MUBAHALAH ini nampaknya hanya tertumpu kepada kes DSAI dan Saiful sahaja sedangkan kita sebenarnya berhadapan dengan dua kes tuduh-menuduh. Mengapa tidak sementara mereka (DSAI dan Saiful) berfikir samada mahu atau tidak melakukannya, kita alihkan perhatian pula kepada TPM Najib Tun Razak dan pihak yang menuduhnya berzina dan meliwat Altantuya (pihak yang dimaksudkan berkumpul di Ibupejabat PKR pada 3 Julai lalu).
http://n32.blogspot.com/2008/07/bukan-dsai-dan-saiful-sahaja-najib-pun.html
ruyom….I think you will agree with me that there is nothing wrong with the basic concept of NEP. Only problem is in it’s execution. It has not benefited those that it was meant to benefit but most of it has been squandered on the corrupt and the inapt apes.
Semi Value did I see you putting up your hand??
I would say categorically that if not for the scare-tactics employed by the power-that-be by stationing the armed-forces ( my be in disguise, who knows!?), plain-clothes police man and spies, and the threats of actions against would be participants, the turn-out would be 20 – 30 times more than those seen / reported to have attended.
That makes it..emmmm..someone help me with the figures, please!…
Then the DPM would say..ermmm..still not touching the million yet..
The fact that it had made the people of Malaysia aware of the protest , I would say a good part of the adult population is indeed an achievement itself….in fact the whole contryi was watching..that includes those from BN …with awe and admiration…
It had galvanised attention for the whole weekend, nationwide….what else that happened in the country had that impact..plse tell us…
Back to Bernama and those who said in envy and disbelief..that the rally had been a failure…
And just forget about the buttock..it is a non-issue…just an ‘technical glitch’..not as bad as the BURSA glitch, anyway..
..just a ‘technical glitch’..
I read some of the comments and they were completely off topic – anyhow, the pulic at large are not happy with fuel hikes (no one except maybe the petrol companies are ever happy with price increases). However, I don’t think Malaysians at large did turn out on this protest march. Even if they did, this is instigated by opposition who have no clue how to address the current fuel crisis, which is a global crisis, not just Malaysia’s. And for DS Anwar to claim he can reduce the price of fuel overnight, that is absurd. I would challenge him and ask “at what cost?”
My fellow Malaysians – dont get conned with rhetorics and claims that are not fact-filled. We need to propose ideas that will help see Malaysia through this next challenging phase, not politicising the situation and making remarks like Anwar is about Govt’s lack of response – he has no credibility especially as any drop in fuel price without the proper adjustments would affect other elements in the Govt budgets.
-Ravi
The fact that it had made the people of Malaysia aware of the protest , I would say a good part of the adult population is indeed an achievement itself….in fact the whole contryi was watching..that includes those from BN …with awe and admiration…
It had galvanised attention for the whole weekend, nationwide….what else that happened in the country had that impact..plse tell us…
Ermm…how many millions was that..can someone help me in here too..
Well, the fact that there had been mismanagement of the country’s coffer and lots of wastage…through abuse of power, unaccounted-for expenditures, corruption, ali-baba type of transactions, etc., etc., that siphoned off billions of ringgit…that could have been failrly and beneficially utilised for development projects…spell doom for the nation.
Just look at the tiny city-states of Singapore, Taiwan. Hong Kong…where there weren’t much natural resources…they are way way ahead of us…just ask why.
If not for the backward and over protective and lop-sided policies of the government, we would be at par , if not better than those city-states..
We have lost a good portion of our best brains to elsewhere….why? Even government sponsored university students have opted not to return to the country…more so those who financed their own way there…
Unfair policies, divide and rule mentality of the government, the forever biased quota-based system employed for almost all major sectors of economic, educational, social, political and developmental activities are not doing the country any good at all. In fact they have negative and repulsive effects.
Help, by all means those who deserve, especoiall our malay brothers and sisters, but not to the extent of being detrimental and unfair to everyone else…
Just anybody who is fair minded can tell what was wrong…will the government and those in the mainstrean and major political parties see this?? Maybe they don’t as there is just too much interest at stake??
Seems like there is a need to change the whole game plan..to start afresh…take away the undesireable..and replace them with fair play…same for everyone else..no skin coloured policies, to start off with..maybe… then, and only then, could there be a glimmer of hope for the future gnerations of malaysians…
I rest my case.
Help, by all means those who deserve, especially our malay brothers and sisters, but not to the extent of being detrimental and unfair to everyone else…
Susan the PM of Bolehland commented that Bloggers who spread rumours are traitors. And the DPM said that politic is getting dirtier now.
So who are the real Traitors and Dirty Political crooks in Bolehland? In my opinion:
The Guomen who allowed thousands of illegals to obtain MyKard in EM thru Project M.
The Guomen who mis-manage the Rakyat’s Fund and “hentam” all the Rakyat’s money together with their cronies.
The Political leaders who destroy the Judiciary pillar.
The Evil flur who murder Mongolian woman and tarnish the good name of Bolehland.
The Greedy and corrupted flur who ‘hentam” all the commission through the purchase of aircrafts and submarines.
The Corrupted Top Brass in the Guomen who collaborated with their evil political masters.
The Evil Guomen leaders who privatise every National asset which belongs to the Rakyat and pass them to their cronies.
The Evil ones who sodomised the votes of the Rakyat through inequality in delineation of constituencies.
The MSM which intentionally stir up racial sentiments to create hatred and chaos.
The Evil racist politicians who always utter sensitive statements which hurt the people.
And many many others…
You name it..
And for DS Anwar to claim he can reduce the price of fuel overnight, that is absurd.-Ravi
That is semi value mentality. That having been said:
Nonetheless, the police should not use Interpol to shift public attention. The threat of Balasubramaniam’s safety is from within the country. The police should immediate investigate a few obvious suspects who have an interest in Bala’s disappearance. The three key witnesses are:
– Najib: to determine whether he had influenced Bala in the retraction of his SD;
– Lawyer Arulapalam who was seen last publicly with Bala;
– The commission of oath from the law firm Zul Rafique & Partners.
However, Interpol should be asked to help with:
– interviewing the public relations officers of the Jewelry Fair in Singapore;
– locating the photographer of Najib, Altantuya and Razak in a Paris restaurant.
http://www.tianchua.net/en/2008/07/07/interpol/
Ruyom: “Racial polarisation in the country is not caused by the country’s vernacular school system but more by the government political, education and economic discriminative policies, an educationist said today…”
It never was. IOW, it was caused by umno and the sycophantic BN components whose elites went selfishly along like a headless chicken from the very start. In time everyone mostly gets confused and a litle stupid, having being mentally sodomized.
Bernama is the BN regime mouthpiece,they are pro-government and the editors could not walk by themselves and need BN to hold their hand to walk anywhere. They are not independent and rely on the government for their survival. What a shame!. Their balls are under the grip of BN regime.
Sunday rally was a success considering that the Home Minister was spewing out saliva that the army will be out working with the police to ensure all are in order. The Malaysian people are intelligent enough to see through all the BN lies and propaganda. We are basically a peaceful people ,its the police who will plant their people and create chaos in a rally.They will come in and spray tear gas and acid water on the people claiming they are keeping things in order ,when in the 1st place its was due to the government mismanagement that has make the rakyat furious. The Rakyat are simply sick and tired of the BN regime which has nearly bankrupted the nation. The good thing about all this is that this has united all the Malaysians.
A delicious quote I picked up from Tulang Besi’s blog.
http://www.malaysiawaves.com/2008/07/more-rumors-on-anwar-saga.html
“what is NOT A RUMOR, is the resolve of UMNO to stay in power. He says that UMNO people, without UMNO and power, cannot survive one second in a competitive world. They will end up working as jaga, street sweeper, toilet cleener because no one will give them high paying jobs or even loans for business. But with UMNO and power, they can drive expensive cars, live in expensive houses, eat at expensive restaurants and have expensive holidays at expensive places.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE UMNO’s RESOLVE TO STAY IN POWER.”
All that say that the rally wasn’t a success is total ‘BUNGKUM”. The real reason on the slightly poor turn-out was the doing of the BN government who forced the Police and Army to threaten the peace loving citizens that those who turned up would be hauled up and put behind bars.
So, think for yourselves : Is this true that the organiszers of th\e peaceful gathering had failed?
What the F?
simple , they spin their story and the belive the own bullshits,the press is like a damn umno politician mouth. they are corrupted to the core , after the AG, IGP, and the press. they would like to influence the rakyatmind , if there a remote control to dictate the mind of the rakyat, they will get their hands on it.
NOW, they are trying to blame anwar for all their woes, wonder who is to blame next, the only party that is faultless is KETUANAN UMNO.
When I see those red T shirts, immediately my instinct tell me these guys want free T shirt and paid meals and money for sure. What a bunch of morons easily manipulated by Anwar who gets his financing from the CROOKS!
one word, Malaysia = fxxked up country with fxxked up goverment. Adios!.
The only job fit for Badawi is street cleaner or municipal toilet attendant. Then he can sleep all he wants.
Analysing the Banana anal job:
Bernama Spins A Yarn
http://www.bobjots.org/2008/07/bernama_spins_a_yarn_1.php
My brothers who live in Kelana Jaya walked to the gathering. They had a good time and no complaints. The bullshitting by the MSM is sickening with so much of garbage spinning. I feel nauseated reading any of the newspapers or hearing news in the TV. They are a sick lot. Contact with them makes you sick. Just like when you are touched by a particular color you are colored in that shade. Colored by these biased myopic news media we too will end up myopic!
So I recommend that we avoid this sickening MSM !
keep up the good work people. At this rate as fast as the malays voted opposition, i’m sure they will think twice about further support if their sovereinty is in a perilous position.
Ah long is correct, NEP should stay and be better handled. The mistake of UMNo is that with so many bright malays around, they choose to allow corrupt dumbasses to be party members. Anybody smart enough to go up the ranks is a threat and dealt with. Presently they are reaping their own fruits. Unfortunately the general malay/bumi is to pay the price for their incompetence. We stand to lose our rights for the doings of a group of corrupt monyets. What the hell do they care? they are flushed with their tons of money, pangkat and harta.
Like i said before, any true change will not occur if malay sovereigty isnt recognized and handled properly. All the taliban ideas by pas, and chinese meritocracy malaysia by DAp and fuel/liwat protest by anwar is going no where. Dap look to the left ,pas to the right, anwar hantambola in the middle. What the hells goin on here? all only have a common enemy, but whats their common goal/manifesto? Kalau tak sepakat, as we northerners say, tak lama semua Pakat Runtuh la..
Who is malaysias Robispiere? and who will storm the bastille?
BARISAN NASIONAL – NO NEED TO SNUB , YOUR FAILURE IN THE RECENT ELECTIONS IS AMUSING………….. MIC LOST BADLY, MCA TOO, NOT TO MENTION GERAKAN AND PPP. WHY ARE YOU STILL KEEPING THESE BROKEN TOOLS?
On the 5th July 2008 Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar had visited Kamunting Detention camp where amongst others the 5 HINDRAF leaders are held.
He had requested to meet all 5 but Mr.P.Uthayakumar had refused to meet the said Minister and this was commented upon by the Minister.
Mr.Uthayakumar had asked members of family who visited him after that to inform the general public that he had deliberately refused to meet the Home Minister for the following reasons:
a) The intentions of the Minister was clear ie that the Minister had expected the detainees to plead their predicament and their jail conditions and beg for an early release.
b) He believes in the HINDRAF struggle and has no regrets for the incarceration he faces.
c) The Minister had on previous occasions lied and mislead the Malaysian public that HINDRAF was a threat to National Security.
d) He maintains that his is a just struggle for the freedom of the Malaysian Indians from permanent colonization of the neo colonialist UMNO Government which has suppressed, oppressed and marginalized the Malaysian Indian Community for the last 51 years.
Mr.Uthayakumar urges all HINDRAF supporters to remain focussed in the struggle and feels proud to be able to “serve the Malaysian Indians” by taking their plight to prison. He feels the draconian ISA law that is used against him and his incarceration should be used to expose the atrocities, marginalization and oppression of the Malaysian Government against the Malaysian Indians.
This was his parting words to his family members:
“VAALGA HINDRAF VAALGA NAMATHU PORATUM”
allah knows the suffering
Subject: Fwd: FW: Raja Petra says, ‘ Justice My Ass
Here’s ANOTHER Reason NON-Malays Should NOT Vote UMNO in Any Future General Elections and Bye-Elections
Read here from M’sians Unplugged
Average Non-Malay Malaysians and NON-Malay Bumiputras haveLITTLE future for their children and their grandchildren IF they still vote Barisan Nasional which allows UMNO to remain in Government – it was before, it is today, and it will be tomorrow
Excerpts from article by Raja Petra Kamarudin ‘Last month, Umno Johor said that the greatest mistake they made was in giving the non-Malay immigrants citizenship in August 1957. Now that they have been given citizenship they show their ingratitude by voting for the opposition. Yes, non-Malays, even those born in Malaysia, are immigrants. And, being immigrants, they must vote Barisan Nasional. And if they do not vote for Barisan Nasional then they are ungrateful
Yes, voting is your right. This is your right according to the Federal Constitution of Malaysia.
Malays can vote for whomsoever they would like to vote for because the Constitution allows them to do so. Malays, therefore, can vote for the opposition. But, if you are non-Malay, then you must vote for Barisan Nasional because you are an immigrant. If you vote for the opposition then you are a traitor, you are ungrateful, and it was a great mistake giving you citizenship in 1957 Tun Dr Mahathir’s father was born in INDIA. But Tun Dr Mahathir can vote opposition. He can even oppose Umno like he is doing so now. In fact, he can even become the Prime Minister. He is not an ungrateful immigrant who should be sent back to India.
Tian Chua, however, can’t oppose Umno. Tian Chua, whose family settled in Malaya long before the Portuguese came in 1511, is an immigrant. And if he is not happy and if he opposes Umno then he should go back to China. And Umno Johor regrets giving Tian Chua citizenship in 1957 but does not regret giving Tun Dr Mahathir citizenship Why? Because Tun Dr Mahathir is Muslim while Tian Chua is not.
But if Tian Chua circumcises and takes on the Muslim name of Musa Bin Susah and marries a Malay woman, then he need not go back to China and Umno does not regret giving him citizenship in 1957 The Malays have a very warped view of justice. Malays practice two standards of justice. There is one standard for the Malays and another for the non-Malays. And 90% of the tax is paid by the NON-Malays and 10% by the Malays, says Tun Dr Mahathir.
But 10% of the scholarships must go to the NON-Malays and 90% to the Malays. And when they propose to change this to 40% for the non-Malays and 60% for the Malays, the Malays raise a hue and cry. And they call this justice. And they say Islam is about justice.’
JUSTICE MY ASS, MAN !!!!!
be proud my fellow bloggers and defenders of freedom
the reason we are being labelled as extremist, trouble makers and rumour starting creatures is because we have them worried.
we have become a force that worries the circles of power that believe nothing can shake their world.
truth will always prevail!!
just remember we are the good guys and always uphold good moral judgement.
If that is the case, how on earth then that minister can claim that we, the blog surfers, are believing all the things we read in the blogs… We are just dying to have more accurate, accountable and responsible news that is easily accessible from our home, office or on the run and mostly importantly up-to-date and a place where we can exchange our thoughts with other surfers and bloggers.
Mind if we ask again, did that hint that we as a good citizen of Malaysia, should only read the MSM newspapers for the “correct, correct and correct” stories. Isn’t the MSM merely being a propaganda tool by BN-UMNO to suppress and oppress our freedom of speech and to make smallest matter to become national big issue, in most of the cases? This was proven time and time again…
So, think twice again before accusing that the blogs are doing harmful activities to the country… prove to us…and be accountable for what you have said too, otherwise how to expect us, the surfers to trust what BN government had said and done???
It’s a shame to see that BN is still in the mode of denial and self-destruction… My only last pledge to BN-UMNO government, is go with your own self desctruction but please do not try to lead the whole nation to that destruction too… I love my country and cherish my homeland here… and we can be better living without you, BN-UMNO.
protest! Protest! and more protest!!! on the street or silently wait for the next general election…. u all will see…. their day is numbered anyway.
WIDE AWAKE
o happiness is coming,
right on my TV screen
my needs are televised,
just over channel three
wide awake, wide awake
turn off the lies
wide awake, wide awake
don’t ask me why
the “truth” that you see
are the lies that they feed
and it’s not the food that you’re gonna need
don’t tell me my life’s alright (wide awake)
free speech for one and all,
wrote all the media print
your dreams’ll be realised,
just close your minds and heed
wide awake, wide awake
turn off the lies
wide awake, wide awake
wipe out that smile
the “truth” that you read
are the lies that they feed
and it’s all the goods that they’re gonna give
don’t tell me my future’s all bright
as you keep saying your wrongs are right
don’t tell me my life’s alright
as you keep binding your ropes so tight
© 1996 – Carburetor Dung
MIR MURTAZA’S COMMENTS ABOVE:
I refer to Mir Murtaza’s comments above. There is a significant TRUTH in the statement / comment made.
When moral judgements are thrown out of the window, society would have sunk to its lowest ebs.
What seems to be the main contention of the powers that be is that they find the soundness of moral judgement that emerges from the bloggers’ mind far too threatening.
Unable to counter with philosophical depth, they obviously will seek out a shortcut to snipp blogging attempts.
But history is punctuated with far too much evidence since the time of Socrates that TRUTH will prevail.
Happy blogging.
J. D. Lovrenciear
Bola Hangus – stop tallking rubbish and clean your rubbish brain. Ok?
So what about UK lands in the Peninsula? What was that called Tanah UK?
And what about the 4 northern states that belonged to Thailand, that the Sultan groveled to the UK to take back? Tanah Thai?
And previous to that all the lands owned by Portugal and Holland? Tanah Portugal and Holland?
And how about the fiefdom of Raja Brooke in Borneo? Tanah Brooke?
Each state may have had its own Sultan and government but that does not = Malaysia.
If Malaysia was your own land to control then how come we had to have independence? I suppose Umno teach you that you have to declare independence from yourself?
Stupidest thing I ever heard.
You should go study Malaysia history, real Malaysia history not that doctored Umno garbage.
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