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If you are, then today – International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination – is a day to ‘eliminate’ people like you.  IDERD became official in 1966, after that fateful day in 1960, where police opened fire and killed 69 people at a peaceful demonstration against apartheid “pass laws” in Sharpeville, South Africa. 

If you are a Christian, then today “Good Friday” is for you:

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My people, What have I done to you? How have I offended you? Answer me!
I led you out of Egypt; but you led your Savior to the Cross.
For forty years I led you safely through the desert,
I fed you with manna from heaven,
and brought you to the land of plenty; But you led your Savior to the Cross.
O, My people! What have I done to you that you should testify against me?

(Jesus, in one of his reproaches)

103 responses »

  1. Lim says:

    If I’m not wrong Jesus was crusified to the cross is partly because of racist problem at his time.
    Roman is empowering Israel at that moment. The Jewish are also being marginaralise. Most of them are living in poor as fishermen and force to pay tax to support the Romans’ Government.
    Jesus spell out the difficulties of the Jewish.
    Sadly out of someone’s personal greed from his own tribe and blind influence from the crowd’s strong request, Jesus has been betrayed and victimized to be crucified on the cross. The Roman’s has made guileless judgement on Jesus.

  2. Lim says:

    Let us not be racist to each other as Malaysian. No emotion hurt, no blood shed.

    MCA Chiew Mey Fun that lost to DAPTony Pua, has appeard in China Press late news for tomorrow 21th March. She evaluate that MCA is lack of inteligence to respond, mainly stimulate voters emotion to buy their coffee (Election slogan). Chiew is proposing to MCA to send some of their members to Taiwan and learn up some fast track and dirty tricks to be used by next general election in winning back votes.
    They are just dirty and crabs that just wanna win election for the benefit of themselve.
    In the nut shell touching in racist issue, after our big brother LLSik took over to be head of MCA, have they bring chinese to any progress??? We are also tax payer contributing to the country, is that to much for us just to ask for more chinese school to cater for the demand and needs that some times we have to share some with malay or indian children. Why are we so concern on Damansara Pai Xiou to be reopen? Aren’t we don’t understand that it is not a suitable location? The fact it is not enough chinese school. We chinese infact don’t ask for more. Just for our children schooling, they have suffered us so much.
    Back to Chiew, what I wanna to exprssed is that MCA just can’t blindly ask and twist votes and support. At first they must understand as a political party, what is their purpose of existence, their stand in the society, what do they battle for and what have they achieved.
    I think they have none.

  3. Timmycumstimely says:

    Happy Good Friday to you Susan. May God, through the Saviour, Lord Jesus Christ bless you in your endeavour (if any) Hehe. any future undertakings.

    I know 1 day, bloggers like you will make it “big time”. Maybe re-join “Malaysiakini”, maybe come back to the non-apartheid Penang (all race is “safer” under the guardian of Lim Jr.).

    Sorry, I just know u via cyberspace but I presumed that you are a Christian. So am I.

    May God also liberate Myanmar from the Juntas, the Tibetans from the Chinese Government, and Malaysian from the BN. Malaysians needed people like you and other eminent figures for betterment.

    “Everyone is equal in the eye of God”-unquote.

    Cheers and God Bless.

  4. ELGS says:

    I think I am….

    Why?
    I would really like to know….

    Is it the colour?
    I don’t know….

    Is it up-bringing?
    I don’t remember my mom teaching me that…

    Is it school-influence?
    I remember in primary school… during PE, w ould run out of the classroom shouting “China lawan Melayu” (for soccer)

    Is it the living environment?
    I don’t see posters in my 39 years of life

    Is it the government?
    ……………………… (NEP?)
    ……………………… (30% quota)
    ……………………… (University quotas)
    ……………………… (Grade 1 for us to reach Form 6, sitting next to a Grade 3 [M])
    ……………………… (paying 30% more to buy houses)
    ……………………… NEED I SAY MORE????

    Is it not clear??? What has made us a racist???!!!

  5. asset man says:

    If all those who have plundered wealth from this Bolehland and if they have conscience, they should surrender all their ill-gotten wealth and all the assets which they hide anywhere on this earth to the people and volunteered forwards so that they can be nailed on the cross.

    This is the only way if they were to reborn again.

  6. RAJ RAMAN says:

    all human are bound to be racist because human divided us by race group.
    i trying for years not to be involve in any group of race and religion.how best i try,the race and religion barrier co exist in our blood.be honest to ourself.our bringing up by our parents is good but our bring up in real world dominated by krismudin make us try to be protective our own race.due to that without we realise when another person is racist,we with out realising become part of them.thats why we need bangsa malaysia.a nation rule and divide by race base party will be forever racist.they can tell the world ,they are not racist.first omit out all one sided advantage give to certain race.second,dont keep on over protectetive about religion.may judge people on their gooddeeds.leave politic and religion out of this world.religion is to powerfull tools to exploit.when exploited in wrong way,its can be a waiting time bom.thanks sloone.raj raman.race.malaysian.religion.my wish my problem.dreaming to be malaysian putera

  7. wits0 says:

    It’s one thing to admit to the human pull towards racist feelings(indicating a need to resist that) and another to UNABASHEDLY worship racism openly by putting it on the pedestal like UMNO and it’s grovelling lapdog component parties like there’s no tomorrow.

  8. Chong says:

    Watch this video. Yet another way the US is decades ahead of us in dealing with the issue of racism.

    When will a Chinese, Indian or other minority be accepted by the Sultan/Agong and get to be the PM of Malaysia? It’s still decades away. In the US this November, they may have their first black President.

  9. bamboo river says:

    RACIST…is the words widely used/misused by humans since the existence of coloured people.
    Why must GOD create humans with different skin colours?
    Why not all human exist in just ONE colour?
    We people of different colors have only shared ONE colour, that is blood……RED.
    Must we kill each other to show that we have the same blood color?

    Today is Good Friday. I hope all Christians will reflect the sacrifices Lord Jesus had done to save us from our sins.
    May this day be the day we all forgives and do our best to share our love with all Malaysian regardless of races or religions.

    Have a nice weekend everyone and Happy Easter to all. May God Bless MALAYSIA.

  10. Tickler says:

    “It’s one thing to admit to the human pull towards racist feelings(indicating a need to resist that) and another to UNABASHEDLY worship racism openly by putting it on the pedestal like UMNO and it’s groveling lapdog component parties like there’s no tomorrow” Wits0

    Someone has rightly committed about you:

    “He isn’t stupid in an innocent sense but rather twisted with an arrogant proclivity to ego trip by brow beating his peers and seeking to insinuate himself into a discussion as an authority when his feet isn’t on the ground. He gets his way with the mods because the mods aren’t the brightest around here”.

  11. Tickler says:

    corr “commented”

  12. Are peoples of the world really racists
    By chance, choice, brainwashing, accident
    Or due to negative influences of fascists
    As though this thing happens by coincident?

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 210308
    http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
    http://msi.Rocky101.com
    Fri. 21st March 2008.

  13. kittykat46 says:

    To a certain extent, race/tribal/clan conciousness is wired into the human brain.
    Even a toddler who hasn’t been taught any prejudices instinctively knows to be careful about people outside his familiar family circle.
    The key necessity for a multi-racial country is for the educational and socialisation process to help everyone see beyond racial characteristics and share common values. Ah, yes, non-race-based government policies.

    The Barisan government has failed miserably on this.

  14. missing tunku says:

    I am not racist but Ku Li, Dr.M, monarch and Mat Keris are racist.

    Pak Lah isn’t racist too because with him just holding the job for 4 years he had almost make racist party like MIC, Gerekan and MCA lost their life support. Another 4 years we will be on our way to be a Republic. Do you agree that Dayaks and Kandazans do not need racist monarch?

  15. caravanserai says:

    Racism with others
    Racism amongst ourselves
    It is one way or another
    It bounds in our minds

    Though we decry racism
    Do we practice it?
    When your siblings marry other races
    The first reaction you jump the gun
    “What?!
    You are marrying Ahmad or Samy
    Why not Ah Long?”

    Only the innocents in young ages
    So free of pollution of adults thinking
    When they grow up, treatments change the view
    Somehow a little of racism brooms under the carpet
    Silently brooding thinking about it
    “When I am the boss
    Then you never know”

    When in primary schools
    The children mix so freely
    Chirping and sharing happily
    Then when their minds open up
    What changes their perception?

    It is the society we lived in
    Branding every day about racial policy
    “This is my rights
    I can’t share with you”

    It will be a long way
    When our politicians understand the Constitution
    There are no special rights for the Malays
    It is only about safeguard the King has to exercise
    But the politicians jumping high and low
    Shouting about special rights and Malay supremacy!
    If only these politicians understand the Constitution
    We are treated equally in law and spirit under
    Our Federal Constitution

    We should march as one race
    Malaysians to the fore!

  16. lelaforpeace says:

    Hi Lim,
    If you hate racist so much, whats wrong is it to share school with Malays and Indians children? ( such as sekolah Wawasan). Is it wrong to put all those children together in same school environment in order to develop unity among them. By the way , in other country such as US, chilren from all walks of life grow up in the same school setting and every body is paying tax including me. Have a nice day

  17. Ahila says:

    Ask any guy in the street…he will say that he wants to live a harmoniuos life in Malaysia.That is the utmost desire of every Malaysian. Then what about the race factor? I can only remember how BN gov kept reminding us of our Race ! In fact the ruling party is racist! They say it is a coalition but divided into MCA,MIC and UMNO for each ‘race’.They are the REAL racist in Malaysia. Not me, you ,caravanserai,kittykat etc. etc.. Read waht ELGS says again and again……you’ll know who is trying to ‘force’ racism upon us. But ‘well said’ caravan serai ‘We should march as one race’ !
    Perhaps with DAP/PKR we may ! God Bless Malaysia !

  18. SB says:

    first step for Bolehland to be free from racism: eliminate official forms that require ethnicity to be stated. WE ARE ALL MALAYSIAN-lah! Bangsa apa? Bangsa MALAYSIA-lah…And today’s Good Friday message is that Jesus shed His precious blood for ALL; not any specific individuals with certain color of skin.
    Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
    Yoh 3:16 Kerana begitu besar kasih Allah akan dunia ini, sehingga Ia telah mengaruniakan Anak-Nya yang tunggal, supaya setiap orang yang percaya kepada-Nya tidak binasa, melainkan beroleh hidup yang kekal.

  19. mak jun yeen says:

    The fact that some of us complain of how “Chinese” and “Indians” are being treated show that even amongst the so called “victims” they are thiniking about race and racial identity. Racism and racist cannot be eliminated otherwise there wont be any more humans left.

    By expecting MCA to fight for “Chinese” rights and then frusttrated with their results means we are thinking in racist terms. To expect DAP to do the same is thinking in racist terms.

    To expect MIC to speak up for the Indians is to think in racist terms.

    So first we must exorcise our emotional attachment to the fictional “racial” label attached to us as our identity and live our lives as human being 1st and by making race irrelevant to your self irrespective of what the general society expect or does to you then you will find that you are least likely to succumb to frustration, anger, hatred of how you are being treated because others have attached labels on you.

  20. College Lecturer says:

    Lim, as a fellow Chinese I am not in favour of having more Chinese schools. What we need in Malaysia is more integration, not separation. I spent 4 years under the Chinese education system and although my maths and science may be good, so what? I found it very stiffling in there. Very narrow-minded people are in these schools enforcing very Sino-centric views. The worst in Chinese behaviour are exhibited making me ashamed to be Chinese. Even in China people are not like that! My father is also from Chinese school but he realised that the values the Chinese schools were teaching was not good for me in the long run and he pulled me out of that system. My late grandparents were immigrant Chinese school teachers and they said that system worked for immigrants but now we are all Malaysians and we should be in a Malaysian school. Teach Chinese as a subject for all, but don’t have a separate Chinese school.

  21. wits0 says:

    Well, just bring back the English medium schools system and you can find ALL the ethnic groups really rushing for it.

  22. freewave says:

    I went to chinese primary school because my mum said chinese should know a little about mandarin. Nonetheless my neighbour is malay and we played together in a compound nearby. Raya and Chinese New Year our family used to invite each other. We liked each other’s company.

    My parents told me we have to work harder because we don’t get the privileges. I never did understand what they meant. I get on with my life and my best friend in secondary school is a nice malay boy. We were pretty good friends until his father sent him away to another school, telling him he should not mix too much with chinese. He said he never understood it either, I’ve lost contact with him.

    I didn’t know the ethnic race of a person is really a big deal until I try to apply for the local universities. I ended up getting my master’s degree in UK. I took form 6. During my time, a chinese must get 72 points and above in order to study an Electrical Engineering course in a local university while for malay, 50 points can get in already. They had really strict quotas that time.

    That was the first time in my life I experienced one of our government’s policies. A policy that can really make people from certain races lag behind. A policy that can really make you sell off your cars or house in order to further study overseas. A policy that can make a group of citizens’ life easier and harder for the others. Some people have identified one group as 1st-class and the other 2nd-class.

    The more I react with the society, the more I realise “race” matters, specifically ANYTHING that was endorsed by the government. Well, am I a racist? Hard to say, it depeds on what racism means, but I have to tell my siblings to work harder because our race doesn’t get the privileges, so am I a racist? may be.

  23. ivy Ng says:

    It is the ruling party UMNO in particular that is promoting racism. When Chinese & Indian children who scored good results are not given a place in the university what do you expect them to do. These children will leave the country for another and would benefit the country they migrate to. Just look around our neighbouring country Singapore, bright Malaysians are CEOs of firms and even sitting in high government jobs. Even Lee KY had warned that the Chinese & the Indians are being marginalised in Malaysia. Malaysia should practice meritocrocy. We are born & bred Malaysians.

  24. Roy Selvan says:

    Dear Susan,
    Happy Easter. Let me tell u, there is no racist in Heaven. All of them are in Hell.Because, GOD isnt a racist.We are the one who separate our selves according to Colour and Creed. How can a racist funtion in heaven? Someone whos is a racist woul not know even theres another race blood running in him,maybe from his past anchestry or mere blood transfusion during an Emergency. Well, I pray for all the racist for a change mind and a new beginning. Bless you in this HOLY WEEK.

  25. wits0 says:

    Ask yourselves why the medium of instruction has always been in English all this while for the Malay College in Kuala Kangsar?

  26. freewave says:

    I do not agree with abolishing chinese schools. The disorientation of races in malaysia has nothing to do with one attending chinese schools. I had never had racial oriented views on the malays until I apply for local universities.

    For goodness sake, the chinese teachers never teaches us to hate the malays, but those unfair policies who makes the malay think the chinese will rob away their economical wealth and the chinese think the malays will take away the their education opportunities does.

    Abolishing chinese schools will create more discomfort among the races in malaysia, specifically chinese. It will be perceived as a move by the malay dominated government, inducing more hatred from the chinese community towards the malay community. The government must be careful of implementing certain race sensitive implementation, you should’ve known the outcome will not be good.

  27. grandpahelp says:

    Let’s make it year round.

    http://www.the4amrewrite.wordpress.com

  28. freewave says:

    Talking about God, it is an interesting topic. Sorry Susan, I don’t mean to hijack your topic, but I think it is interesting to discuss because we have multiple religions in this country.

    How many Gods are there? The christian’s God accept only christians to their kingdom of heaven while the muslim’s God accept only muslims to their kingdom of heaven. Having said that, isn’t that racism?

  29. David O S Koh says:

    Propagating more Chinese schools may lead to more separation. If we want to eliminate racism, then what is the issue of a Malaysian school for all races? Mandarin can be taken as a subject. Just imagine the scenario if all the different races in the country demanding for more schools of their own…malay schools, indian schools, sikh schools…? Where will it end?

    However, the issue here is not the schools, but the mindset of people, the perception. We can’t change what has been created but we can change our mindsets and perceptions, about people, about the world we live in.

    The greatest power ever given to mankind is the power of CHOICE. What we are and where we are now are the sum total of the choices we made in the past. For a progressive Malaysia, we can’t turn back to make a brand new start, but we can start now and make a brand new ending.

  30. wits0 says:

    Please, freewave, religion is not a race.😀 Let’s not propagate a confusion.

  31. Teenvoice93 says:

    If we want to change to a once Malaysian, we have to first educate our ruling party particularly UMNO, then we have to educate all the parents from all the races. strike off Bumiputra and non Bumiputra, we all born in Malaysia and we are all Bumiputra. We all should have privileges. We should exercise like before Merdeka, all races unite and happy together.

  32. hutchrun says:

    `Propagating more Chinese schools may lead to more separation.`

    There are about 60,000 malays in Chinese vernacular schools. Even Malay teachers are sending their children to chinese schools. Reason: The national type are `tak guna`.
    There is more racism in the govt run schools where teachers and pupils of a particular race look down on the other races.

  33. Roy Selvan says:

    You Guys are running out of the Topic………Are you a racist? Susan ,perhaps you should open up another Topic. What type of Goverment aided schools should there be in Malaysia.Equal Quota for all Race in Teachers Training College and Equal Segregation of Teachers -All Race-Teachers to this Schools! One thing for sure- Keris Muddin is the wrong person for the Education Minister Post.

  34. freewave says:

    “what is the issue of a Malaysian school for all races”

    I think this subject had been discussed long time ago. I think the chinese community has no problem with the government’s idea of schools for all malaysian, until they themselves screwed it up, and The United Chinese School Committees Association of Malaysia (Dong Jiao Zong) pulled out last minute.

    Having a mandarin as a subject is not a problem. However, there are much much more restriction by the government in these schools for all malaysian, so called the wawasan schools. It is made know that these schools do not allow the celebration of certain chinese festivals. I think this is currently an issue in some of the local universities as well. Some universities does not allow Chinese Language Society, I’m not sure about sekolah wawasan, but the government did not show the people they are trustable.

    If the schools is for all malaysians, they should not kill one’s culture.

  35. hutchrun says:

    And. now in a lighter vein:

    English speakers in Beijing have been invited to visit “Racist Park” – more accurately translated as the Park of Ethnic Minorities – and warned to take care on wet roads as “the slippery are very crafty”.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/19/wchinglish119.xml

  36. freewave says:

    Sorry, thanks for correcting, wits0.

  37. kai says:

    Are you racist?

    Are you kidding me? We have Sultan insisting on having MB as Malay Muslim. We have government schools that only Malay Muslim can attend. We have government provide grants to Malay students to further their studies overseas. We have government jobs reserved mainly for Malays. We have jobs advertised by private firms that only Malays can apply. Do I need to go further?

    Apart from that…..Nah…..we are not racist! None of us are!

    Australia

  38. Roy Selvan says:

    What I meant was the TOPIC is ‘Are you a Racist? You surely are 1/2 past 3 character. Some of you guys are no better either…… Check out the scene in Corporate World run by the Chinese….. Its just the same. Grow-up, pls, this is how the racist speak…

  39. Roy Selvan says:

    To Kai- Fun
    Then you run away to Australia and other nations ,being a critic on Malaysians who stay back and fight for their rights.BOOO BOOOO

  40. d_yanz says:

    I am so agree with lelaforpeace, SB, mak jun yeen & college lecturer.
    To unite as malaysian, we must regard all of us as human being first..
    colors are just the skin, to unite we do not need anymore separating education/school.. what we need is children is to communicate with each other without prejudice,
    we are not taught 2 b racist, but the environment is
    to see that people is different from each other is uniquely human
    do not put more barrier that it already have
    what I want and I believe many people out there want is that we are being treated fairly, no matter who we are, what race we are..

  41. College Lecturer says:

    Freewave, I am sorry you feel bitter but did you ever study in a local university before? I was in UM and when I got there I got a shock. I was threatened by the Chinese students because I socialised a lot with Malays. And why not? I went to a top Malay school after leaving Chinese school and I was not discriminated against there even though I was the only Chinese in my year. The UM Chinese students from the Chinese education stream were on the whole a bunch of narrow minded xenophobic bigots who ganged together and tried to force their views about Chineseness on all freshies. When I spoke Chinese dialect, I was criticised. They thought I was less than Chinese for choosing not to speak Mandarin to every Chines face I see on campus! I could see the hand of the idiotic MCA youth everywhere. When I took part in a concert organised by Malay students, the Chinese student called me traitor! I made many good friends in UM among the Malays and East Malaysians. The Chinese-eudcated students pig-headed attitude and behaviour put me off completely.

  42. kai says:

    Hi Roy Selvan

    Thank you for you kind concern. Am I right to say that your latest posting was related to my posting? Oh no, when I say ‘are you racist’, I meant the heading of this forum and not related to your comment. I would have mentioned your name if I did!

    Well, since you specifically mentioned my name, well what makes you think that I ran away from Malaysia? Are you assuming that I am no longer a Malaysian too? Wow, you are good!! Did you know that I wrote to the Malaysian embassy almost 20 years ago for a form so that I can registered to vote while living overseas. Gust what? I am still waiting for that form to arrive. I guess you are right, after all you are an expert in all political issues in Malaysia as well as those who ‘ran’ away from home too, including those in Singapore, NZ, US and so on….

    I kowtow to you too!

    Australia

  43. freewave says:

    College Lecturer, I never had a chance because of the discriminating policies. I applied to the UM several times, even after I obtained a diploma from Tunku Abdul Rahman college, the JPA replied diploma from TAR college is not recognised. Don’t worry about me because now after some hard work, I’m doing very well in the private sector. What I’m fighting for now is for the future of my children.

    I equally felt sorry for your experience, but name calling the chinese community doesn’t make other people agree with you more, instead they will run away from you. The more name calling, the more people will get offended. You get what I mean?

    I am all for schools for malaysian, if the government does not discriminate the chinese.

  44. Malaysian says:

    Are you a racist?
    Good question. Much as I wish not, I must not be a hypocrite and admit reluctantly, yes I am. I recall when much younger, I was an idealist, never a racist. But now I’m in my 40s … I have turned a bit racist. Perhaps I can blame it on … life in Malaysia. For those in my parents generation, when they talk, it goes something like this “This Chinese man ah, that Malay guy, you know Indian lah …” I always admonish them when I hear but what to do, they are brought up in a very racially sensitive environment. When I speak sometimes I hear myself echoing the same words … but I try to very careful not to utter such words in front of my children. Hopefully, my children will not be racists.

  45. Antares says:

    Lim Says:
    March 21, 2008 at 12:34 am

    “If I’m not wrong Jesus was crusified (sic) to the cross is partly because of racist problem at his time.”

    There are many versions of what happened in Palestine 2000 years ago, Lim. The version you quote is the orthodox or official version endorsed by the Church of Rome (doesn’t that tell you something about the origins of so-called Christianity. the fact that its seat of power happens to be Rome and not Jerusalem?) There’s no space (and I haven’t the time right now) to elaborate on the alternative versions – but some say there were at least 3 incarnations of the Christos, each fulfilling a different
    agenda. There are many books written that say Yeshua (Jesus) did not undergo the crucifixion – that somebody else took his place while he took refuge on Mount Carmel in Greece. And the substitute did not die on the cross, he merely became unconscious and his body removed from the cross, later to be revived. And there others who believe that Yeshua subsequently traveled to Kashmir where you can find
    his grave. Yet another version has it that Yeshua – or one of his brothers – ended up on an island in Japan where some of the inhabitants today still have traces of red hair and semitic noses. In short, after 2000 years, that whole drama remains shrouded in mystery and I doubt anybody can come up with a definitive version since hardly any documentary evidence remains. In effect, the long-cherished rituals of Christianity are a politically expedient construct, camouflaged by layers of artificially induced sentiment.

  46. College Lecturer says:

    Freewave, thanks. The main culprit is the MCA Youth members in UM who instigate this ‘us’ (ie. Chinese) and ‘them’ (other races) attitude and many Chinese students (who felt strange seeing more Malays than they have ever seen in their lives until UM) rallied around the MCA buggers because they really know how to talk and manipulate them. Only the Penang students were immune as they all pro-DAP! I think if the MCA had stayed out of UM and other universities, the polarisation won’t be so intense. I always believe it was a case of needing 2 hands to clap. I used strong language because before I went to local university I was proud of being a Chinese. My UM experience made me hate Chinese culture and education. I am sorry if I have offended anyone reading this.

  47. Roy Selvan says:

    Kai, Sorry if I misqouted you….. (Nah was abit offensive)
    ….There alot of Malays who are also liberal thinking.I admit there are issues ,alot of issues in our Country which needs to be looked upon. Hope we can change with time. Hope ,is all we got right now…Like Malaysian said…Hopefully our Children will not be Racist .Happy Easter.

  48. saynganchai says:

    (There are about 60,000 malays in Chinese vernacular schools. Even Malay teachers are sending their children to chinese schools. Reason: The national type are `tak guna`.
    There is more racism in the govt run schools where teachers and pupils of a particular race look down on the other races.)

    What are the reasons to say that the national type school ‘tak guna’? Is it really true that malay teachers are sending their children to chinese schools because the national type are ‘tak guna’?
    What are the real reasons malay teachers are sending their children to chinese schools? What are the composition of malay teachers that sent their children to chinese schools? Does it mean that just because the chinese schools are accepting the children of other races they are less racist? Isn’t it racist to keep championing for chinese (as in CHINESE)schools?

    I think it depends on the person? The school is not racist, it’s a particular person or teacher that choose to be racist or look down on other race or people. If all the school teachers choose to be fair and impartial, then things will change.Racism is everywhere. In football leagues, in business, in companies, in every society. It’s a matter of choice whether we want to be racist or not.

    Everyone is interested in changing others but no one is interested in changing themselves. Change starts with us.

  49. kai says:

    Hi Roy Selvan

    You don’t have to apologies. Malaysia gained independence for more than 50 years ago, and unfortunately till today we still have this kind of problem. This kind of issue, like ‘you Chinese or Malay or Indian’ will never go away for a long long time. Unfortunately I don’t have an answer for this. And even if we all changed our names to Rudy Hartono may not be good enough, just look at Indonesia.

    In case you wonder why we left Malaysia, it was more of the climate. My wife and I just can’t stand the heat and humidity, especially after living in UK and Canada for more than 7 years.

    Even though I am here, my heart in politic is still with Malaysia. I can’t say that I have good records when come to voting. I have only voted once and that was in 1986 when DAP slogan was ‘Enough is enough, no more 2/3 majority’. Unfortunately, DAP only managed to gain 20 plus seats at the expense of mainly MCA. The good thing is that I voted in Seputeh, against the MCA guy who happened to be a Director of a Company I worked for…..isn’t that sweet!!!

    Australia

  50. Lim says:

    Hi lelaforpeace Says: March 21, 2008 at 9:50 am” please don’t get me wrong on this. What I meant on malay or indian children too are sharing a piece of the chinese school is, I am trying to express thatthere are not enough chinese school around to cater for demand.
    In my schooling time, there are no such thing as Sekolah Wawasan. I am not so sure how they are carry out. 1 thing you have to understand is that chinese is not an easy language especially with their character. By only having just 1 subject every day I believe is not enough to groom the child to be fundamentaly strong in this language. Somehow or rather, most of our children will be studiying in Malay & language while they are in the secondary. I don’t mean to be racist, but to me chinese is a language to beautiful for me to be lack off.
    There are some time no way to translate a chinese written source perfectly with an other language. Just like sanskrit. Cauze in chinese language, even with the character itself it has it’d devine meaning. English are more definative, are good for modern day’s science. Chinese are more towards literature in nature.

  51. kai says:

    Hi Malaysian,

    LOL! I know actually what you meant. Only the Chinese are humans. All other races are ‘devils’ including those Europeans (red hair devils in Cantonese).

    When I was in Malaysia I always believe that the Malays will always stick together as one when come to issues with non Malays. This is how they managed to rule the country since 1957. I suppose this GE12 may have proven me wrong. Perhaps Roy Selvan is right when he says there are many Malay liberal thinking people out there.

    BTW, in case you wonder if I am a racist. The answer is yes. I did a test some years ago (published by a local newspaper). I failed the test. One of the questions asked was that if you (a white man) catch a Taxi at the airport (in Australia) and the driver behind the wheel is an Indian from overseas. You then tell the driver your destination. The driver look back and re confirm the location with you. You then asked the driver if he knows where the place is. According to the test, that is racist as you would assume that he may not know where the place is just because he is an Indian from overseas.

    Australia

  52. Lim says:

    Form my personal point of view, malay, chinese or indian school does not symbolize racist.No doubt it is a certain language use by certain ethnic group to communicate. Culture has been built in in the language by the ethnic throughout centuries. It is one way another an unavoidable the development of the nation.
    Let us look at this language in the other perspective, religion too are from different race from different geographical location. Unfortunately non of them orriginated in M’sia. And it is no doubt religion influence and shape the way how we think. Aren’t we still M’sian bro & sis, though some of our religion is not the same from another.
    Not only religions are from different ethnic and different location, but those religious scroll too are translate from one language to another, to be preach from one part of the world to another part of the world.
    If we are to pin point that language is one of the factor of racist problem in M’sia, i think we are just to shallow in intelectual development.

  53. d_yanz says:

    ppl..
    seems like i smell racist…
    I m hoping i’m not
    understood the situation where the chinese and indians feel treated unfairly,
    but isn’t it time for us to forget all this racist issue and try to resolve it..
    isnt this is what is all about?
    why we want to change the govt? so everyone will get treated fairly…

  54. hutchrun says:

    And what will Tengku Razaleigh do? He will set things in order and then call a snap election. More than half the BN candidates in the snap elections will be new faces. Ku Li will promise real reforms in UMNO and the BN and the country. The PM may be restricted to two terms, the UMNO president may be restricted to two terms, the ketua bahagian will be restricted to two terms etc. The disgruntled Malays and maybe even the Chinese and Indians will rally around Ku Li. It may be a new beginning for the country again. This is a real possibility.
    http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/4758/1/

    WOW! It doesn’t get any more racist than this I hope. OH NO! TANAH MELAYU telah jatuh dalam tangan kaum pendatang (Tanah Melayu has fallen into the hands of the immigrants)!
    http://jedyoong.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/tengku-razaleigh-pm-at-last/#comments

  55. kai says:

    Lim says “1 think you have to understand is that Chinese is not an easy language especially with their character”

    Just on this part, yes, Lim is correct. All my 3 kids attended Chinese Sunday school from pre school to year 12 once a week. They all have to study the same subject at secondary school from Year 7 to 12 too. I can’t say that they are all fluent in Chinese (Mandarin) and I don’t think either of them can past the Standard 6 test in Malaysia either. And when they speak Mandarin, they all speak with a western ascent, like more foreign that Chinese.

  56. missing tunku says:

    Chinese vernacular schools cannot be counted as racist.
    The problem lies with the government unability to run good school. Who would want to put their children in Chinese vernacular school if there are better alternative? Why are the Johorean taking great pain to send their children to schools in Singapore? The poor kids have to wake up a 5am to take the school bus to beat the morning jam at the causeway and reaches home after 8pm every day and do you think the Chinese vernacular schools in JB isn’t good enough? If we have a better alternative we cannot denial our kids.

    Why is Malaysia so far behind Singapore, Korea when in 1963 we are ahead of them? The prolbem is Malay education that make our kids only good enough to compete within our few races but not internationally.

    So if you want to blame who is more racist, BN is the #1 racist.

  57. Lim says:

    Hi kai,

    what I posted up is all bas on fact that I have seen. I am the only few chinese who never go to Chinese school in my early days. My husband told me I’am the only few who manage to learn recognizing chinese character through self learning. And yet not manage to write, just type using computer.
    Look at us who are not chinese educated, how many of us successfully learn this language. Compare to chinese educated student, many of them who are OK with studies mostly manage to finish their undergraduate form local or oversea.

  58. College Lecturer says:

    Kai, if your children speak with a Western accent, they probably sound closer to the Beijing standard. So don’t worry too much about it! It is our Malaysian Chinese schools which teach students so badly that many of them cannot manage an ‘r’ sound (common in Mandarin) and can only come out with ‘l’, which is why Westerners always make fun of us. And they don’t teach correct phrasing as well, making everything sound so choppy. As I said, other than a 2 handfuls of elite Chinese schools, the rest are not as good as people believe.

  59. Roy Selvan says:

    Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.
    (This are words from- Martin Luther King JR).With all the racist statements and remarks from certain partys (ON TV and Street Demonsration)and there is more coming our way,I hope we would presevere the right to fight for the truth via non-violence. Finally, the truth will set us free.

  60. Lim says:

    Hi College Lecture, pls don’t put statement in such if you are not to sure about it. “if your children speak with a Western accent, they probably sound closer to the Beijing standard”. I have some China friend from Beijing where their parent are minister in their country. They do not speak in such as you claim.
    “Chinese schools which teach students so badly that many of them cannot manage an ‘r’ sound (common in Mandarin) and can only come out with ‘l’, which is why Westerners always make fun of us”
    I do agree many of these chinese student are not fluent in
    English. Of course there are other reason other then the teacher are not well trained. Give an example, Japanese, they are one of the race that fail to speak good english. Comment by them, it is due to the huge contraze in their vocal of their mother language with English.
    Why are you so affraid that the western laugh on us asian. How many of them are fluent in Chinese or other asean languages. If majority of them dunno how to speak asia language, is that so supprising that asian do not speak fluent english. They laugh cauze they think they are foremost. If you are so affraid of them laughing on us then I think you will fell inferior of yourself if not knowing thier language well.

    I don’t denied that english is an international language and it is important. If you are a good college lecturer seing this problem with our malaysian children (not only those who attend chinese school) you should perhaps or at least offer tution classes to improve the situation.

  61. kai says:

    Hi Lim,

    You sounded like my wife too. Neither of us went to Chinese school (apart from those few odd years) but my wife managed to pick up more Chinese learning when helping the kids with their home works. Apart from learning Chinese I also made sure all my kids know how to use chopstick. To me this is more of our culture than a race issue.

    I personally do not believe the education systems in Malaysia would have contributed to our racist mentality, if they are any. I believe this is more of our up bringing, influent by our parents which may not be intentionally, what we read in the medias, and more importantly those bias Government policies when it only favour one race and not the whole.

    And as for College Lecturer Says: “It is our Malaysian Chinese schools which teach students so badly that many of them cannot manage an ‘r’ sound (common in Mandarin) and can only come out with ‘l’, which is why Westerners always make fun of us”

    Been there, done it (laughed at by my colleagues), but what can you do. You can only learn from what your teachers can teach you. The only way to avoid this is to have an English speaking person from an English speaking country to be our English teacher.

    Time to go. My wife is watching a DVD – Rush Hour 3….and I miss my DURIANS!!! Fresh not frozen!!

  62. Lim says:

    I love you comment kai.

  63. Lim says:

    Hi Antares, I my self is not a christian, about christianity history, the easiest source that I can get of course is from the bible those church are using.

  64. Lingam says:

    If there is only ONE race, ONE religion and ONE language in the whole universe, do you think there will be peace?

    Nah! As long as there are humans, there is bound to have a few idiots among them that think they have better rights than the rest!

    So, these fellows would first eliminate other religions, then other races, then the weak among themselves, then non-family members, then family members, then when there is no one else left, he would kill himself!

    So much about these idiots!!!

  65. Lim says:

    Hi Lingam, you again.
    It is very true. Were ever there is human there is discremination.
    Therefore create politics.
    Let me tell you one joke.
    Only human needs religion and other species don’t.
    Why? cauze they are ediot for their own

  66. atanck says:

    college lecturer,
    i come from a national school hence, i know wat u mean wif all the chinese hardcore pushing the chineseness across the chinese race in local university. i was from USM and maybe it’s not as serious as in UM, so no such thing as “us” and “them”. but wif the current batch of teachers (sorry…. teachers but the std of teacher under BN flip-flop and other factors are really doubtful), both in national schools and chinese schools make things worse. both are being reduced to Malay and Chinese propaganda spread tool. i blame tis on the education system and the BN-UMNO agenda (remember the changes made in the history text book???)

    however, i feel sad tat the unpleasant experience you had in UM made u dislike the chinese culture but come to think of it, knowing the reason of the circumstances of urs (the MCA guy thingy etc….), i think you should not be deterred. &^%$ those MCA guys then!!! they dun deserve to be a factor to ur change.

    i have no qualms on chinese schools but hope tat the teachers are more qualified, character and academic-wise to build the Bangsa Malaysia.

  67. jimonge says:

    I think, if it was Jesus who said that, then it should be “My Father led you out of Egypt”, instead of “I led you out of Egypt”, coz it’s Moses under the guidance of God not Jesus brought his people for the jalan-jalan to egypt
    🙂
    cheers!
    happy easter

  68. ANg kong says:

    am i racist? yes or no…. my sis may marry a malay guy one day but she refuses to convert, i later found out fr other non-malaysian muslims that converting to islam is not essential and d Quran doesnt stipulate this hypocrisy.
    I blame the gorment for making me resent to the word ‘bumiputra’ but am i racist? racist against the malays or the gorment? or racist against the bumiputra?

  69. tunabdulrazak says:

    Perak Sultan is racist.

  70. tunabdulrazak says:

    Susan Loone is. She did not approve my earlier comment.

  71. asset man says:

    This is a democratic country! If you want to send your children to a Chinese school, it is a can. But if you don’t want to send your children, it’s also a can. But for Chinese parents for sending your children Chinese school is more can than not sending to Chinese school.

    Just imagine, if a English doesn’t know how to write, speak or read English, how is he going to communicate to his/her fraternal race? Ditto to every race on earth!

    Why the Muslims will want to kill another Muslim if that Muslim wants to convert to another religion? So it’s the religion that binds Muslims. For a Christian, that is not a problem! Anybody can join or leave at one’s volition.

    So if you are a Christian, God is your Father, whereas as your real father comes after the Father. Well, if you are a true Christian, it’s not a problem. The bond with your true father is still binding as strong as father and son.

    But if you are a half-past six Christian, you will believe in the Father half-heartedly and will not hesitate to disown your real father.

    So it’s all boiled down to knowledge. If you have an all-round knowledge in how the universe works, there will not be cacophony on this web-blog. So thanks to Susan for real no holds barred forum here. Kudos and ‘tabik’ to Susan.

    So it’s knowledge that governs individual thinking.

    If you are studying in a western institution, and if you are a Chinese but don’t speak Chinese, do you think the Westerners will have any respect on you? Can you call yourself a Chinese? Yes! But a banana Chinese. But the banana Chinese are proud that they are banana Chinese. On the balance sheet/ zero sum game, is it an asset / positive to the Chinese root/ capital?

    A banana Chinese is a liability to the Chinese root. Why does a banana Chinese want to uplift a strong and robust Chinese tree with 6,000 years of fine and sophisticated culture? Yes! It’s culture. Just picture this, the 6,000 year of culture as compared to the 1,600 year old Christianity and 1,400 year old Islam-

    Why does the banana Chinese want to disparage the Chinese educated Chinese? Yes! It’s because of lack of Chinese culture. You can talk like a rocket man and space shuttle woman like George Bush. Yes! Dear banana brothers and sisters, fyi, Bush is a liability to the American people and the people all over the world.

    The price of gasoline was merely US1.05 before Bush took over the white house 8 years ago and now surges to US$6/ gallon. American homes are under foreclosure. So there is no such pride speaking English/ American now? Even the Americans/ Canadians/ Australians/ British are looking up to China as their ‘elite’ trading partner.

    It’s time to erase your racial embedded images in your brain memory and start inputing all those fine pictorial Chinese characters. This fine and easy to under pictorial characters are easy to understand and with ‘pin yin’, it’s like learning English. It’s only whether you are assiduous or interested in studying Chinese?

    Chinese culture binds a family together, respect the elders and always learn from others with better knowledge.

    Unlike a banana Chinese who doesn’t respect his/ her parents and will disown the parents with the slightest grouses.

    I had a wedding dinner with banana Chinese parents who lamented that their children had abandoned them and advised the wedding bridegroom and bride it’s better not to have children. Married, yes! Have fun and sex yes! But for heaven’s sake, no children. Well! What kind of culture is this? Did they try to be sociable and accommodating to other guests? No wonder i left the dinner table before the wedding dinner was over.

    The same applies to business partnership/ friendship. A banana Chinese is quick to abandon his/ her partner when a problem sets in the business or when a friend needs help, it’s kind of no money no talk and I will swim together with you but not sink together with you.

    America speaks English and is the number one country in the world but no more. So stop this psychopath that when you speak American English, you are like the Americans- the number one in the world and world the champion? And you are feeling real proud for a Malaysian Chinese who can speak American Chinese because they are the number one in the world. So compare to other denizens, you are of world class standard? Porahhh!

    To a real Chinese, across the Seven Seas, all are brothers and sisters. So whether you are Chinese, a Banana Chinese, Malay, Indian, Bengali, Sakai, Jakun, American, Zimbabwean….. We are all brothers and sisters. This is the Chinese culture. It’s being practiced in China for six thousand years and still counting.

    All brothers and sisters of all the countries from all over the world across the Seven Seas will be conglomerating in Beijing this August to show their skills and ability the Olympic way with true Olympic sportsmanship/ spirit- competing like brothers and sisters. Win or lose an Olympic Championship, it doesn’t matter but must have that Olympic spirit.

    People from all over the world are welcome to the 2008 Beijing Olympic game and will be treated like true brothers and sisters.

    The divergent Chinese have no time talking to those ignorant/ ‘katak bawah tempurung’ banana Chinese. The banana Chinese got to go to Beijing Olympic 2008 to realize the greatness of the Chinese culture or else the banana Chinese who have foresaked your ancestors are a total disgrace to your ancestors. But to the Chinese Banana, they just don’t give a damn to him/her self, let alone to his/her ancestors.

    A Chinese banana is just like a banana tree, just a tiny gust of wind, it’s being uprooted and he/she can’t be bother the slightest. So? Let it be lah, so what?

    Sigh! A banana Chinese will, never, never, never be an asset to the asset man! Only a liability, just like Bush, the BN government and the BA, they are all liability to their5 respective denizens.

    Chaos and sayonara to all banana man/ woman! Go eat banana…… ha ha ha ha….

  72. Scott Thong says:

    Well, according to one university, I cannot be racist – because by definition, only WHITES who practise WHITE CULTURe can be racists.

    http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/10/authoritarian_b.html

    “[a] racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture or sexuality.”

    Apart from that, anyone who smears other races is a racist if the smearer is NOT a member of UMNO.

  73. t0boggan says:

    if you are relaxed about mass immigration, and would comfortably see your child , or grand-child in a minority of one in their classroom in the land of their parents, and grand-parents birth then you are not a racist, and I congratulate you.

    Oddly enough most people would not fit this criteria and to a greater, or lesser are in fact ‘racist’. It is perfectly possible to be an agreeable, affable, sociable person and still harbour some reservartions about a melting pot society.

    Here in the UK the word ‘racist’ is often used to stifle debate. A knee jerk comment or accusation whenever concerns about immigration are expressed. People do not relish being called ‘racist’ it is seen as an accusation akin to ‘devil-worshipper’ in some quarters!

    A happy Good Friday to everyone…Christians, and non-Christian alike. Racists are everywhere , and are legion. Not all of them believe certain races are inferior or superior….they just prefer their own. Sadly though there are good and bad people in every race.

  74. kartriter says:

    Racism is not so much the problem of attitudes towards one another, its the thing about being different in physical appearance, the oddity of it,and the feeling of difference that breeds out of it.
    I believe it existed always(which is obviously a natural thing), but culminates somewhere down the line in the future with all offsprings tending to similar physical trends.

  75. letygee says:

    If a person denies they are a racist, they are lying. Everyone has biases and prejudices in them. How we act out those attitudes is what determines our level of racism. I once read a poem by Dr. Seuss that addressed this issue. I will share it here with you…enjoy.

    Bellies With Stars

    THE SNEETCHES
    by Dr. Suess

    Now the Star-bellied Sneetches had bellies with stars.
    The Plain-bellied Sneetches had none upon thars.
    The stars weren’t so big; they were really quite small.
    You would think such a thing wouldn’t matter at all.
    But because they had stars, all the Star-bellied Sneetches
    would brag, “We’re the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches.”

    With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they’d snort, ”
    We’ll have nothing to do with the plain-bellied sort.”
    And whenever they met some, when they were out walking,
    they’d hike right on past them without even talking.

    When the Star-bellied children went out to play ball,
    could the Plain-bellies join in their game? Not at all!
    You could only play ball if your bellies had stars,
    and the Plain-bellied children had none upon thars.

    When the Star-bellied Sneetches had frankfurter roasts,
    or picnics or parties or marshmallow toasts,
    they never invited the Plain-bellied Sneetches.
    Left them out cold in the dark of the beaches.
    Kept them away; never let them come near,
    and that’s how they treated them year after year.

    Then one day, it seems, while the Plain-bellied Sneetches
    were moping, just moping alone on the beaches,
    sitting there, wishing their bellies had stars,
    up zipped a stranger in the strangest of cars.

    “My friends, ” he announced in a voice clear and keen,
    “My name is Sylvester McMonkey McBean.
    I’ve heard of your troubles; I’ve heard you’re unhappy.
    But I can fix that; I’m the fix-it-up chappie.
    I’ve come here to help you; I have what you need.
    My prices are low, and I work with great speed,
    and my work is one hundred per cent guaranteed.”

    Then quickly, Sylvester McMonkey McBean
    put together a very peculiar machine.
    Then he said, “You want stars like a Star-bellied Sneetch?
    My friends, you can have them . . . . for three dollars each.
    Just hand me your money and climb on aboard.”

    They clambered inside and the big machine roared.
    It bonked. It clonked. It jerked. It berked.
    It bopped them around, but the thing really worked.
    When the Plain-bellied Sneetches popped out, they had stars!
    They actually did, they had stars upon thars!

    Then they yelled at the ones who had stars from the start,
    “We’re exactly like you; you can’t tell us apart.
    We’re all just the same now, you snooty old smarties.
    Now we can come to your frankfurter parties!”

    “Good grief!” groaned the one who had stars from the first.
    “We’re still the best Sneetches, and they are the worst.
    But how in the world will we know,” they all frowned,
    “if which kind is what or the other way ’round?”

    Then up stepped McBean with a very sly wink, and he said,
    “Things are not quite as bad as you think.
    You don’t know who’s who, that is perfectly true.
    But come with me, friends, do you know what I’ll do?
    I’ll make you again the best Sneetches on beaches,
    and all it will cost you is ten dollars eaches.

    Belly stars are no longer in style, ” said McBean.
    “What you need is a trip through my stars-off machine.
    This wondrous contraption will take off your stars,
    so you won’t look like Sneetches who have them on thars.”

    That handy machine, working very precisely,
    removed all the stars from their bellies quite nicely.
    Then, with snoots in the air, they paraded about.
    They opened their beaks and proceeded to shout,
    “We now know who’s who, and there isn’t a doubt,
    the best kind of Sneetches are Sneetches without.”

    Then, of course those with stars all got frightfully mad.
    To be wearing a star now was frightfully bad.
    Then, of course old Sylvester McMonkey McBean
    invited them into his stars-off machine.
    Then, of course from then on, you can probably guess,
    things really got into a horrible mess.

    All the rest of the day on those wild screaming beaches,
    the Fix-it-up-Chappie was fixing up Sneetches.
    Off again, on again, in again, out again,
    through the machine and back round about again,
    still paying money, still running through,
    changing their stars every minute or two,
    until neither the Plain- nor the Star-bellies knew
    whether this one was that one or that one was this one
    or which one was what one or what one was who!

    Then, when every last cent of their money was spent,
    the Fix-It-Up-Chappie packed up and he went.
    And he laughed as he drove in his car up the beach,
    “They never will learn; no, you can’t teach a Sneetch!”

    But McBean was quite wrong, I’m quite happy to say,
    the Sneetches got quite a bit smarter that day.
    That day, they decided that Sneetches are Sneetches,
    and no kind of Sneetch is the BEST on the beaches.
    That day, all the Sneetches forgot about stars,
    and whether they had one or not upon thars.

  76. helenl says:

    Thank heaven Jesus died for all the racists. There is hope. “It’s Friday now, but Sunday’s comin’.”

  77. pantzdablogger says:

    I don’t agree with a commenter who says ‘all’ are bound to be racist…

    I think we are all bound to stereotype other races, but not be racist.

    great article

  78. yapchongyee says:

    CROSS THE FLOOR OF PARLIAMENT, YOU MCA RUNNING DOGS !

    The Chinese have voted overwhelmingly in favour of the opposition DAP or PKR and it was only in constituencies where the predominance of Malay voters caused the return of MCA candidates. This voting pattern demonstrated the community support of the Chinese for the opposition and therefore if those MCA Chinese Members of Parliament have any ethical and moral sense, they have a duty to cross the floor of Parliament and join with the opposition. That is the right thing to do since if the MCA claims to represent the Chinese community, then the voting pattern shows that they are on the wrong side of Chinese preference. If on the other hand such members of Parliament would rationalize their stay with UMNO on the argument that since it was the Malay votes that got them elected then they are morally committed to stay with UMNO in Parliament; but that argument will be turned on its head because the MCA claims to represent the Chinese not the Malays. That being the case they are morally obligated to either resign their seat or cross the floor of Parliament because the Chinese supports the opposition.

    The Malaysian general election of 2008 is the first election in Malaysian history that makes any sense at all because in all past elections the voting was rigged to return the UMNO led alliance to form government and consequently does not represent the true will of the minority voters. In the first election previously in 1967 the voting pattern of the minority races demonstrated that they would prefer to return an opposition to government and that was the election that prompted UMNO to organize a pogrom of minority races; and this time around all the indications point to a preference by the minority races to vote OPPOSITION, hence the childish symbolic actions of Hishamuddin wielding of that bloody Malay keris that instead of frightening the minority races provoked them to vote en bloc for the opposition. The keris scared no one, it only helped the opposition to really win support and the smell of possible success and to put UMNO out of government for the first time in Malaysian history. The general election for 2008 spell the end of race based politics and it is this if not for anything else that MCA must take heed that they bear a special and heavy responsibility to cross the floor of Parliament because it has always been the betrayal by the MCA & the MIC that has given UMNO the pretext to pervert the Malaysian Constitution to ENTRENCH MALAY SPECIAL PRIVILEGES FOR AS LONG AS UMNO IS IN POWER. This election marks the end of that distortion of our Malaysian democratic rights. We the Chinese & Indians have for the first time in history put our rights as Malaysians in proper context; we have the last chance to be what we really are, MALAYSIAN CHINESE OR MALAYSIAN INDIANS OR MALAYSIAN MALAYS; we are truly for the first time CITIZENS OF A MALAYSIAN MALAYSIA; and it took us 50 years of hard slough to get there AND FUCKING MCA OR MIC OUGHT NOT AGAIN SELL US OUT TIS TIME. The MCA is duty bound to cross the floor of Parliament to join Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim to form the GOVERNMENT of a truly Malaysian Malaysia that represents all Malaysians.

    I want to further emphasize my point of view. I suggest that for those Chinese from MCA who are obligated to cross the floor of Parliament should do so in their personal capacity as Members of Parliament and not as representing MCA because they have a duty to remove RACE BASED POLITICS for the good of future generation of Chinese & Indian and Malays. Race based politics is and has been totally unacceptable and it has always been divisive and an abuse of our human rights; let MCA & MIC fade into the background of history as a failed model for good governance. I suggest that MCA should become a sports club for Chinese.

    I had earlier stated that at this time in Malaysian history MCA carry a particularly heavy duty to act in the best interests of the Chinese people. This victory for the Barisan Alternative has come about due to the incompetence of PM Abdullah Badawi and to the power of the internet and the accident of history that Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim was expelled from UMNO under very treacherous and bitter circumstances.. Were it not for the power play between Mahatir Mohd., and Dato Seri Anwar, UMNO will still dominate Malaysian politics and the condition for a democratic change of government will not emerge for any fore-seeable future. I say that these circumstances will not converge again for a very long time IF MCA ACT IRRESPONSIBLY and not cross the floor of Parliament. This window of opportunity exist for only the life of this parliament and if MCA Members of Parliament REMAIN IN COALITION WITH UMNO & MIC then the UMNO government will survive until the next general election when let me guarantee you Malaysians all (of all races) that UMNO will heavily GRASP GOVERNMENT sans election or with election, no matter what BECAUSE THE HIGH COURTS ARE CONTROLLED BY UMNO JUDGES AND THE POLICE ARE CONTROLLED BY UMNO APPOINTEES. I cite a precedent in the election of the MP for Bukit Bintang, when issues relating to the legality of the elections ( I believe it was one relating to the counting of the votes ) went to the High Court for decision; and the federal court was headed by TUN Fairoz. The Court decided that there were irregularity and promptly awarded the seat to MCA candidate. This was a glaring MISCARRIAGE OF LAW AND JUSTICE, because if his decision was that there was irregularity his duty is to declare the election VOID and declare the seat vacant and call for a by-election for the same seat. THIS WAS BECAUSE TUN FAIROZ IS AN UMNO JUDGE. The present Court of Appeal have a majourity of UMNO judges as for example Dato Zainon binti Mohd. Ali and the President of the Court of Appeal Tan Seri Zaki Azmi.

    In these circumstances UMNO can rigged all elections and have a parliament of all UMNO Members of Parliament and any challenge will be decided by UMNO Judges. Malaysia will revert to the Malaysia of old. I say to our running dogs of MCA members of Parliament that you cannot seal and condemn all Chinese to a fate that is as good as death. This year 2008 is the tipping point in the history of Malaysian history, will we survive as Chinese or Indians depend on our running dogs from the MCA to act honourably and responsibly ! CROSS THE FLOOR YOU MCA BASTARDS.

  79. conflictedbonbon says:

    I had no idea good friday mean’t this. Top article!

  80. Hopefully Pastor Wright and Ms. Ferraro will participate in events aimed at eliminating racism.

    It is a terrible irony that people who profess to be devoted to justice and equality still fall into racism.

    Fortunately, we can be what we choose to be and we can choose to be good. The hard part is making the choice into reality. If talking about it were enough, than that would be just what the world needed (I’m stealing from Aristotle here, of course). What is needed is for virtue to become the habit rather than vice (again, stealing from Aristotle).

    http://aphilosopher.wordpress.com

  81. cquake says:

    “May the truth save us all”.
    Amen, Susan.

    I myself would also add “love”, because that’s what we’re needing now: tons of love to heal us from this incredible pain we’re causing to ourselves.

    Have a very happy Easter, you and all people you love.

    Chandra.

  82. Mart Garbera says:

    suasan, you need “education” from above!

    those who decry racism are illusionist. singapore discriminates malays. usa discriminates blacks/hispanics/asians. usa has patriot act that discrimintes muslims. singapore has isa designed to discriminate those who challenge a chinese dictatorship. malaysia has isa. israel discriminates palestinians and usa supports it.

    susan loone. you have read the wrong books and mixed with the wrong people too long! the people you mixed with and the books you have been reading were all written by those whose hearts are lost, deaf. dumb and blind.

    i will prove it ( this term i used: “all written by those whose hearts are lost, deaf. dumb and blind”) by provoking you with these questions:
    where do YOU come from?
    what are YOU supposed to do here?
    where are YOU going?

    if you can’t answer these thre3 (3) basic questions, what makes you think you can challenge the system of the Creator?

  83. lelaforpeace says:

    I,m living in a multiracial housing area and allow my children to mingle with everyone in the kidergarden and playground. Anyway I always remind my bigger son not to eat food from neigbour house in case it is non Halal ( Sometimes the neigbour would forget about the do and don’t) . For my small girl, I always restrict her from visiting neigbour house unless I,m around, for the same reason. Am I racist? No , because I did it based on religion ground. There is Halal and Haram. Even in a religion teaching there is no racism, all human being is similar, nothing differentiate them unless what is inside their heart , how religious they are and relationship with other mankind especially neighbour is also important. Prophet and Quran teaching is clear about it. Again , it is back to the basic issue about racism, racism is bad , religion is good and suppose to bind us altogether. Anyway I have to admit that there are a lots of my fellow brothers and sisters out there who didn’t follow the teaching in a proper way. Have a good day for everyone and relax.

  84. missing tunku says:

    What is Article 153 of the Constitution?

    READ IT TO THE LAST DROP & THEN MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND ..

    Unveiling the truth of Malay ‘Special Rights’ ….

    The recurring issue of Malay ‘special rights’ was again brought into
    focus when Opposition Leader Lim Kit Siang moved to reprimand Higher
    Education Minister Shaffie Salleh in Parliament on Dec 1st for the
    latter’s recent racial utterances.

    In the recently concluded UMNO annual assembly, Shaffie vowed to never admit any non-Malay students to the public funded Universiti Institute Teknologi Mara (UiTM), and he also undertook to ensure that in spite of the current meritocracy system of university intake, Malay students would always exceed 55%, which was the percentage stipulated under the previous quota system.

    Proposing the motion, Kit Siang described these policy statements as
    shocking and extremist. He exerted that apart from damaging Malaysia ‘s
    international reputation, they undermined national unity and integration
    and lowered competitiveness all round.

    Opposing the motion, MP Ahmad Shabery Cheek (UMNO, Kemaman) accused Kit Siang of stirring up racial issues and challenging Malay ‘special rights’, for which Ahmad quoted Article 153 of the Federal Constitution which prescribed these rights.

    Kit Siang denied these accusations and asked the newly appointed Speaker Ramli Ngah Talib for a ruling as to whether the motion was deemed seditious. The Speaker remained silent. As expected, the motion was eventually rejected in view of ruling party BN’s overwhelming majority.

    Forty seven years after Independence , racial issues continued to
    monopolise national politics, and championing Malay rights remains the
    single dominant ideology of the only ruling power that this independent
    nation has known, UMNO. Thousands of speeches have been made championing this Malay cause, using various terminologies such as Malay ‘special rights’, Malay ‘special privileges’ or simply Malay ‘rights’, often
    invoking the nation’s Constitution as the legal back-up. But, of the
    thousands of politicians who have used these terminologies, how many
    have read through the Constitution to find out what these ‘rights’
    really are? Very few, perhaps!

    Our Constitution is printed in a small booklet that can be bought for
    about RM10 in the book shops. Buy one copy and read through to find out
    what it says about these ‘rights’. After all, these issues have been the
    hottest favourites of our politicians ever since our Independence .
    Aren’t you curious to find out?

    If you have read through the Constitution to look for an answer to these
    Malay ‘rights’, perhaps the first thing that has struck you is that,
    familiar terminologies such as Malay ‘special rights’, Malay ‘special
    privileges’ or Malay ‘rights’ are no where to be found in the
    Constitution. Instead, we only find the term ‘the special position of
    the Malays’, which appears twice, in Clause (1) and Clause (2) of
    Article 153, which is titled ‘Reservation of quotas in respect of
    services, permits, etc, for Malays and natives of any of the States of
    Sabah and Sarawak’.

    (The natives of Sabah and Sarawak were only incorporated into the
    Constitution upon the formation of Malaysia in 1963, during which Sabah
    , Sarawak and Singapore were merged with Malaya to form Malaysia . In
    this article, the words ‘the natives of Sabah and Sarawak ‘ will not be
    repeated after the word ‘Malay’ when I quote from the Constitution, for
    abbreviation purpose).

    MP Ahmad Shabery Cheek has of course correctly pinpointed Article 153 as that part of the Constitution upon which Malay ‘rights’ were founded.
    But has he read and understood the full meaning of Article 153?

    Anyone who has read through Article 153 might be surprised to discover
    that the provisions favouring Malays are in fact quite moderate, and
    certainly no way as stretched out in intensity and scope as our
    politicians would want us to believe. Similarly, those provisions
    protecting the non-Malays as a counter-balance to the special position
    of the Malays under this Article are also surprisingly quite well
    conceived and fair. In fact, when read in conjunction with Article 8
    (Equality) and Article 136 (Impartial treatment of Federal employees),
    Article 153 cannot be construed as having significantly violated the
    egalitarian principles of our Constitution, contrary to common
    perception.

    Since the egalitarian nature of our Constitution is largely intact, in
    spite of the presence of Article 153, then why should it have acquired
    such an adverse reputation as the legal root of all kinds of racial
    inequalities in this country?

    Answer: the fault is not with our Constitution, but with our politicians
    twisting, misinterpreting and abusing it.

    It is perhaps high time we get to the bottom of Article 153.

    Clause (1) of Article 153 states: ‘It shall be the responsibility of the
    Yang di-Pertuan Agong to safeguard the special position of the Malays
    and the legitimate interests of other communities in accordance with the provisions of this Article’.

    So, the first understanding that we must have on Article 153 is that it
    is meant to protect the interests of not only the Malays, but also those
    of the non-Malays.

    Next, note the deliberate use of the words ‘safeguard’ and ‘special
    position’ (instead of ‘special rights’ or ‘special privileges’). The
    choice of these words must be understood in the historical context of
    the drafting of this Constitution half a century ago when Malays were
    economically and educationally backward in relation to other races. It
    was thought fit and proper then that there must be ‘safeguards’ to
    protect the Malays from being swarmed over by other races. Hence, the
    creation of the ‘special position’ of the Malays, which was obviously
    intended for defensive purpose: to protect for survival. The impeccable
    avoidance of using words like ‘rights’ and ‘privileges’, and the choice
    of the word ‘safeguard’ were clearly calculated to reflect its defensive
    nature. Under that historical context, the provision of the special
    position of the Malays in the Constitution certainly could not be
    interpreted to mean the endowment of racial privileges to create a
    privileged class of citizenship.

    Clause (2) says that the Yang di-Pertuan Agong shall safeguard the
    special position of the Malays by reserving positions ‘of such
    proportion as he may deem reasonable’ in a) the public service b)
    educational facilities and c) business licenses.

    Clauses (3) & (6) say that the Yang di-Pertuan Agong may, for purpose of
    fulfilling Clause (2), give general directions to the relevant
    authorities, which shall then duly comply.

    There is a separate clause covering the allocation of seats in tertiary
    education – Clause (8A). It says that where there are insufficient
    places for any particular course of study, the Yang di-Pertuan Agong may
    give directions for the ‘reservation of such proportion of such places
    for Malays as the Yang di-Pertuan Agong may deem reasonable; and the
    authority shall duly comply with the directions.’

    As for the protection of non-Malays against possible encroachment of
    their existing interests, there are several provisions under different
    clauses in this Article, prohibiting the deprivation of the existing
    facilities enjoyed by them, whether in public service, education or
    trading licenses. Of these protective clauses, Clauses (5) and (9) are
    particularly significant.

    Clause (5) consists of one sentence, which reads: ‘This Article does not
    derogate from the provisions of Article 136’.

    Article 136 also consists of one sentence, which reads: ‘All persons of
    whatever race in the same grade in the service of the Federation shall,
    subject to the terms and conditions of their employment, be treated
    impartially.’

    Clause (9) consists of one sentence, which reads: ‘Nothing in this
    Article shall empower Parliament to restrict business or trade solely
    for the purpose of reservations for Malays.’

    Reading Article 153 will not be complete without reading Article 89
    (Equality). I will quote the more significant Clauses (1) and (2) of
    this Article in full, as follows:

    Clause (1) states: ‘All persons are equal before the law and entitled to
    the equal protection of the law.’

    Clause (2) states: ‘Except as expressly authorized by this Constitution,
    there shall be no discrimination against citizens on the ground only of
    religion, race, descent or place of birth in any law or in the
    appointment to any office or employment under a public authority or in
    the administration of any law relating to the acquisition, holding or
    disposition of property or the establishing or carrying on of any trade,
    business, profession, vocation or employment.’

    Reading through these Articles of the Constitution, we are able to draw
    the following conclusions:

    1. The present clamour for Malay ‘special rights’ as sacrosanct racial
    privileges of a privileged race, especially under the ideological ambit
    of Ketuanan Melayu (Malay the master race), is in conflict with the
    letters and spirit of the Constitution.

    2. The special position of the Malays as prescribed under Article 153 of
    the Constitution is limited in scope to only the reservation of
    reasonable quotas in these 3 sectors: public services, educational
    places and business licenses. Hence, the present rampant racial
    discriminations practiced on almost every facet of our national life are
    mostly violations of the Constitution. Examples of these violations are:

    a) Racial discrimination in the appointment and promotion of employees
    in publicly funded bodies, resulting in these becoming almost mono-raced bodies (particular so in their top strata). These bodies include: the
    civil service, police, army and various semi and quasi government
    agencies.

    b) Barring of non-Malays from tenders and contracts controlled directly
    or indirectly by the government.

    c) Imposition of compulsory price discounts and quotas in favour of
    Malays in housing projects.

    d) Imposition of compulsory share quota for Malays in non-Malay
    companies.

    e) Blanket barring of non-Malays to publicly funded academic
    institutions (that should include the UITM, which is the subject of
    debate in Parliament referred to earlier in this article).

    f) Completely lop-sided allocation of scholarships and seats of learning
    in clearly unreasonable proportions that reflect racial discriminations.

    3) Our Constitution provides for only one class of citizenship and all
    citizens are equal before the law. The presence of Article 153 does not
    alter this fact, as it is meant only to protect the Malays from being
    ‘squeezed’ by other races by allowing the reservation of reasonable
    quotas on certain sectors of national life. However, this Constitution
    has now been hijacked through decades of hegemony of political power by the ruling party to result in the virtual monopoly of the public sector
    by a single race. The ensuing racism, corruption and corrosion of
    integrity of our democratic institutions have brought serious
    retrogression to our nation-building process in terms of national unity,
    discipline, morality and competitiveness of our people.

    4) At this critical juncture, when nations in this region and around the
    world are urgently restructuring and shaping up to cope with
    globalization, our nation stagnates in a cesspool that has been created
    through decades of misrule. Unless urgent reforms are carried out,
    beginning with the dismantling of the anachronistic racial
    superstructure, we are in for serious troubles in the days ahead.

  85. James Joyce says:

    To: Missing tunku

    Phew, that was something. I agree with you . We have been deliberately misled to where we are now. AS such, the origin of this abuse and mis direction started since the NEP, Razak’s time.

    We now have the mother of all, but the sons of all followed the same trail and till today after 50 years (pls discount Tunku) we were where we were 50 years back. Wow, what an improvement.

    So, this new change is good, we need to get rid of those present and past whose evil deeds instill into us the blessed racist we all are nowadays.

    Malaysia Boleh

  86. College Lecturer says:

    Hey Lim, you missed my point completely! I was not talking about Chinese-educated people not knowing how to speak English properly, but I was referring to Mandarin. I know a minority of Chinese who took the trouble to study the Beijing Standard (including members of my family) and whenever they go to China on business or when Chinese businessmen come over, they prefer to deal with Malaysians who can speak the Beijing Standard. When I worked in JB, most Chinese could not pronounce Mandarin properly despite the Chinese schools and Singapore TV. Their Teochew & Hokkien dialect totally warped their pronunciation. I recall talking about this to Chinese school teachers, many of whom spoke really well but they said their students were stubborn and only followed the way their family members spoke. Any wya I have no wish to waste my time continuing this with people like you, you are no different from the narrow-minded Chinese students I met in UM. Good luck to you.

  87. College Lecturer says:

    Dear Asset Man, interesting diatribe but I heard it all before and debated on it for hours in UM. It is a very typical Chinese Malaysian ethnocentric view based on a misunderstanding of your own cultural roots. My grandparents came from China at the height of the Japanese invasion of China. They were from northern China, educated in Chinese universities and were technocrats working for the KMT-run civil service. When they came to Malaya, they pitied the Chinese here who only had half-baked and notional ideas of what it means to be Chinese. My grandfather used to say, most of the Malayan Chinese were not even considered to be Han Chinese by the imperial government a few centuries back. They were conquered, sometimes re-located, their original languages ruthlessly purged and modified and they were forced to adopt Chinese script, dress and laws. Before you laugh at the “banana Chinese”, don’t forget the British never wanted the non-“bananas” to lead our nation after Merdeka (example: Chin Peng, etc). The British only prepared to deal with the “bananas” in the MCA top leadership at the time (Tun Tan Cheng Lock, etc). In my mind, there is no premium in being a non-“banana”. But I can understand your insecurities. Our whole oppressive socio-political system has forced you into this type of defensive thinking.

  88. College Lecturer says:

    Hello Missing Tunku, since you are on the topic of the Federal Constitution (Raja Nazrin would be very proud of you!), why not debate the provisions of Article 45? This Article gives us the right to have an elected Senate. Enough with all these back-door entries into the cabinet via appointed senatorships. I say we should have an elected Senate as a further check and balance to Dewan Rakyat.

  89. asset man says:

    College Lecturer,

    I don’t know what you are talking about but only know that you have a very shallow knowledge in Chinese history. You are just like some rain water in remote inland and which doesn’t know your original source- the sea water from the ocean.

    The banana Chinese like Tan Cheng Lock, Tan Siew Sin, Khoo Kai Boh, Ling Liong Sik, Lim Keng Aik etc etc. are/were all Chinese traitors selling the rights of the Chinese for their own gains. If they were in China, they would have sent to the padi field for hardcore brain washing.

    There wasn’t a need for your parents to ‘pity’ the Chinese laborers. They started with their bare hands and worked through the success cycle. They accumulated their meager savings and started to do businesses. They were then living a lifestyle much better than your parents who could only coveted.

    In fact, they countered pity your parents who had to eat ‘chalk powder’ and taught the incorrigible banana students some garbage which didn’t benefit to the students/ nation/ mankind… Just like what you are doing now! Like useless father like useless son!

    You are a liability to the Chinese/ Malaysians with your debt-incurred notes of lecturing. It’s better you resign from your post or you shall be sacked by the University Board of Authorities.

    Where on earth got a Chinese would disparage his ancestors/ roots. It’s akin to marketing a branded product, the grand-grand-grand son/ daughter condemning the product and his/ her ancestors? Don’t you think this is what you are doing now? Do you think the people will buy the product if you are condemning it instead of explaining to a customer the benefits of using/ buying it? Hey! The company will incur losses and soon will be debt ridden and soon close shop.

    Hey College Lecturer! If you are condemning your roots, do you think other community will have a respect on your root? Isn’t one responsibility to propagate one’s root, let alone protect it from extinction?

    Hey! College lecturer, you are just a useless shallow minded lecturer with narrow outlook. The nation has to redeem all your liabilities for all your ignorance, just like the Umno-led BN, These Umno and cronies will use the nation’s wealth doing a losing money project, made tons of money for themselves, then sell the bankrupt company to the government who will not hesitate to raise money from the Malaysian people to ‘save’ the company. In the end it’s the people who have to bear the losses.

    Are you cognizant that you are just like the Umno-led BN, you will be cursed for 10,000 years for your ignominious/ ignorant action for selling you roots/ ancestors?

    They are many many Chinese who didn’t go to College or University but they contributed a lot to the well beings of the Nation and they are much better than many professors, let alone a pariah college lecturer like you!

    Only a pariah like you couldn’t find a challenging job in the private commercial/ industrial sectors which pay supreme salaries but have to resort to a college job misleading other people’s children. With a pariah college lecturer ‘bluffing makan’ in college, is it wondered that local Universities don’t even top a miserable spot in the top 200 spots of world standing.

    You are not only a liability to the nation, but creating more liabilities /unemployable graduates in the market place.

    So in order for you to be an asset to the University, all the garbage in you brain memory must be erased/ removed completely and sent you for advanced new informative contemporary training. But since you are too old to use your brain, if you want, you can do some manual work in the college like sweeping floor and cleaning ‘janbans’. Then the college will be able to transform from losses to profits.

    Or if you think you can contribute to the nation by selling banana in some hawker court, please go ahead since it’s your specialty for a Chinese banana like you! Surely you will be a profitable banana Chinese. Yes! College Lecturer, think profits, profits, profits, then you know why you do not want to lose your roots.

    This is the basic principle of humankind. You need the roots to be able to stand tall and be profitable to you and to all original Chinese!

    Au revoir! Collge banana lecturer and good luck and be an asset to the Chinese, not liability please on this planet earth!

  90. lelaforpeace says:

    Hi Missing Tunku. ( Do you mean Tunku abdul Rahman) . If you do, maybe you were missing some aspect of Tunku, but because of what had happened during his time now we are forced to supply water to Singapore ( cheap price some more!). Of course he had fought for our independence, it goes again that among all Ruler there will be a positive and negative thing. What a waste, the water should be supplied to KL and Selangor instead out there!

  91. College Lecturer says:

    Ha-ha! Asset Man, I knew you were a Chinese chauvinist and I wanted to draw you out and I have succeeded. A lot of people I know reading this (all Chinese-educated) are laughing at you but they are NOT bothered to waste their time in sparring with you. It is people like you who are obstacles to national unity. You can call me all sorts of names – “Sticks and stones may break my bones but names shall never hurt me” but it clear you are very insecure in your outlook. You are to be pitied.

  92. sam says:

    It took the Americans more than 200 years to accept a Black as a presidential candidate.

    Can Malaysians quit the racial scene in 50 years?

    By the grace of God, we can.

    God save Malaysia.

  93. armsteel says:

    Many ‘racist’ comments here, of course no one will say “I’m a racist”…I’m not Malay,Chinese nor Indian but “DLL”(like mixed rojak),so I regard myself as “MALAYSIAN”…..

  94. asset man says:

    College Lecturer,

    I have attained financial freedom and I have fixed and liquid assets here and overseas. It’s all through hard work and determination. Every month I have regular income coming from different sources.

    Financial freedom means doing things that you want to do- like what I am doing now- educating the banana Chinese the importance of roots. Only through roots, one can really excel in one aspirations. All you have to do is do follow the culture and custom, presto, you are on your way to success, happiness, harmony and peace for your family, society, nation/ world.

    What kind of culture are you following? Banana culture? What have you achieved with your banana culture? What have Tan Cheng Lock, Tan Siew Sin, Lee Shiok Yew, Ling Keng Aik, Lim Liong Sik achieved while in politics for the Chinese/ nation?

    Nothing! Nothing! Nothing! They are/were all liabilities to the Nation/ humankind. What have the Chinese benefited through all these traitors/ running dogs of Umnoputras?

    Why did the MB of Perlis want to send his children to Chinese school? Now his children are proud to know the Chinese language / culture. They have many Chinese and Malay friends instead of Malays only. They are happy and proud they can write/ read and speak the Chinese language and know the Chinese culture.

    People from all over the world are flocking to China to study Mandarin. Even in the USA, the number of Americans studying Mandarins have increased many many folds.

    FYI, the happenings used to be the West, but now the happenings are in China. If you are thinking of doing business in China, and if you don’t learn Mandarin and the Chinese culture, you are not thinking!

    So looking at the 6,000 years of culture and the prosperity of China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau, Singapore, you will be very safe following the Chinese language and culture.

    Why want to risk your personal and familysuccess and happiness using the failed banana culture? Come on! College Lecturer, why want to be a recalcitrant sticking to your banana culture? Just a slight Tsunami and you are uprooted.

    Why they are 200,000 Chinese emigrating to overseas Countries and 600,000 Chinese proselytize to Muslims even though it’s a irreversible process? It means total uprooted for good! Why the Umnoputras/ Pas looking for banana Chinese to proselytize and not the Chinese-educated Chinese? Why did the Umnoputras and MCA bananas reluctantly build more Chinese school using the supply and demand Chinese educational system?

    Why should the Chinese-educated Chinese want to settle from a fine and sophisticated 6,000 year of culture/ custom to an problematic Islamic religion?

    So it’s an asset to learn one’s root and Chinese education is a must if you want to live an successful and meaningful life. Where as the banana culture is a bane to the main Chinese- the source. Banana Chinese is just another ‘diluted Chinese’ who will have problems surviving in this tough competitive world because they don’t have solid pillars to cling to for help/ guidance in time of troubles/ problems.

    I have been following the Chinese culture and when compared to other nations’ cultures, I am really proud to follow the Chinese culture and I have an unfair advantage when competing in businesses with people’s of different culture and also because you know a few languages- like sparring with College Lecturer. Do I have a upper hand over College Lecturer if I know the English and Chinese Languages as opposed to College Lecturer’s English Language only?

    But am I proud of it? Not a bit but I feel heartache watching all these banana Chinese being uprooted while also trying to uproot other Chinese- banana and non-banana.

    So I have attained my financial freedom. I can do the things I wanted to do and don’t have to worry late for work clocking in and clocking out in a company. I can go overseas anytime playing golf, sight seeing/ fishing with my local/ overseas buddies. I can also dine in a fine restaurants at my own volition. I can buy what I wanted to buy and to roll over instead of rolling out of bed every morning, brushing teeth and rushing to catch a tube.

    I am enjoying my life to the hilt in this world but at the same time, educating/ helping others fighting/ achieving their aspirations!

    Did I play a good role in the success of the opposition parties in this just concluded 12 General Election in Malaysia, dear College Lecturer? You bet I did!

    asset man will always be an asset to himself, family, society, nation and United Nations!

    Adios, Cheers and good luck!

    asset man.

  95. kai says:

    Hi armsteel
    March 25, 2008 at 1:44 am

    Arrr, Armsteel why you no read all posting-ley re: “kai Says: March 21, 2008 at 3:47 pm” I am racist too lah, no doubt about it. No shy-ley. Must tell honestly lor!. I am just like UMNO, MCA and MIC, and some even say the same to DAP lor!

    BTW, I love rojak, especially those Indian style.

    Australia

  96. College Lecturer says:

    Asset Man, you really make my day! I am also from Chinese school background like you and I have worked in the PRC before but this is an English language blog which I just discovered so I am writing in English. I would advise you to stop being a Chinese chauvinist (and racist?) and to look down at others as you are living in a multi-ethnic society which respects all religions. Wealth does not buy you respectability. This is what my late grandfather used to say, the Chinese in Malaysia think that by attaining wealth they can use it to buy respectability and social positions. That is an illusion as a peasant however rich remains a peasant in outlook! If you were truly educated (and I am not referring to language here) you would be more accepting of the world outside China. You have no idea what China is really like and how could you? Your ancestors left so long ago and under very different circumstances. I know so many Chinese educated people who are not like you and they do not agree with you. Despite what you say about the MCA, you sound exactly like one of them!

  97. Harrison bin Hansome says:

    Sorry to miss this but like LKS said “better late than never” about this commentator calling susan a racist for not releasing his/her commenteries.

    tunabdulrazak Says:
    March 21, 2008 at 9:59 pm
    “Susan Loone is. She did not approve my earlier comment.”

    For the records, Susan Loone readily defended against any attempts of racisms. I hate to rehash old matters but your accusations merited me to. Susan even lost a friend for that matter. Although upon further review, racisms uttered by that person was rhethorical. He’s a far refined man now.

    As for Susan whom you claimed of not approving your commenteries, I cited a case by analogy. I chided Mahathir’s draconian domestic and double-standard foreign policies (Palestinaians and East Timor treatments)
    at a pro-Mahathir blog.

    My commenteries were disaproved by the blogger and the one approved by the blogger were castigating me although the blogger.

    Oh yeah, I forgotten, I beleive you are not a cyber-trooper. Coz when the local merceneries failed, the Secretary of Youth and Sprorts was shuffled to head the Tourism Ministry. If you are imported cyber trooper, I think the hirer wants a refund coz you are far piss-poor than the locals. Hahaha.

  98. hazel says:

    Dear Asset Man,

    What do you mean by problematic Islam religion? can’t get enough by discussing your uprooted-banana bla bla bla issue? FYI, Islam and Malay can’t be put into a same issue, as one is of religion and one is of race. So please be more careful when discussing your uprooted-banana bla bla bla issue without highlightning the unnecessary. Everybody knows that converting to Islam religion doesn’t mean you’re severing any ties with your family, friends, culture, hometown, country, banana roots, wuteva. And all Malay are definitely born a Muslim since that’s how Islam religion works, by heritage, so that’s no escape and we do love our religion. Maybe you should learn a few Agama Islam lessons and see why ‘600,000 Chinese proselytize to Muslims even though it’s a irreversible process’ as there’s definitely no life-death threat for any Chinese (should I say more appropriately Buddhist/ Christians/ Pagans/ Scientology/etc. religion ?) to convert to Islam.
    Perhaps you’re following the pitiful and useless US soldiers in Iraq examples, born n raised in US, but died defending another nation, for unnecessary cause. Roots perhaps?

  99. armsteel says:

    hi Kai,

    I love rojak too…

  100. us soldier says:

    Islam is a weird religion. You can convert other people but not the other way round.

    You can screw other people’s daughter, but not the other way round.

    Screw you A*8*h Lah!

  101. hazel says:

    Well, it’s not the Islamic teaching itself, its the bearer of the religion him/herself….nobody can claim they’re perfect if they even have an ounce of envy in them, it’s all in the human nature. Couldn’t recall any religion that taught their follower to go screw or kill another human being. Yet we have so many transgression that coloured our world. What religion are they? Are they really follow their religion’s teaching?
    It’s true Islam is unlike any other religion, as Islam is not like a piece of cloth that you can change everyda. But it’s far from make it weird. It makes it more genuine and mature as it is firm with its teaching. You can not change any Islamic law or the wording of Holy Al-Quran simply to suit any political purpose.
    Therefore, before you condemned Islam, learn your own religion well and starts believing it. Then maybe you can understand other religions as well.

    (Btw, this is way out of topic here !, right Susan? :))

  102. Ghee! The Muslims are real bast**%ds / hypocrites who don’t practice what they preached, like tooth for tooth, eye for eye.

    The US soldiers have to bulldoze through , we r%$p and bang bang. All these Bedouins are just a nuisance to mankind, that’s why they are OK if consigned to the deserts where they can practice their idiosyncrasies but not with other people with other faiths in populated areas.

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