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The poster says: “Malaysian Buddhists, you can determine the outcome of this election! Deny BN Hegemony! Pu Zhoa Temple Not Allowed to Hold Temple Activities! Temple Cannot Have Buddha Statues! Even Buddha Has Fire in His Heart!

Pu Zhao Temple is an old temple in Kluang, Johor. In 1986, it was given to the Young Buddhist Association of Malaysia to develop a new Buddhist center. The project started in 1991 but the villagers protested, and subsequently, it was banned by the municipal government.

This year, on the edge of the 12th General Election, the project is suddenly approved but must comply with 9 conditons. Two of the conditions are considered “illogical”. First, no religious activities are allowed in the temple. And the second, Buddhist statues are  prohibited as part of the design around the compound area of the Pu Zhao Temple.

What kind of temple would it be then? – Without religious activities and without statues?

31 responses »

  1. […] Product Reviews Net wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptBhuddist temple prohibited to run religious activities Posted in ELECTIONS GENERAL, HEADS UP!, MALAYSIAN MADNESS, NEWS, POLITICAL, Pissed-off, RELIGIOUS on March 6, 2008 by sloone The poster says: “Malaysian Buddhists, you can determine the outcome of this election! Deny BN Hegemony! Pu Zhoa Temple Not Allowed to Hold Temple Activities! Temple Cannot Have Buddha Statues! Even Buddha Has Fire in His Heart! […]

  2. […] Product Reviews Net wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptBhuddist temple prohibited to run religious activities Posted in ELECTIONS GENERAL, HEADS UP!, MALAYSIAN MADNESS, NEWS, POLITICAL, Pissed-off, RELIGIOUS on March 6, 2008 by sloone The poster says: “Malaysian Buddhists, you can determine the outcome of this election! Deny BN Hegemony! Pu Zhoa Temple Not Allowed to Hold Temple Activities! Temple Cannot Have Buddha Statues! Even Buddha Has Fire in His Heart! […]

  3. wits0 says:

    Incidentally, whatsoever reports that emanate from Johor are seldom good, be it about CSL sex scandal or Umno mores.

    This is another clear example of what Umno/BN unfettered hegemony is about – hide your Light so that theirs will shine(expressed in more than one way). But then, again, what Light do they have? How could the Forces of Darkness have Light(Spiritual Light, i.e)?

  4. Can you imagine being allowed to cook curry
    But you can’t add to it any sort of chilly?
    When ‘Little Napoleons’ decide in a hurry
    Their decisions are as silly as any billy

    (C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 060308
    http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
    http://msi.Rocky101.com
    Thur. 6th Mar. 2008.

  5. kopisejuk says:

    What kind of temple would it be then? – Without religious activities and without statues?

    ————————————————
    UMNO-type of temple maybe……..

  6. David Yong says:

    Sheer rubbish!!!! WE cant even practice our religion.

  7. Y C Chai says:

    This project was delayed for more than 20 years and the party that claimed to represent Chinese community has time and again manipulate on this issue for their political gain by putting a show to champion our religious right. However, they can’t even get through the municipal hurdle let alone the state or national administration. Mind you, Ong Ka Ting, Ong Ka Chuan and Koh Tsu Koon all claimed to be staunch Buddhist but are totally silent on this issue. The Buddhist community are a silent and patient lot. They do not want to go against the law and wish to resolve the matter through a proper and civilise manner.

    My question is, with these insulting conditions imposed, could we still think we are not marginalised? Only those morons and traitors will agree that we are being treated equally by the BN government.

    I also wish to ask if OKT, OKC and KTK if they ever feel guilty or shameful when they pay homage to the Buddha statue? Or they are just pretending to be a believer. As i said earlier, Buddhist has great virtue of patient and non confrontational. But, let there be someone to break that traits and start questioning our own so-called / self proclaimed leaders for a better tomorrow.

    Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu.

  8. Low Yin Sen says:

    So sad and sick to see and hear such news. What is happenning in Malaysia???

  9. tan says:

    YES VERY TRUE…..WE KNOW LONG AGO BUT THE IDIOT MONKS AND BUDDHIST LEADERS ARE SO SCARE OF THE UMNO……PLEASE SPREAD AROUND..

    ITS TRUE

  10. Harrison bin Hansome says:

    If a Buddhist temple is prohibited to run religious activities, then it cannot be called a temple anymore. This is just like prohibiting cars from mobile on roads, and aeroplane cannot “take offs”. What a draconian law.

  11. Dr. Lowrey says:

    Please, can you provide USA, UN and Malaysian contact information for purposes of protesting this action against religious exercise?

    Also, in USA we are in Utah subjected to local government attempting to deny our practice of religious exercise and failure of State and Utah branches of Federal Agencies to protect our Civil and Religious rights.

    I will post about this issue in Malaysia on our Whole Life Ministries blog http://locokazoo.com where you may also find information about Utah’s attack against our church.

  12. bamboo river says:

    May I suggest all Johoreans to go to this temple on the 19th May 2008…WESAK Day.
    All neighbouring states,Negeri Sembilan and Malacca too.
    Make the biggest buddhist congregation in the history to show solidarity on freedom of religions.
    Non Buddhist too can attend.
    I used to attend Wesak day celebration although I am not a Buddhist. It is a celebration for all you see?
    Just note it down in your calendar.

  13. Chiong Kok says:

    I think the problem came from the local council. As the council members were appointed by the BN the members were obliged to follow the dictates of the people in BN. Such a position of not having any statue or religious activities must have come from UMNO.

    The local council should be an elected body so that they serve the day to day concerns of the people in an area rather then serving the dictates of some shadowy character from BN.

    A dialogue should also be started between the buddhists and the muslims. As I understand it Islam and muslims are obliged to defend and allow the religious practices of non-muslims in a predominantly muslim area. Kelantan is a good example of this. Nik Aziz even called the hindus and buddhists in for a discussion and asked them if they wanted to build a temple ; temples that were denied approval for decades by the BN government. Nik Aziz approved the building of the temples on the spot. Today we have very large and even prominent buddhists and hindu temple in kelantan.

  14. kittykat46 says:

    The BN regime often points to the temples and churches around the country as proof of their “religious tolerance”.

    What many people don’t realise is that if you tried to get approval to build a non-Muslim place of worship TODAY – under the Barisan Nasional created rules – TOUGH LUCK.

    In fact of most the existing non-Muslim religious buildings were built more than 50 years ago under British rule, when there were absolutely no restrictions getting them build.

  15. whispering9 says:

    Hahahahaha…wonder when MCA will come up with ‘relocation of temples’ plan for places of worship. Wonder how such plan will go down with the community when they try to explain that one faithful worshipper is not as important as a thousand in the eyes of god.

  16. bamboo river says:

    Ha,ha,ha, W9 I prefer to relocate or dispose useless lapdogs than to relocate the temples.

    You can relocate a person but you can’t relocate religion.🙂

  17. DanielYKL says:

    Whoever that person who approved of the project must be a real idiot! What good is a temple without religious activities. Might as well turn it into a club house.

  18. chrishellz says:

    LOL! That is hilarious! Malaysia, berbilang bangsa and kaum lives in harmony?… ahaha!!!

  19. hieuhotrung says:

    Oh! my God

  20. We ought to worry about our freedoms being slowly taken away from us here
    in America. That bunch we have in both houses of Congress are dangerous.
    I want the government to leave me alone, and quit trying to buy our votes with our own tax money! All of you need to be voted out and live under the ignorant laws that you all pass! All I want is what I worked for , for 20 years,
    and to be left alone!

  21. lchxian says:

    Dear Susan the blogger,

    I find it hard to believe about Pu Zhao Temple not being able to have religious activity. Could you please point out the source of your information? I did a google search on Pu Zhao Temple, but have no relevant return on this story.

    Secondly, the picture used in the poster is probably not taken in Malaysia, it looks like one of the pictures taken during Burma Monk Protest 2007. The choice of words are very much politically motivated. It is difficult to believe that a Buddhist Activist campaigning for the good of Pu Zhao Temple will use these words. Fire (Anger) is not a quality of the Buddha.

    http://chenghiang.wordpress.com

  22. Y C Chai says:

    lchxian,
    The site is located at the right hand side of the road leading to Kluang if travel from Batu Pahat. It’s just a couple of km from either the Air Hitam Toll or Kluang town. However, it is not so noticeable because it’s about 50m or so away from the road and only part of the structures (to be precise only few pillars ) can be seen. [All these description are base on my observation many years back ].
    tan
    As this is a serious matter concern Buddhism, i wish no words of down grading and disrespectful to the religion to be uttered although i don’t expect everyone to practice “holier than thou” attitude. Sorry that i have to point out this. May you be well and happy always!

  23. lchxian says:

    Thanks for pointing out the physical site of the temple.🙂
    Could anyone point out the source of this story?

    Allow me to rephrase my second point. I think the poster above was made by someone with political motive. I don’t think it is done by Buddhist Activist who are trying to get approval for Pu Zhao temple (assuming the stories of Pu Zhao not allowed to have Buddha image and hold Buddhist activities are true).

  24. sloone says:

    Lchxian;
    The information and poster were sent to me by people who are involved in the temple issue. Most posters during elections definitely have a political motive or message. And I see nothing wrong in it. Yes, it may not be done by the Buddhist monks themselves but could be by the followers of the temple.

    The question to ask is: is it true that the council has done this thing? And if yes, then what kind of temple it would be – without religious activities and no Buddha statues.

    Have a nice day.

  25. judasnoose says:

    It would be interesting to see meditation classes conducted with the promise that they taught 100% atheistic Buddhism, purely as a philosophy and not as a religion.

    Or they could just teach Kung Fu.

  26. lchxian says:

    Sorry, my apology. I finally found a report on YBAM (Young Buddhist Association Malaysia) on this issue. This is really really too difficult for me to believe. Maybe I have been away from Malaysia for too long.

    A Buddhist temple, not allowed to have religious activities, not to have Buddha image in the garden. Not sure what was the logic behind these restrictions by the local council.

    For those of you who read Chinese, this is the YBAM report on this issue.
    http://www.ybam.org.my/cms/e/action/ShowInfo/?classid=169&id=104

    http://chenghiang.wordpress.com/

  27. Dr. Lowrey says:

    So those who pretend to represent the interests of the people – in government – are also pretending to support religion – by promoting the appearance of religion but denying the substance thereof.

    In Nature, both weakness and corruption each in their own way represent a lack of integrity that causes natural forces to eventually and at times tumultuously bring the collapse of both.

    The balance of nature includes as much fury as calm.

    While we may seek the calmness, bursts of fury are inevitable if we are to be balanced and in harmony with cosmic or universal truth.

    Anger is a costly, but sometimes essential expression.

    It seems strange that it is the weak who are called to stand against and undermine corruption.

    No one else will do it.

    No one else feels the sting of evil enough to drive them to it.

    Are we simply grease for the wheels of corruption?

    Can we do more than talk?

    Can we do more than dance?

    Or do we do our job, pay our tax and stay in our box?

  28. That’s just not right? And the government does not care the least about all the worldwide protest!

  29. […] 3, 2008 at 6:17 am · Filed under Personal and tagged: blog, malaysia I ran across an old post regarding an issue with a construction of a training center at a chinese temple in Kluang called […]

  30. Lai Shu Zhan says:

    If there is no activities, what shall the monks and laymen will be doing by then? If we can’t run the activities, why there is a need for a temple? I believe that the one who sees the teachings can see the Buddha. A religion to practise: This is a religion for one to come and practise but not just to come and believe… sadhu! sadhu! sadhu!

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