I ask, “Is the earth alone?”
Don’t you have to go to the earthworm,
busy making earth fertile, and ask before taking any important decision!
Who knows if the ants are more concerned about the earths future than you.
I am worth an earthworm.
For you I am only an ant to be crushed.
My human rights puny before your demon rights.

I may be insignificant come on.
Agreed.
Yet my claim over the earth is no way less than yours.

BY Gyanendrapati, poet & chair
People’s Vigilance Committee on Human Rights, India.

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  1. monsterball says:

    UMNO hero worship Mahathir…calling him……
    ‘Father of Modernization”
    Nazri said he is…..
    “Father of Racism”
    Malaysians call him….
    “Father of Corruptions”
    And I call Mahathir…..
    “Father Of All Evils.
    With that…how to talk human rights in Malaysia?
    How to talk human rights.with Najib’s “IMalaysia” “People First. Performance Now” while MACC chief said Teoh Beng Hock’s death….small matter and he dare not take actions?
    What type of “People First. Performance Now” is he talking about?
    It shows Najib have no power nor leadership by example….not forgetting Mongolian model death hanging over his shoulders…dare not arrest Bala.who said so much to damage him…his wife and brother.
    What kind of a PM we have in Malaysia?
    I tell you…he is guilty and keep playing the stupid nice guy image…that makes him even a bigger clown than Mahathir.
    Under this circumstances in MALAYSIA…we need to vote UMNO out…than talk human rights after that.
    Right now ..millions of humans in Malaysia….need not be tortured…to suffer for no reasons.
    Malaysia needs freedom fighters…and hope all Human Rights people support Malaysians..to free Malaysia from a gang of robbers and thieves.

  2. Ho Ho Ho says:

    Ho Ho Ho :D ‘we are the world and we are the children’ :D Ho Ho Ho

  3. fatherofevil says:

    Mahathir the “Father Of Evil” (FOE) is a Ahmad Said backer:

    Dare Gerakan resist Ahmad Ismail? Guess what? UMNO has reinstated him after serving less than a third of a ‘bogus’ suspension. He is unrepentant and unperturbed. He has called for Gerakan leaders blood. What can senior Lim or his junior do?
    http://khookaypeng.blogspot.com/2009/12/foul-word-dirty-dozen.html

  4. bangkainajib says:

    How appropriate…… In S. Thailand, Najib was wearing a shirt the front of which looked as if it had been splattered with blood.

  5. bangkainajib says:

    When he became PM, Najib Razak said he didn’t want his picture or those of his ministers splashed on billboards.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Az7aX_dORNk/SxfxuXCIPHI/AAAAAAAAEaM/rMHFhTEl8Wg/s1600-h/Najib+on+Billboard.jpg

    The only good thing is Najib is using Nazri to whack mahathir, and mahathir is using Ahmad Said to whack Najib and Nazri. Mampus umno.

  6. tembolok says:

    For the first time in a long while now, the country cannot blame Anwar Ibrahim’s machination for a regime change as the sole cause of political, social, and economic instability in Malaysia. This time, Umno is the culprit.
    http://hornbillunleashed.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/5188/

  7. kalikavandan says:

    “For the first time in a long while now, the country cannot blame Anwar Ibrahim’s machination for a regime change as the sole cause of political, social, and economic instability in Malaysia. This time, Umno is the culprit.”

    Imagine that,…. and all these ahbengkias, lantoois, butterflies go around warning commentors. Ahbengkia wanted to make police reports and now he got no job even.

  8. J.Jun says:

    Which right do you claim? For whom?

  9. kahkahkahkah says:

    “Imagine that,…. and all these ahbengkias, lantoois, butterflies go around warning commentors.”…….kalikavandan

    “Which right do you claim? For whom?”………J.Jun

  10. kahkahkahkah says:

    “Which right do you claim? For whom?”………J.Jun

    Poor Ahmad Said got not enough rights. IGP oso needs more rights. AG rights have been damaged so severely one hardly hears of him these days.

  11. andre_jonatan says:

    If Najib can support autonomy for s.thailand and filipins , then some areas in malaysia should also be given autonomy.

  12. 1ToiletMalaysia says:

    Malaysian cabbies worse problem than dirty toilets: minister

    A top minister slammed Malaysia’s taxi drivers Wednesday, saying they were more of a problem for the tourism industry than the nation’s notoriously filthy toilets.

    A top minister slammed Malaysia’s taxi drivers Wednesday, saying they were more of a problem for the tourism industry than the nation’s notoriously filthy toilets.

    “The complaints by tourists about the taxi drivers’ behaviour are more than toilets now, so in that context the taxi drivers are worse than dirty toilets,” cabinet minister Nazri Aziz said.
    ______________________________________________

    After 50 years they cannot even maintain toilets.

  13. andre_jonatan says:

    So, all msians were happy with Najib`s economy stimulus eh? Saved your economy huh?
    Now ENJOY this also ,
    “PUTRAJAYA: Tarif elektrik baru mungkin diperkenalkan Januari tahun depan sekiranya ia diluluskan Kabinet, kata Menteri Tenaga, Teknologi Hijau dan Air Datuk Seri Peter Chin Fah Kui.”

  14. wits0 says:

    “Imagine that,…. and all these ahbengkias, lantoois, butterflies go around warning commentors.”…….kalikavandan

    All the rights to fowl language are belong to them and their side! The natives get more riled.

  15. jubal says:

    MACC Ahmad Saidon Teoh beng Hock`s murder: “Teoh Beng Hock’s case is nothing. It’s a very small case.”

    Australian magistrate Simon Smart: “this material is repugnant and abhorrent – any decent minded person would be so affected by it”
    on Pilot Ahmad Said Jr. conviction for porn

    Ahmad Said upon his son`s conviction for “repugnant and abhorrent” material: “… something that you will find on most men’s hand phones.”

    Tay Tian Yan’s sarcastic article “Thanks to Ahmad Said’s family”:
    We really have to thank the family of Malaysia Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) chief commissioner Datuk Seri Ahmad Said Hamdan because, finally, they have made him retire early.

  16. veryupset says:

    And….. they say Pakatan is breaking up!!!!!
    Look at them lah…!!! Throwing dung at each other also……

    PM also keeping silent & letting them doing it. Sigh…………………..
    What a country we live in..

    With all the accusations thrown at him…., he still not bothered coz he knows he & gangs are “untouchable”…!!

    Such high local brain drain & he wants foreign investors to invest here.
    “NOT” even bothered what the rakyat’s greivences are about.
    Investment for cronies only…!

    Yep..! Malaysia sure boleh…!!!!

  17. bee says:

    “Yet my claim over the earth is no way less than yours”…this needs clarification.
    There are many realms of existences in this cosmos but the 3 physical realms we can relate are plant, animal and human realms. What is the major difference between a human and an animal? – an animal has the mentality of ‘fight’ or ‘flight’ while a human has the ability to differenciate what is right or wrong, althought many humans act like an animal (like a rapist) who are unable to know what is right or wrong. Human rights? – even murderer can be the leader of a country and greedy politicians, their actions are worse than animals.

  18. kancilandak says:

    How appropriate… -bangkainajib

    That is the curse.. the symbol of bloodlust… that follows him everwhere he goes… he started in bloodlust… continues in bloodlust… we can just pray his term does not end in bloodlust.

  19. joshua says:

    Though you are a lowly worm, O Jacob, don’t be afraid, people of Israel, for I will help you. I am the LORD, your Redeemer. I am the Holy One of Israel.’

    Jacob worse than earthworm, a lowly worm yet the nation Israel survives until today!

  20. Menyalak-er says:

    Well done Pico, you are in the ‘groove’, so to spesk.
    In this country there many separate meanings of ‘human rights':
    * Absolute rights of the Tuans.
    * Lesser rights of the Sons of the Soil, provided the are ‘politically correct’. To gain such rights screaming ‘ketuanan’ helps.
    * Rights associated with $. which sometimes supercede even the rights of the Tuans, becuz those who have, can buy those rights.
    * Rights of the Lesser Sons, who are not politically correct, which means that they litearlly eat their Soil.
    * Rights of the ‘slavish’ Pendatangs – which are actually limited to support, nuture, upkeep and helping piracy of the Tuans.
    * Rights of the ‘politically incorrect’ Pendatangs, who are limited to i.c’s, passports and paying taxes. These are subjected to the vagaries of both Law enforcement and criminals.
    * The “No Rights” of the segments who are the poor, disenfranchised, poor and marginalized of all ‘races’…. and many other subdivisions.

    But can one consider oneself ‘feliticious’ if one was an annelid (in accordance to Gyanedrapati poem)?
    Of course, the Niamatodes seem to think so, especially when they consider us: Earthworms. In evolution, we are supposedly on a ‘higher chain of things’ as we can’t be parasites, but can definitely “stir the Soil”.
    Niamatodes can only remain as saprophytes and parasites.

  21. wits0 says:

    “he started in bloodlust… continues in bloodlust…” – kancil.

    His dad was also a bloodlust suspect. This was not investigated.

    In Bolehland, a thing can be declared supreme even when it is worth less – far less than attributed. A clearly seditious noose paper can also be praised sky high by him.

  22. davis says:

    “My human rights or yours” I would prefer it to be “our human rights” As children of God, we should treat each other as members of a big family. When we think in term of “my right” or “your right”, we are divided and will be thinking of oneself only…..”common humanity requires that one man should feel another man to be akin to him”…Marcus Tullis Cicero

  23. monsterball says:

    What human rights in Malaysia?
    More protesters arrested under Najib…said Suara Rakyat Malaysia {Suaram}
    Bunkum “People First. Performance Now” slogan by a killer on the loose.

  24. wits0 says:

    “As children of God..”

    Unfortunately ‘siblings rivalry’ destroyed this idea long time ago, People cannot agree on the Concept of God. Always, at the bottom line there is this assertion, “My God is greater than your God”, thing. Of course they have sorta rephrased that as, “My worship is more acceptable than yours, because my scriptures truer”.

  25. Ho Ho Ho says:

    Ho Ho Ho :D We are all born free and equal and always do remember to think of others livings things or creature as well, they have life and right to live in this planet EARTH like all of us too ;) Ho Ho Ho

  26. davis says:

    It is sad that men make use of the name of God to advance their own interest. All religions teach Brotherhood of Man. However men has not be able to accept that Brotherhood.

  27. monsterball says:

    With UMNO promoting race and religion politics….all brotherhoods they show are just lips services…and hypocritical.
    There is clear double standards applied….and such people do not really love and respect God.
    More so….when you trace all the billions tax payers money they stolen….that UMNO loves money more than God.
    We all love money too..as we need money to survive and live according to our earning powers.
    Th gang of robbers …spearheaded by Mahathir…live far more richer than Royalties…showing off…traveling all over the world…spending like Royalties…with no shame at all.
    Satanic UMNO politicians govern the country…and as such….God and Brotherhood of Man..should be sidelined…and all Malaysians must vote UMNO out…and than…we can talk Brotherhood of Man and God….sincerely to each other …that should not be a problem at all.
    It starts with a Malaysian Malaysia…and all will become realities in life…..living with dignity and behave like noble human beings.
    Right now…Malaysia is governed by a band of thieves and robbers….and Brotherhood of Man and God…are being sub-pressed by UMNO.

  28. Crankshaft says:

    I think in Malaysia, we dispensed with human rights a long time ago.

  29. storm62 says:

    see the real melayu umno’s culture in Malaysia.

    a disgrace to all melayu, muslims and Malaysians. i hope they are NOT Muslims or claim to be umat Islam…..sheer disgrace!

    http://darisungaiderhaka.blogspot.com/2009/12/kurang-ajar-gambar-pemimpin-dap.html

    Human rights or evil rights?

  30. King Kong says:

    Grrrrrrrrr King Kong is full of LOVE and more loving than that bast*rd Najib’s Grrrrrrrrr
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Beau-ti-ful.jpg
    http://freemalaysiatoday.com/english/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/NajibRazakAltantuya4401.jpg
    Majority Malaysians are good peoples and only a few bunch are bad and evils peoples are from BN and especially from UMNO itself. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    This UMNO peoples are more terrible than a monkey and they are animal inside out. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2F9nTcAJr7c/Sx9r7fm/GiI/AAAAAAAALvU/dMpDE2rnBIQ/s1600-h/tear-koh-photo.jpg
    Grrrrrrr and to be fair to all Grrrrrrr this are the baddies that do not understand what is human right is all about and use their position and power against one another and robs all Malaysians.They are no different than animals itself. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    http://malaysiafree2008.blogspot.com/
    KING KONG will support all of you good and brave FREEDOM FIGHTER Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  31. Ho Ho Ho says:

    Ho Ho Ho :D King Kong my favourite movie star ;) Ho Ho Ho

    But this one isn’t :x
    KTK-tode says Ahmad Ismail-tode decision insignificant !!! :x
    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/46101-koh-says-ahmad-ismail-decision-insignificant

    Ho Ho Ho this chicken little gelakan is finish and now 0.0000000 vote :x Ho Ho Ho
    Gelakan ‘kan kan’ is unimportant and insignificant to all of us now and they are history or finish Ho Ho Ho :D 8) :x

  32. kancilandak says:

    kurang ajar haram jadah umno kerbaus have a culturally inherited something about their pri*ks… they think it some sort of magic wand… they pee wherever they like… and sodom whoever they want. Shameless apes… your end is near.
    We’ll show them GE13 that our magic wands are in our votes.

  33. kancilandak says:

    surprising… niamahtodes not around.

  34. monsterball says:

    King Kong is back!
    Kopitiam fellas love him too.

  35. Ho Ho Ho says:

    Ho Ho Ho :x this tee-tode and utusan-SHIT gang are really racist :x Ho Ho Ho
    8) ‘Keling’ blood: ‘Utusan has immunity’ and this naji$-tode p?m just keep numb and let Utusan-tode publish all their racist SHIT nonsense 8) Ho Ho Ho :x
    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/119590

  36. Sunshine says:

    Rights are not something that we claimed as ownership. Perhaps this is why there is so much acrimony and discord over whose right is what. Rights, such as human rights, are bestowals to be used and enjoyed and not as a possession. We can never really possess our rights but we can give it away – much like love, compassion and consideration. Such gifts multiply whenever it is respected and honoured. Such gifts can not be kept but can only have meaning and value when it is shared. One can never really assert such rights as belonging to oneself and as such we can never really demand it. However we do have the power and the capacity to share it the next time we are confronted with others that we may not like or even despise. How we deal with our fellow humans under trying and difficult circumstances determine how much we ourselves have benefited from such gifts of nature.

    We do not possess this gifts but we do have the power to bestow it on others. We are no less a child of the universe and our being is nothing but a microcosm of the wider universe. The deep ecology of mother nature ensures that a small vibration in one of the corners of a web of existence will ripple throughout the web.

    Create a tiny ripple in your corner and it will be felt throughout eternity.

  37. monsterball says:

    Here comes sunshine…talking like a true UMNO good student….teaching kopitiam fellas what is right or wrong on human rights.
    We are not interested in lectures on human rights..by one who supports..an inhumane government.
    Sunshine can stuff all his logics into his ass hole.
    We want her/him to declare….FOR or AGAINST…then we talk later.
    You know…you must declare you are a Muslim… to enter Mecca city.
    So those maggots and worms…declare yourselves… then we may listen and discuss.

  38. davis says:

    Sunshine, you forget to mention that right is a thing that you may have to fight for and even die for. The many basic human rights that have been taken away by the BN government have to be regained with a fight. The people, whose rights were taken away or robbed, have only one weapon, their vote. Believe me, they are going to use it in the GE 13th.

  39. wits0 says:

    The people’s rights were taken away or robbed through foul pretext of ‘national security’ and other BS threats whereas the real threats have been from the ruling racist gomen itself. Most ASEAN countries oppresses their own people, harping on well worn and useless, “Sovereignty and Integrity”.

    LKY is a darn old buffoon but he’s at least right on
    “ketuanan melayu” being a dirty word.

    http://www.filedropper.com/btn1

  40. Ho Ho Ho says:

    Ho Ho Ho :D BTN useless and a waste of our M’sians money and racist SHIT :x Ho Ho Ho :D Wow, so many racists nowadays! Ho Ho Ho because they are not a good leaders :x Ho Ho Ho
    http://themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/opinion/jameschin/46161-wow-so-many-racists-nowadays

  41. Sunshine says:

    “monster ding-dong and his verbal diarrhoea– deleted”

    You are barking up the wrong tree. While you are doing it please avoid pee-ing on the lawn.

    You become more a liability to the cause of PR than an asset. Have a good look in the mirror and see if you are helping any.

  42. Sunshine says:

    “Rights have to be fought for ” – Davis

    Rights find expressions in a legal form, in its practice, in the social structures and more importantly in our basic acceptance of others – even those that we have yet to understand. It may be unreasonable but it is hardly irrational. Reasons are not of highest virtues and often it is used to befool and manipulate others. Height of unreason is not the absence of reason but in the abuse of reasons for self-serving purposes.

    The expressions of rights should not be confused with the presence of such rights in nature. Such rights exist not to serve the interests of the self or of any individual but to serve the greater good of society. A community or society can only thrive and prosper when the people within the community align their life with these social imperatives. Those that shout the loudest for such rights may not even understand or appreciate the value of such rights to the wider community. As such many may even believe that such rights have to be fought using fair or foul means. The rights that we fought for is often a result of taking it away from others – including the right to life of others. Isn’t such assault on our basic sensibility to assert our rights an affront to all that is humane and right ?

    Create virtuous cycles within our hearts and minds and within the social mileu we move in and in time to come it will create a sea-change that will bring back harmony to the society.

  43. Menyalak-er says:

    Virtuos cycles or circles?
    Honore de Balsacz said this: “Equality may perhaps be a right, but no power on earth can turn it into a fact.”
    I happen to believe him.

  44. chacko says:

    So now we see the light, We gonna stand up for our rights!

  45. chacko says:

    You can fool some people sometimes, But you can’t fool all the people all the time.
    So now we see the light, We gonna stand up for our rights!

    -Bob Marley

  46. wits0 says:

    “Those that shout the loudest for such rights may not even understand or appreciate the value of such rights to the wider community.” – Sunshine.

    They(umnoputras) refuse to understand, preferring to promote fascist unity. So, day in and day out, they harp on partisan unity and promote that never ending tribal paranoia just so as to derive political power from that Arabesque obsession and proclivity over “community”.

    Finally, someone wrote a factual piece about the chinese community here. something which many of us have always known:
    http://fwd4.me/85K

    q/ “So, except for their supposed cultural affinity, how does a Chinese community threaten any one when there is no community per se?” u/q

    Don’t listen to the MCA(Most Contemptible A**holes).

  47. Sunshine says:

    “They(umnoputras) refuse to understand, preferring to promote fascist unity. So, day in and day out, they harp on partisan unity and promote that never ending tribal paranoia just so as to derive political power from that Arabesque obsession and proclivity over “community”.” – wits0

    Tribalism is a human psychological support, mostly needed by those who are internally insecure. It is a way for the mind to find comfort. Anything outside that comfort zone became an object of suspicion, often contempt and when taken to extreme by selfish provocateurs , hatred.

    Do we then stand up for our rights by seeking what is most comfortable and emotionally satisfying found in a tribal arrangement or do we expand our own consciousness to reach out the residence of the other tribes and demonstrate to them a better way to live ? It may take a few generations but considering the alternatives this is the only sane option. Looking at the history of mankind it would seemed that anyone who had an expanded consciousness will often find themselves impaled on a stake or burned. As such there cannot be a drastic sea-change but a gradual transformation through small acts of kindness and consideration from the heart and then magnify and expand on those.

    Let us begin with ourselves first.

  48. Sunshine says:

    “Virtuos cycles or circles?” Menyalak-er

    A circle is one – it begins and it ends while cycles continue on and on.

    “Honore de Balsacz said this: “Equality may perhaps be a right, but no power on earth can turn it into a fact.”
    I happen to believe him.”

    There can never be true equality. Once I was asked if I treated my wife as an equal. I replied that I don’t. Some day I treat her better than what she deserves and on other days she treated me with similar abundance. The best part of this is that I don’t have to keep score and the more I give the more I will receive.

    Each of us are made differently. What we lose out today may indeed be the basis for far greater gain later on. Nature is always fair. The chinese and indians in malaysia may be discriminated against but the community itself had gained great resilience, fortitude and survival skills than others. If we measure equality using some fixed means than we are not looking at life with the correct view. We have to look at life in its totality.

    Is discriminatory policies right ? It seemed the cows have just left the gate ;-)

  49. wits0 says:

    “If we measure equality using some fixed means than we are not looking at life with the correct view. We have to look at life in its totality.” – Sunshine.

    There is no justification for any State to promote apartheid style policies the way which is so obvious here. I think you do not possess a sound overview. Your worldview is more skewed towards philosophizing than the needs dictated by reality and common uderstanding.

  50. whispering9 says:

    “A circle is one – it begins and it ends while cycles continue on and on.”

    Whoa! That was good. Someone who understood the imperfection that this world is meant to be and how to utilize it in perfection. Bravo. Good illustration on the butterfly effect.

    wits0….I am not justifying the continuing existent of the current apartheid regime on philosophical terms. Just that sometimes, in our quest to have perfection, we balance the life equation and the regime continue in cycles. The regime will only end after it achieves perfection in her pride and becomes a cycle. All good things and bad things will eventually end. That is the same. Unless someone try to introduce ‘imperfection’ and balance the equation, BN-UMNO is caught in a cycle now….solely ‘cos they thot they were perfect for Malaysia.

  51. stupidahbengkia says:

    cycles and circles are of no consequence. Bardo Thodol is more useful

  52. wits0 says:

    “‘cos they thot they were perfect for Malaysia.” – W9.

    They thot also that they have done a great service…and therefore being a Mr 10% rentseeker, e.g., is not a sin but a just (self) reward!

    I know everything in Nature is Cyclical PLUS the fact that all things(seasons and human events) are bound by Karma but this never meant that the right effort is unnecessary. What I (and others)see is a great lack of that from the so-called leadership of the lazy and bourgeois elites with their entitlement complex screwing up everything arrogantly.

  53. whispering9 says:

    Sorry….jet lag. Should be……

    The regime will only end after it achieves perfection in her pride and becomes a cycle circle.

    BN-UMNO is caught in a cycle circle now.

  54. stupidahbengkia says:

    Monkey got cycle…………..

    MALACCA, Dec 14 — Umno will launch a mammoth “Umno the People’ Champion” campaign next month to win the hearts of Malay voters, said Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin.
    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/46393-umno-to-launch-peoples-champion-campaign

  55. stupidahbengkia says:

    With cycle monkey will go round and round in circles

  56. wits0 says:

    Yes W9, ultimately Bardo Thodol is everyone’s day of reckoning whatever his Persuasion, Faith of present Understanding.
    http://www.iol.ie/~taeger/bardotea/bardotea.html
    ————————————————————————-
    But until then, we create our own present Reality and any philosophy of passiveness can be self insincerity and disingenuous.

  57. whispering9 says:

    …wits0, there is an anime title ‘D.GrayMan’. In the story, was a historian whose job was only to observe & record the time line and events without interferences. But even he got involved eventually, when being a passive by-stander was not an option anymore. BN-UMNO actually traps herself into a circle when TDM disallowed dissents and opinions; without allowing ‘imperfection’ to take their rightful place. They are now perfectly without any quilt or guise. A circle has a beginning and an ending. A good historical illustration.

  58. wits0 says:

    W9, TDM and umno broke the Golden Rule when they subscribe to the practice of, “Ends justifying the Means”. Venality and Ego combination.

  59. Menyalak-er says:

    Hahaha.., guys the ‘circle’ is closing and the sun is setting. Let’s start another cycle, and expect it to be circular – big or small, who is to say? The last one lasted 52 years. We don’t need Chronos ‘time’, now but we certainly need a Kairos moment like on 03/08.

  60. wits0 says:

    Confirmed: ‘BTN is racist, now release all videos’
    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/119842
    q/
    “It is now official that BTN courses were racist as well as religiously inclined. Since Umno has released videos of Anwar, why not release videos of say Najib Razak, Muhyiddin Yassin, Khairy Jamaluddin, etc, to see if they less or more racist in their lectures/speeches. Why the selective release of the videos?” u/q.

  61. bojo says:

    These ba*tards do it every day openly:
    ‘No race deserves Utusan’s contempt’
    http://malaysiakini.com/news/119843

  62. bojo says:

    UMNO bullshi* economics carries on as banana saves pink lips:

    Najib’s budget passed by a narrow 66-63 vote

    By G Manimaran
    Bahasa Malaysia Editor

    KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 15 — Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s debut Budget 2010 was nearly scuttled by the Pakatan Rakyat late last night when it barely got through by a 66-63 vote margin at the third reading in the Dewan Rakyat.

    Najib and Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat saved Barisan Nasional the blushes when they turned up to tilt support to the ruling coalition which lost its customary two-third parliamentary majority in Election 2008.
    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/46533-najibs-budget-passed-by-a-narrow-66-63-vote

  63. gotohell says:

    December 14, 2009

    Manohara Will Not Return to Malaysia Despite Court Order, Daisy Declares

    The mother of Manohara Odelia Pinot has said her daughter will not be returning to her royal Malaysian husband, affirming that she will not comply with an Islamic court ruling ordering Manohara’s return because she fears for her daughter’s safety.

    “We are disappointed with the court order, which we consider is unfair to our family,” Daisy Fajarina told The Malay Mail on Monday, further declaring, “we will not pay the so-called 1.1 million ringgit [$320,000] debt.”
    http://thejakartaglobe.com/home/manohara-will-not-return-to-malaysia-despite-court-order-daisy-declares/347343

  64. wits0 says:

    http://malaysiakini.com/letters/119656
    Lt Col (Rtd) Mohd Idris Hassan:
    “I refer to the Malaysiakini report Of noisy Indians and ‘keling’ blood: Utusan strikes again.

    The attacking of fellow Malaysians by the mainstream media Utusan Malaysia because of their race is unwarranted and most uncalled for. I remember in the late 40s when I was a little boy living in my hometown of Raub, Pahang.

    I used to pass road gangs of Tamil labourers toiling in the midday’s scorching sun from dawn till dusk. Armed with only picks and shovels, they would be hacking at solid rocks to carve out roads along the mountain side………”
    —————————————————————————–
    I was about 5 in the early fifties and was living in the well known Burmah Road, Penang and fif witnessed how the Indian labourer gang repaired and retarred the road. Poorly clad and with wicker baskets they preceeded the big fiery (wood burning)road roller, spreading the gravel, stones and hot tar under the hot sun. It was quite a loud and dramatic experience. By comparision, modern road building today is a breeze!

    I have no reason whatsover to doubt what Lt Col (Rtd) Mohd Idris Hassan wrote above.

    And btw, Two Indian brigades were practically annhilated at Slim River. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Slim_River

  65. bangkalipoeylukiaka says:

    How to rectify the wrong doings?

    Some people in the evil ruling elites of AemNoo never change and they never want to change.

    Just look at MooYeeDeen’s words and Mamak Kutty and sons on the BTN issue.

    Change? Reformin AemNoo? My foot.

    Ask them to F%$# themselves.

  66. kittykat46 says:

    “Poorly clad and with wicker baskets they preceeded the big fiery (wood burning)road roller, spreading the gravel, stones and hot tar under the hot sun” – wits0.

    Wow, that must be one of the real Steam Rollers – probably originally burning coal, but converted to burn local wood. Long after diesel engines took over, the name “steam roller” was still used for these road rollers.

    Even in the 1970’s in rural Negeri Sembilan, the Indian labourers were still toiling on road repair gangs. I’m glad road maintenance has become so mechanised now, the old method was really dehumanising work.
    BTW, nowadays the non-mechanised bits, like touching up odd corners and areas not covered by the machines are mostly carried out by Bangladeshis. Still dependent on “Sub-Continent” labour.

  67. wits0 says:

    “Wow, that must be one of the real Steam Rollers”
    Like a noisy fire breathing dragon to a child.

    There were 2 or 3 major “monsters” involved. The other was a distinctively black tar furnace on wheels which melts the tar and a mixer(mortar styled? – can’t remember) to mix the small granite stones and pebbles with the tar. These were still in a somewhat semi sticky hot state when manually thrown on to the road and raked by hand ahead of the steam roller. T’was a memorable drama.

  68. wits0 says:

    Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said some bloggers, unlike local journalists, do not adhere to the rules and ethics of journalism in their bid to garner popularity.
    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/119863
    ——————————————————————————-
    What do you call a moron and hypocrite combo? Morocrite?

  69. Ho Ho Ho says:

    Ho Ho Ho ;) :x this lembu moo hisabmudin is the best actor inside out and actually hold back and hiding his racist real self and his ‘ho li’ tail inside his butt :D Ho Ho Ho

  70. kittykat46 says:

    “local journalists, adhere to the rules and ethics of journalism ” – Keris Hisham

    ROTFL. OK, I’ll give the poor working journalists some benefit of the doubt, and go after their editors. Local MSM break the rules and ethics of journalism every day, all over the newspapers.

    They trash PKR, DAP, PAS , Anwar Ibrahim, Lim Kit Siang every day, without attempting any right of reply.

    They misrepresent numbers – all the MSMs reported the 10th November 2007 Bersih rally “only” had 6,000 participants kah, kah , kah.
    The list goes on and on….the most unethical bunch of stiffs in the country….after Ah Longs, or before Ah Longs ??

  71. Ho Ho Ho says:

    Ho Ho Ho :D go eat SHIT hisapmudin-tode and gore by bull until your ass ass bust out :D Ho Ho Ho

  72. wits0 says:

    “They trash PKR, DAP, PAS , Anwar Ibrahim, Lim Kit Siang every day, without attempting any right of reply. ” – KK46.

    Worse than ordinary trashing and inventing lies, the malay media MSM of bumno spews forth hatred with ever increasing intensity at other ethnic groups as well. And that cowhead morocrite has that arrogance to speak through his own ass these absolutely depraved platitude-like nonsense.

  73. rebena says:

    we know the perangai of these utusan m … extremelist , racist..
    idolized BTN.. Rakyat & PR representatives going to pluck out this type of budak nakal.

  74. linzi44 says:

    On 15th December, two police photographers testified.

    The first photographer said in evidence that he was asked to go to the forensics department of the Kuala Lumpur Hospital to take postmortem photos. In all, he took 9 shots. He admitted that none of the shots he took showed the chest area or details of other parts of the body of the deceased such as the hands, legs or face before the first post mortem.

    The second police photographer confirmed that, in all, he took 17 photographs of the body of the deceased at the time of the second post mortem at Universiti Hospital. Again none of the 17 photographs showed details of the external anatomy before the dissection, specifically the chest and the head.

    The arresting officer was supposed to be in court to render his testimony. He was not. The DPP assigned to assist the coroner wanted to call other witnesses.

    Visvanathan objected, on the grounds that this was a crucial witness whose testimony should be taken before other witnesses were called. Visvanathan moved the court to issue a warrant of arrest to secure the attendance of this witness. The warrant was issued.
    http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2009/12/16/death-in-custody-no-1805-gunasegarans-inquest-underway/

  75. rebena says:

    Domestic Affair ministry act good to reduce our subsidy being snapsht with lion mouth by the foreigners Land Cruiser, Pajero, Harrier, Estima, truck, camry, honda, bmw, benz..etc

    the GST policy can implement , step by step, control the Percentage % .. do not dramastically hike up..

  76. wits0 says:

    “the GST policy can implement , step by step, control the Percentage % .. do not dramastically hike up..”

    There has been nothing historical to show that the BN gomen can control anything well. Nah, the GST should not be considered presently also because of the multiplying effect involved.

  77. doc says:

    To get the Bill passed, they start a backtrack of sorts………

    Malaysians to pay 4% GST from 2011
    http://freemalaysiatoday.com/english/?p=4559

  78. wits0 says:

    Noose tightens, print media fights back
    The Home Ministry has drawn up a new set of comprehensive guidelines masked as ‘self-regulation’ for an already restricted newspaper industry – but it is fighting back.
    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/120029
    —————————————————————————
    Are even they running out of fake hallelujahs and adulations for the Gomen who needs a higher dosage of daily fixes these days?

  79. hishamdie says:

    ’self-regulation’ to protect the dying BTN, Utusan, Nst blah blah

  80. wits0 says:

    “’self-regulation’ to protect the dying BTN, Utusan, Nst blah blah”

    Always the case whenever a similar situation arises – pretending to be doing the right thing but merely forever skewed in the direction of hopeless partiality, via using the deception of duplicitous euphemism.

  81. kittykat46 says:

    Ah, this is just wayang to give the impression Utusan is out of line with the government.
    Of course Utusan is way out of line, but under instruction .

  82. kahkahkahkah says:

    Muslim clerics want ban on black magic

    KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 17 — Muslim scholars want laws to ban witchcraft to help stem a tide of robberies, a national newspaper reported today.
    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/46799-muslim-clerics-want-ban-on-black-magic

  83. kahkahkahkah says:

    Next will be limau purification of Bukit Aman and all police stations.
    Mullahs are feeling the pinch of financial crisis.

  84. wits0 says:

    Even in the USA, 24% Favor National Sales Tax, 65% Oppose
    http://fwd4.me/8f9
    Note however, “…A plurality, however, like the idea of replacing the federal income tax with a national sales tax. Forty-four percent (44%) favor the idea, and 36% are opposed. ..”
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..Here in Bolehland, it’s just about “ALL TAKE!”. And no give!

  85. wits0 says:

    Economy is Crawling – Scrap the 4% GST, Idiot

    While it’s true that the current 5% to 10% service tax will be replaced with the lower 4% GST, the truth is the “comprehensive” coverage in 4% GST will sweep across every item you buy – like a tsunami

    Allright, here are more signals that the global economy will neither skyrockets nor drops like a stone into the ocean. Basically people are convince that the U.S. economy will most likely crawling for years instead of months before the worst enemy – unemployment – is over. We, and to a large extent the Americans, may be lucky that this round of recession did not suffer the same fate as the 1929 Great Depression. But this recession may have created anew economy landscape that we have to live on for decades to come – the scale-of-employment model pre-recession is history and a new employment model may have emerged.

    It’s true that layoffs have slowed, at least for now, and (hopefully) the housing problems have bottom. However jobs remain scarce and the economy will not stage a V-shape recovery anytime soon. The fact that the Federal Reserve holds the bank lending rate at zero to 0.25% speaks volume of the U.S. economy’s health. But who can blame Ben Bernanke and his boys when the figures still show consumer spending remains sluggish, hiring remains weak, wage growth is almost stagnant and the banking sector is not lending as much as Obama’s administration hoped they would.

    Low inflation also means companies couldn’t raise prices of their products simply because the once fearless American consumers are not spending as they used to be pre-recession. Of course you shouldn’t blame some of the analysts who predict that 2010 will be an explosive year for the U.S. economy when everything will be back to normal, though I would take that as a new-year wishlist instead *grin*. In actual fact you don’t really have to go very far to ascertain the health of the U.S. economy. The financial sector will tell you whether what those good-for-nothing analysts’ “wishlist” that you should be buying stocks is a good advice…..

    http://fwd4.me/8fB

  86. kahkahkahkah says:

    “To make the current scheme work, the Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry said it will deploy personnel to monitor the nearly 500 petrol stations at Malaysian borders. That means we are spending money to make sure others don’t enjoy our cheap fuel that much.”
    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/opinion/breaking-views/46873-fuelling-nonsense–the-malaysian-insider

    Why not the Ministry personnel just work as petrol pump attendants

  87. ferdyvisas says:

    As Time’s “Person of the Year,” Fed’s Bernanke Joins a Long List of Infamous Underachievers

    Not that all Time’s nominees have been heroes. Adolf Hitler got the nod – back in 1938. Joseph Stalin got it twice, in 1939 and 1942. Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran got it in 1979.

    Let’s face it, all three of those were essentially rewards for bad behavior: Hitler seized Austria and Czechoslovakia; Stalin conspired with Hitler to seize Poland; and Khomeini imprisoned 52 U.S. diplomats.

    Russian leader Vladimir Putin, another of nature’s reality show contestants, was honored by Time in 2007. A year later he invaded Georgia – perhaps he was going for a repeat win?

    Some of Time’s winners have later turned out to be losers. Mikhail Gorbachev was honored twice, in 1987 and 1989, as he presided over the collapse of the Soviet empire. Indeed, the second time he was even named the “Man of the Decade,” ignoring the achievements of former U.S. President Ronald W. Reagan, the actual winner in the Cold War contest between the two.

    U.S. Army General William Westmoreland (1965), who lost the Vietnam War, and Chiang Kai-Shek (1937) who lost China to the Communists, were other members of the eventual-losers club. Wallis Warfield Simpson (1936) was also something of a loser. Although the twice-divorced American socialite was Time’s first “Woman of the Year,” she never became Queen of England, and she had to live with the former Edward VIII for the rest of her life.

    To be fair, Time occasionally gets it right – though not very often, unless the winner is blindingly obvious. Jeffrey P. Bezos, for example, founder and chairman of Amazon.com Inc. (Nasdaq: AMZN), drew criticism when he won in 1999. However, Time was surely prescient (or lucky): In Amazon, out of all the hundreds of questionable dot-com companies, Time not only spotted a winner; it actually chose the company that would genuinely revolutionize our lives by enabling us to escape the horrors of Christmas shopping.

    Then there are the one-shot wonders – winners at the time, and totally obscure decades later.

    Pierre Laval, France’s foreign minister, was marginally famous as a Nazi collaborator shot by his countrymen after World War II, but what did he achieve in 1931 that made him Time’s wonder-boy? Beats me.

    Peter Ueberroth (1984) did a competent job running the Los Angeles Olympics, though he did rather less of one as the commissioner of Major League Baseball. But Man of the Year?

    Bernanke is thus in a long tradition. Neither a one-shot wonder nor truly evil, he fits best into the category of losers, people whose achievements seem plausible at the time, but over the long term come to be recognized as spurious, causing more harm than good. He is currently feted as the victor over the 2008 financial crash, although the Fed’s failure to adequately supervise the nation’s banks is also cited as a cause.

    However, by accepting re-nomination for a second Fed term to start next month, he will be universally blamed when the current commodities bubble bursts, as it surely will, causing yet another deep recession.

  88. wits0 says:

    ““To make the current scheme work..””

    Here a scheme is almost always a SKIM. Need to red more?

    Meantime brace yourselves for another big price increase in food next year, starting with rice and sugar.

  89. Sunshine says:

    “There is no justification for any State to promote apartheid style policies the way which is so obvious here. I think you do not possess a sound overview. Your worldview is more skewed towards philosophizing than the needs dictated by reality and common uderstanding.” – wits0

    Where in my comment had I justified for state promoted apartheid style ? Your insinuation of me being an MCA member was also way off. I have little respect for many of the MCA leaders.

    Given these 2 examples of your “reality and common understanding” how could you, in truth, claim to know the truth better than anyone else ?

    My view is simple and highly practical – examine your own hypocrisy daily and let change begin with you. Don’t think of right action when you do not or is not able to have the right view.

  90. wits0 says:

    “Don’t think of right action when you do not or is not able to have the right view.”

    How are you sure that we do not have the right view? You seem inclined to patronise us by your own insinuation that we know not about the need to change ourselves rather than try to change the world. With that you also seem to tell us that we have no social responsibilty as far as speaking out against wrongs is concerned is concerned. By your token, one might as well retreat completely from secular life and seek a cave or a hermitage somewhere! Unfortunately, these nowadays are in very short supply.

  91. 1ToiletMalaysia says:

    For him the sun has set. Katak dibawah tempurung is replaced by octopus in coconut shell

  92. Sunshine says:

    “But until then, we create our own present Reality and any philosophy of passiveness can be self insincerity and disingenuous.” – wits0

    What philosophy of passiveness ? Since you have evoked buddha’s teaching on a number of occasions let me also use similar line of thinking.

    Once Buddha knew that his sakya clan would be invaded and many of his relatives would be killed he went out on the highway where he knew the king viruddhaka would pass. During that period of time whenever an invading army saw a holy man they will retreat and will not progress. This invading army when they saw Buddha retreated. This went on for 3 times over a period of time and each time they retreated. But on the 4th time king viruddhaka invaded the sakya clan Buddha refused to intervene. Mogallana instead went to help the sakya clan by using his magical power. The outcome of such magic was just as tragic and all of the sakya clan was massacred.

    Buddha’s purpose in intervening 3 times was to demonstrate to moggalana that the forces of karma is more powerful than even Buddha and all the magical power he or moggalana could summon.

    Was Buddha practising a passive philosophy ?

    Buddha also spoke of our delusions in our thoughts, speech and actions. He was asked what was delusion and he replied that it was like a rope but we thought that it was a snake and we became frightened and even angry at this “snake”. Many would take a stick and just hammer it to death by all means – foul and fair – to avoid and to kill this snake. But it only turn out to be an innocent rope.

    By the same token we often see the snake and thought that it was an innocent rope. Particularly when this snake came in the guise of “compassionate action”, “human rights”, “justice” , “love” and whatever label that tugs at your heart string but the intention was anything but noble.

    How do you, with all your delusions, be able to distinguish between actions that is right and actions that would give rise to numerous problems for yourself and others further down the road ?

    We could see many things that are not right in malaysia and it is our duty to speak up and to even encourage others to do what is right. But before that start with yourself.

    *** For your info I had spoken out very vocally for more than a decade now on the internet even before you have all these blogs on all that is wrong in malaysia and as a result of that umno and their gangsters(such as perkasa – you know those creatures that wear pravda ;-) ) had wreaked havoc in my life.

    As I had said you know not what you are talking about and it would be good to first begin with yourself and from there start your own virtuous cycles.
    ***

  93. 1ToiletMalaysia says:

    “We could see many things that are not right in malaysia and it is our duty to speak up and to even encourage others to do what is right. But before that start with yourself. ”

    Yes you do that…..sit on your backside, look at your navel 24 hours a day, then write 24,000 books before you “speak up and to even encourage others to do what is right”.

  94. Sunshine says:

    You seem inclined to patronise us by your own insinuation that we know not about the need to change ourselves rather than try to change the world – wits0

    I did not patronise you. You only felt patronised. If you know that it is better to begin with ourselves first then what had I said that was not correct ?

    Our right to speak up against a wrong is premised upon and with the understanding that others also have similar rights to speak up for the truth as they saw it. When reasons and understanding failed we don’t go round pouring our emotional garbage on others. There must be a dignified acceptance of others point of view no matter how skewed or distorted that it is. With the kind of systematic mind manipulation that is going on I know it is difficult but we ourselves must not be caught in such a trap.

    In the sutra it was said that liberation is found in not having fixed views and that is mainly because ALL our views are false.

  95. 1ToiletMalaysia says:

    “I did not patronise you. You only felt patronised. If you know that it is better to begin with ourselves first then what had I said that was not correct ?”

    Load of shit to justify patronizing. No different from Nazri`s kok tok.

  96. 1ToiletMalaysia says:

    Might as well start printing out all the sutras in toto.

  97. 1ToiletMalaysia says:

    “There must be a dignified acceptance of others point of view no matter how skewed or distorted that it is.”

    Good, you can accept Ahmad Said`s pornography. Another Hustler in a Penthouse.

  98. wits0 says:

    “ALL our views are false.”

    I’ve replied to that but the Daemon ate that. Let it be. ;)

  99. corposcavernosa says:

    After the Tsunami, a Buddhist Monk also said that the people who dies was the same as a broom sweeping away ants so sitting and looking at the navel 24 hours a day is also a load of horse manure unless you live in a cave and someone brings you porridge everyday.

  100. wits0 says:

    “live in a cave and someone brings you porridge everyday.”

    However, one is really not independent that way either.

    Saying, “our views are false”, is like TOTALLY excusing inaction. Navel gazing foreve,r then!

    Kalama Sutra

    Kalama Sutta

    Do not believe in anything (simply)
    because you have heard it.

    Do not believe in traditions because they
    have been handed down for many generations.

    Do not believe in anything because it is
    spoken and rumoured by many.

    Do not believe in anything (simply) because
    it is found written in your religious books.

    Do not believe in anything merely on the authority
    of your teachers and elders.

    But after observation and analysis
    when you find that anything agrees with reason
    and is conductive to the good and benefit of one and all
    then accept it and live up to it.

    Buddha
    (Anguttara Nikaya Vol. 1, 188-193 P.T.S. Ed.)

    Nay, navel gazing is NOT(meant to be) forever.

  101. freedomchacha says:

    If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him.

  102. wits0 says:

    “If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him.”

    It actually comes from an old koan attributed to Zen Master Linji, (the founder of the Rinzai sect). It’s a simple one:

    “If you meet the Buddha, kill him.” — Linji

    I’m sure you already realize that it’s not being literal. The road, the killing, and even the Buddha are symbolic.

    The road is generally taken to mean the path to Enlightenment; that might be through meditation, study, prayer, or just some aspect of your way of life. Your life is your “road.” That’s fairly straightforward as far as metaphors go.

    But how do you meet the Buddha on this “road?” Imagine meeting some symbolic Buddha. Would he be a great teacher that you might actually meet and follow in the real world? Could that Buddha be you yourself, having reached Enlightenment? Or maybe you have some idealized image of perfection that equates to your concept of the Buddha or Enlightenment.

    Whatever your conception is of the Buddha, it’s WRONG! Now kill that image and keep practicing. This all has to do with the idea that reality is an impermanent illusion. If you believe that you have a correct image of what it means to be Enlightened, then you need to throw out (kill) that image and keep meditating.

    Most people have heard the first chapter of the Tao, “The Tao that can be named is not the eternal Tao.” (So if you think you see the real Tao, kill it and move on).

    http://fwd4.me/8kQ
    ……………………………………………………………………………………
    We create our own reality and that’s not meant to be spent just in navel gazing!

  103. Ho Ho Ho says:

    Ho Ho Ho :x this SHIT ‘freedomchacha@bobocaca’ should go kill himself first tonight when he is dreaming of ghost and demons chasing after him :x Ho Ho Ho

  104. freedomchacha says:

    Ho Ho Ho, my dreams are usually chasing ghosts and demons. They run from me. And you are displaying your stupidity when you shoot off your mouth without understanding what I said.
    Read wits0`s comment that follows. If you don`t know what a koan is, google it.

  105. freedomchacha says:

    Oh, and if you are lazy, you can ask monsterball nicely and he will explain it to you…colourfully.

  106. Sunshine says:

    “All our views are false”

    There was once a study on how our mind shape reality to conform to our inner reality. A group of students were given spectacles that would distort the external world. For the first few days many of the students had headaches and trouble adapting. After 3 days many of them was able to see “normally”. The mind had tremendous capability to manipulate the impressions that it get from our 6 sense organs. Whatever that is “slightly” mis-shapened in time became “corrected” to the condition that it had first learned.

    Is this reality that we perceive real ? Our reality is based mostly on “words and forms” tied to our 5 external sense organs and this is the cause for our rebirth as is expounded by Buddha in the “wheel of life” sutra.

    All our views are formed at the perception and mental formation skandha and all these are dependent upon feelings which in turn depends on our sense consciousness. If our sense consciousness – the very foundation of ALL our perceptions and views are wrong or false then surely what we view as reality is nothing more than a mind-created reality.

    When did I advocated navel gazing ? Aren’t you creating a convenient bogeyman to convince yourself and perhaps to befool others ?

  107. Sunshine says:

    Buddha
    (Anguttara Nikaya Vol. 1, 188-193 P.T.S. Ed.)

    Nay, navel gazing is NOT(meant to be) forever. – wits0

    The kalama sutta had been used often to support either not to believe in something or other but what was Buddha actually teaching. This approach to seeking truth, with our mind, is known as ehipassako. Many failed to realise that ehipassako is not a one-off deal but a continuous process of abandoning old views upon discovering that which is clearer. In proverbs it was said that “the path of the righteous one is like a like getting brighter and brighter.” And this is exactly what is ehipassako. We get to see things clearer as we abandon false and incomplete views. This can only happen when our consciousness expand.

    Look at some of the posts in respond to my comment – particularly those by 1toiletmalaysia. Should I be angry with him or am I angry with him ? Hardly. This is truth as he sees it – if he is not one of those mercenary and malicious provacateurs. Should we deny him the opportunity to grow and learn from such childish antics ? Or do you accept that such ranting is furthering the cause for truth and justice – as long as you get to “stick one in” to those that seemed to be opposing your precious position ?

    He has to mature and grow up like all of us and everyone is at different stages of maturity and see the world differently.

    And again, when had I advocated navel gazing ?

  108. malaikat says:

    “There must be a dignified acceptance of others point of view no matter how skewed or distorted that it is.”

    Good, you can accept Ahmad Said`s pornography. Another Hustler in a Penthouse.
    1ToiletMalaysia – December 18, 2009 at 8:09 am

    That is a real good one. ROTFL

  109. wits0 says:

    “ehipassako”, means, “come and see”, no? It’s been used an invitation to do meditation.

    The manner in which ‘Sunshine’ keeps harping on imperfect and incomplete views is an excuse to shun any action – something presently quite inappropriate in life. Maybe its for this reason why Buddhist countries have found themselves incapable of handling gross tyranny in their societies in recent times. Think Kampuchea and Myanmar, e.g.

    Without action, one really needs to keep his mouth open for a very very long time before a roasted chicken would fly into it!

  110. laudah says:

    Without action, one really needs to keep his mouth open for a very very long time before a roasted chicken would fly into it!…..wits0

    Lazy people belief in inaction. Sit on backside, contemplate in the sunshine, do nothing and it will be done unto you.

  111. 1ToiletMalaysia says:

    Another way of reading sunshiny comments is that when rape is imminent, lie back and enjoy it. Such is the filthified mind of these thoroughly dulled `peace piss` persons who philosophize.

    There are many of these kinds in St. Francis Xavier`s Church in Jln Gasing.

  112. wits0 says:

    ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing.’ – Edmund Burke

    If one waits till his views are perfected, he’ll be so liberated that he can’t be of much practical use to the rest of his less than perfect fellowmen. The courage of conviction has to assert itself way before then – in an imperfect world.

  113. 1ToiletMalaysia says:

    Iraq accuses Iran of seizing oil well near border
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq_iran_oil

    With so much sunshine, surely the Iraqis can afford to sit and gaze at their navels for next 100 years instead of making headlines.

  114. shambala says:

    To know is to have knowledge,
    To act is to be “god”

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